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Mr. Carney:
Good afternoon,
ladies and gentlemen.

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Welcome to the White House
for your daily briefing.

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Before I get started, I just
wanted to let you know that the

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President earlier today called
Mark Kelly to express his

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appreciation to Congresswoman
Giffords and to thank them both

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for their patriotism and
dedication to the United States.

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As the President said
yesterday in his statement,

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Congresswoman Giffords embodies
the very best of what public

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service should be.

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She's universally admired for
qualities that transcend party

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or ideology -- a
dedication to fairness,

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a willingness to listen
to different ideas,

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and a tireless commitment to the
work of perfecting our union.

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And he thanks her for
her remarkable service.

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On the call, the President
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on the call, the President
discussed the fact that Mark

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Kelly has been invited to attend
the State of the Union and sit

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in the First Lady's box, and
he very much looks forward to

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having Mr. Kelly there.

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Separately, I know that
something is happening tomorrow

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you guys might be interested in.

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I thought I'd mention that I'm
not going to get into specific

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policy proposals because I
prefer that you hear them first

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from the President when he gives
his State of the Union address

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tomorrow evening at 9:00 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.

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I will say that in a lot of ways
the State of the Union will be a

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bookend to the President's
speech in Kansas last month

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about the central mission
that we have as a country,

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and his focus as President
of building a country and an

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economy where we reward hard
work and responsibility,

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where everyone does
their fair share,

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and where everyone is held
accountable for what they do.

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The President will build off the
themes of that Kansas speech in

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the State of the Union by laying
out a blueprint for an America

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Built to Last.

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The blueprint will be supported
by four pillars: American

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manufacturing, American energy,
skills for American workers,

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and American values.

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The President looks very much
forward to the opportunity to

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speak to the American people
tomorrow evening to give them --

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to provide to the American
people his vision for where we

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need to go and how we should
get there as a country,

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working together to
build a stronger economy,

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a more secure union.

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And I hope as many Americans as
possible take advantage of the

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opportunity to hear what he
has to say tomorrow night,

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and I'm sure we'll have more
to talk about in the aftermath.

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As you know, he'll be traveling
for the three days after the

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State of the Union, where he
will be speaking specifically

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about those first three
pillars: American manufacturing,

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American energy, and skill
for American workers.

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The fourth pillar,
American values,

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is sort of a overlay
over the other three.

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With that, I'll go to
the Associated Press.

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The Press:
Thanks, Jay. A couple of
follow-ups on that topic.

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Can you give us a sense of where
the President is in the drafting

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of his speech?

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How many drafts?

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Has he been through formal
practice rounds yet in the

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Family Theater --
that kind of thing?

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Mr. Carney:
There is a draft that I
read through this morning,

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and it's not the first and it
won't be the last, I'm sure.

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The President has been working
very closely with his chief

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speechwriter and others on
his policy teams to refine it,

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get it ready for
tomorrow evening,

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and I'm sure that process will
continue today and tomorrow.

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I don't have a number
of drafts for you,

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but he thinks this is an
important speech and he

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looks forward to giving it.

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The Press:
Can you explain, given the
context of this reelection year,

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what kind of coordination
goes on with the reelection

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campaign in terms of the
themes, messaging rollout,

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that kind of thing?

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Mr. Carney:
This is a State of the
Union address that the

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President is giving.

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We obviously -- the themes
of this speech that I just

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discussed reflect not just what
the speech he gave in Kansas,

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but in many ways the principles
that President Obama has brought

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to public service since he began
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So it wouldn't take much to
understand where he's coming

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from and where he believes
the country will go.

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And I'm sure that the campaign
is focused on those same ideas,

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because they are working to
get the President reelected.

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The trips he's making, the
three-day trip he'll be making

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after the speech, the
states he'll visit,

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these are official events to
further elucidate and add detail

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to the proposals he'll
make tomorrow evening.

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And I think as I've said before,
one option -- the President

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knows that one option
for Washington,

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for Congress and for him is to
wait until the election resolves

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our differences.

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He rejects that option.

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He believes that while there
will certainly be disagreements

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and issues to debate
in the election,

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that election is
nearly 10 months away,

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and we cannot afford to waste
those 10 months on campaigning

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alone; that there are things
we can and must do to grow the

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economy, create jobs, ensure
that everyone gets a fair shot

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and that everyone is held
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that if we all play
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then we all get ahead together.

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The Press:
One last one.

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There was some news this
morning on the housing front,

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a draft agreement between
major banks and the states

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over foreclosure practices.

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And one of the upshots of this
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loans for those who are facing
foreclosure to make it easier

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for them to get by.

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I just wonder if you have any
reaction to that and if that's

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the kind of development that you
think could play into the State

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of the Union.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I don't have any
reaction to that report.

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The President, as you know, is
focused on the issue of housing.

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This has been -- had a
profound impact on our economy,

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and the President has worked
since he took office to help

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alleviate the damage that the
bursting of the housing bubble

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has caused to our economy and to
help homeowners refinance their

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homes, for example, or get
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in their homes.

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But I don't have any specific
correlation to make between that

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report and the State
of the Union address.

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Yes, Caren.

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The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

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I wanted to ask a
question about Iran.

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The administration put out a
statement a little while ago

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about the EU sanctions.

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But in reaction to
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you have one politician in Iran
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Strait of Hormuz.

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That was after the Iranians
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And I'm just wondering what your
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right now, and are you concerned
about the rhetoric heating up

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again there?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, you're citing one
report from one politician,

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as I understand it.

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What I can tell you is that the
USS Abraham Lincoln transited

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through the Strait of Hormuz
without incidence -- without

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incident, rather -- as part
of our regularly scheduled

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movements, undertaken in
accordance with our longstanding

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commitments to the security
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We are focused on
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to ensuring that Iran
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choice here is to abide by its
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regards to its nuclear program,
and if it were to make that

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decision, then to be welcomed
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community; but if it
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it has not -- to face ever
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including the ones that
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of your question.

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This process will
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so that Iran understands fully
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up and the isolation will not
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the right choice, which is
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internationally, and to
come clean, if you will,

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on their nuclear aspirations.

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The Press:
And back on the
State of the Union,

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I just wanted to ask generally
-- I know you don't want to talk

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specifics -- but what approach
is the President taking in

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general to the
State of the Union?

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Some States of the Union
are a laundry list,

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others are more thematic.

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It sounds like this
one is thematic.

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How would you describe
the general approach?

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And then also, it
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the main message is going
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but how much will he
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Mr. Carney:
Well, it's a great question,
Caren, because I think you will

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notice in the State of the
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similarities to previous State
of the Union addresses that this

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President has given and
to his -- the ones that

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his predecessors have given.

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There is a tradition to the
format that has led to -- a

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tradition to the format that has
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broad vision and some specific
ideas about where we can take

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the country, things that an
administration can do working

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with Congress or working
without Congress,

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to advance policy objectives.

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And you're right that the
economy is the principal theme,

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but it is not the only
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Part of giving a State of the
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state of the union,
of our country,

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and certainly foreign
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these are important elements
of any assessment of the state

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of the union.

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And the President will offer
his insights into that as well.

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Kristen, then Jake.

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The Press:
Thanks, Jay.

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Can you give us any insight into
what the President is thinking

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about the tone he wants to
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I know you've had some
conversations back there

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about how adversarial
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how much he wants to
leave the door open --

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Mr. Carney:
You do?

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The Press:
Yes.

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(laughter)

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So I just wonder if you can
talk at all about where the

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President's thinking is on that.

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Mr. Carney:
He wants to get things done.

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And he believes that, in
spite of the fact that it's

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an election year, that there are
opportunities here to work with

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Congress, and for him to fulfill
his responsibilities working

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with his executive authority
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presidency, to get those
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the American people.

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He rejects the idea that nothing
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because actually there's
historic precedent that

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proves otherwise -- and
it's just not in his nature.

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So he will very much
call for action,

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very much suggest that we can't
wait for another year to take

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some of these important steps,
and that opportunities are right

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there for us to take, for
Congress and the President to

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move forward on if there is a
willingness to come together

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and do that.

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And so I think the President
will be very clear about his

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vision, will be very clear
about his principles,

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about the ideas that I just laid
out in broad form -- about fair

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play and people
getting a fair shot,

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economic security and
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But there's ample room within
those boundaries for bipartisan

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cooperation and for
getting things done,

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and he'll make that clear.

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The Press:
Has he at this point
decided on the action

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items he wants in the speech --

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Mr. Carney:
For the most part.

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The Press:
-- or does the discussion of the
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do mainly with wording?

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Or is he thinking about big --

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Mr. Carney:
I think -- there's not
a debate about the tone

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he's going to adopt.

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I think the tone has been
reflected in what I just

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described to you and in what
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not just over the past several
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his career.

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The specific policy ideas
are things that get discussed

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internally and decisions are
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what not to include.

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But he knows what he's about and
he knows how he wants to present

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this picture of the state of
our union and his vision going

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forward, and there's
no debate about that.

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The Press:
And those big pieces
are fixed at this point,

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is that right?

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Mr. Carney:
Sure. Jake.

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The Press:
Has the President reviewed past
State of the Union addresses

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that he's delivered to look
at what proposals he's made

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that have come to fruition
and which have not?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I don't know that
he has done that in this

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specific process.

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He's very aware of the proposals
he's made and the initiatives

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that he's launched as President
and the ideas that he put

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forward as a candidate.

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He wouldn't take only this
opportunity to review where

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that stands and to decide what
requires further action and what

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new ideas to move on.

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So I guess the answer is I
don't know specifically that

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he individually has
made that assessment.

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I think that's an assessment
that he makes and others

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make regularly.

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And with regards to reviewing
previous States of the Union,

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perhaps his speechwriters
have done that,

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but I don't know that he has.

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The Press:
I ask because a number
of the items that he

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brought up last year have
not come to fruition,

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and I'm wondering if he
plans on reintroducing them,

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discussing them again, and
why it's been so unsuccessful.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I take strong
issue with the suggestion

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that what others have described
as historic accomplishments in

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the first three years in
office are unsuccessful.

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The Press:
I was talking about the 2011
State of the Union address.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that any State of
the Union address which lays out

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an agenda has to be ambitious.

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And if you got through a year
and you achieved everything on

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your list, then you probably
didn't aim high enough.

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So I think this
President aims high,

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and I think that there will --
there are absolutely things that

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remain undone that need to be
done that he will call on all

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of us to work together to get
done in this address and beyond.

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But there is also a fairly
comprehensive list of proposals

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that have been achieved that
I'm sure we'll be discussing

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as the year goes on.

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The Press:
And one last thing.

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A year ago, in addition
to the State of the Union,

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the President delivered a major
address in Tuscon after the

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shooting of Gabby
Giffords and six others.

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The President called
for a new tone,

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he called for a new
era of civility.

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And I'm wondering, looking
back at what has been a very

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contentious year, if he feels
that there is anything he could

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have done differently -- I
understand his issues with the

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opposing party -- but if there's
anything he himself feels he

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could have done differently.

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Mr. Carney:
Differently in what sense?

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The Press:
To live up to the words,
the call for unity,

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the call for not
demonizing his opponents.

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I haven't had this
discussion with him in the

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frame that you just provided.

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But I think -- having worked
with him through this past year,

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I think that his efforts
to reach out and achieve

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bipartisanship are
pretty notable,

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and you all have
reported on them.

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He did that from the beginning
of 2011 with the agreement that

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averted a government shutdown,
with his approach to deficit and

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debt reduction, in which he
led his party forward to try

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to achieve a grand bargain --
a compromise that was -- would

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have been a challenge
for Democrats to accept,

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but that he was absolutely
willing to lead on that and,

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unfortunately, did not have a
partner on the Republican side

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to achieve that grand bargain.

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But he remains committed to that
kind of bipartisan cooperation

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and committed to the idea
that we can disagree,

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but we can -- on specific issues
-- but there is still so much

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that we could agree on if we
put country ahead of party,

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if we put the American people
ahead of narrowly-focused

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political goals.

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And he works on that, he
works to achieve that,

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and he'll continue to
do that as President.

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The Press:
Thank you.

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Mr. Carney:
Laura and then Dan.

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The Press:
Just to follow up on that
line of thinking -- the

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White House's view about the
disappointments of not coming to

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agreement on the subjects you
just mentioned is well known.

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And my question is, do
you think that the tone,

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the -- at the Tucson speech he
talked about civility and the

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idea that you can discuss your
disagreements without anger

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and without this sort of
poison that has marked so

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much in Washington.

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Does he believe the last year
has been marked by a poisonous

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tone, or has there
been any improvement?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I think he accepts that
there is still a regrettable

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level of sort of
hyper-partisanship

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in Washington that contributes
significantly to gridlock.

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I think that -- and there have
been instances in the past year

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where tone got in the
way of moving forward.

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But that's not an excuse to
stop trying to work together

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or achieve significant
accomplishments for the

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American people.

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And his central
proposal, if you will,

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in the discussions with the
Speaker of the House and the

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grand bargain negotiations was
that this -- if we do this we

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will both come under pressure
within our own parties,

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but together we will have
accomplished something

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significant that
will be worth doing,

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will have been worth doing.

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And that was the
approach he took in that,

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and he still believes that there
is an opportunity to move ahead

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to do big things in
a bipartisan way.

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So I don't know how last year
compares with previous years.

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Generally speaking, this
President, as a candidate,

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noted in 2008 the tone of
our politics has gotten

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unnecessarily partisan in a
way that turns off the American

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people and makes it
harder to get things done.

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The Press:
What were you thinking
of when you said that

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there are -- were some examples,
instances where the tone got in

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the way of moving forward?

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Mr. Carney:
Well, I'm not going to --
I think you guys reported

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on them so you know.

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I can remember, early in
my days as Press Secretary,

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spending an awful lot of time
answering questions about the

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President's birth certificate,
which seemed like a gratuitously

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stupid sideshow at a time when
we had enormously important

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things to do.

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That's just one.

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But the point is that we have
-- our challenges are too big to

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get dragged down by
these kinds of things.

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And that's what the President
believes and that's what he has

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believed and spoken about
since he got in the business

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of electoral politics and it's
going to be what he continues

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to talk about tomorrow
night and beyond.

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The Press:
In the President's
address tomorrow,

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will he be as equally
ambitious as he was in 2011,

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realizing that a lot of
what he lays out there

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really won't get done?

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Mr. Carney:
He'll be ambitious.

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I'll leave it to you to judge --

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The Press:
You said he sets this high bar,
realizing that a lot of what --

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Mr. Carney:
My point was that if --
yes, that any President,

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and I think you could make
this assessment of most modern

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Presidents' State of
the Union addresses,

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sets an agenda that is
ambitious, and should be,

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and that sometimes not
everything -- even in years

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of relative harmony, not all
of it necessarily will be

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accomplished, but that is --
that doesn't make it -- you

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shouldn't trim your
sails because of that.

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The President will put forward
an agenda that he believes is

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doable but is
obviously ambitious,

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and he will call on Congress,
on the things that require

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legislation and cooperation
between the administration and

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Congress, to work with him,
to work together to get these

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things done.

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And as we've talked
about in the past,

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perhaps there will be an
assessment by members of

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Congress -- Republicans in
particular -- that it is in

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their interest to do this not
just because it's good policy

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and good for the country and
good for the economy and good

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for job creation, but also
because it might actually help

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them get reelected in the fall
-- because, unfortunately,

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we've heard recently coming out
of the House Republican caucus

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basically that
the agenda is not,

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as outlined by the leadership,
taking them in that direction

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of cooperation.

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But when you have 85
percent disapproval,

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you might think that cooperation
and getting something done is a

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better approach, especially when
an election year is upon us.

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The Press:
And what will be the balance
between those things that the

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President claims to do on
his own as he lays out this

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blueprint and those
things that will require

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congressional approval?

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I mean is it heavier --

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Mr. Carney:
Some of one and
some of the other.

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The Press:
Will it be heavier on
one than the other?

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Mr. Carney:
No, I'll let you guys see.

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I mean, we -- look, throughout
this period where we have

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focused some attention on the
measures that the President can

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and has been taking because we
can't wait for Congress to act,

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we absolutely acknowledge that
some very big things can't be

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done without
congressional action,

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because it requires --
they require legislation.

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And some things that a President
can do using his or her

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executive authority are
relatively small in nature,

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but that doesn't make them not
worth doing -- some of them are

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medium-sized or large.

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But truly big things, whether
it's historic health care

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reform, or passing a Recovery
Act that halted an economy in

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freefall and reversed a process
that was leading towards a Great

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Depression -- that requires
legislative action.

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And other big things require
legislative action --

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comprehensive immigration reform
requires legislative action.

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There's a lot to be
done that requires the

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cooperation of Congress.

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So there will be plenty of that
in this President's address.

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The Press:
And just quickly, did
the President watch the

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South Carolina results over
the weekend, anything to that?

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And also, any reaction
to Joe Paterno's death?

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Mr. Carney:
I haven't discussed
with him the results

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in the South Carolina primary,
so I just -- I don't know.

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Again, I think I've -- my guess
is he read about them and didn't

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watch them.

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But I don't have a
reaction for you on that.

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And I'll have to -- I don't have
anything on Joe Paterno's death

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either at this point. Norah.

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The Press:
You just mentioned comprehensive
immigration reform.

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Does the President believe
in comprehensive tax reform?

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Mr. Carney:
Yes.

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The Press:
Will he be talking about that?

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Mr. Carney:
As he said many times.

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Both corporate and individual.

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The Press:
Does he believe in -- that
there should be changes

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in campaign finance?

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Mr. Carney:
I will ask you to
wait for the speech.

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Our position on the
Citizens United decision

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has been well described.

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But I don't have any new
proposals or ideas to give

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to you today.

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The Press:
Sometimes the word "laundry
list" is used in a pejorative

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sense when talking about
State of the Unions,

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but is the President's State
of the Union going to include a

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long list of policy proposals,
or would you describe this more

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as a framework, with specifics
to be laid out in the future?

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Mr. Carney:
There will be policy proposals,
as well as -- within the context

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of a framework.

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Some of the things that he
discusses -- and I think this

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is usually the case in a
well-conceived State of the

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Union address, which I believe
and hope you will agree with me

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this is -- that there will
be more details forthcoming,

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because you don't want to test
the American people's patience

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too much by speaking for two
hours about arcane policy

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details, but you will -- he
will go into some detail.

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There will be other details
forthcoming with regard to

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some of the policy ideas
that he puts forward.

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But it will be a
substantive speech.

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The Press:
This is the President's
third State of the Union;

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he's making it in
an election year.

472
00:27:20,233 --> 00:27:22,533
You sort of were pushing back
the idea that it's a political

473
00:27:22,533 --> 00:27:25,466
speech, but if
it's not political,

474
00:27:25,467 --> 00:27:28,500
why then did the President
choose to offer a preview

475
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:29,700
through his campaign?

476
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:31,500
Mr. Carney:
Well, he did that
last year as well.

477
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,100
This White House,
this administration,

478
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:39,367
this President have,
from the beginning,

479
00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:44,100
used new media to reach out
to Americans and supporters,

480
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:49,300
whether it's a
political year or not.

481
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:52,367
Last year was an
off-year, and he did this.

482
00:27:52,367 --> 00:27:58,000
And the fact of the matter is,
tomorrow night he speaks to the

483
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,433
nation at large and he will --
the themes that he discussed in

484
00:28:01,433 --> 00:28:03,700
that video will be
reflected in the speech.

485
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,200
And it is very much --

486
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,467
The Press:
But the uplink was
to supporters only.

487
00:28:08,467 --> 00:28:11,533
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think every major
news organization got it, too.

488
00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:15,199
But the -- concurrently,
so I wouldn't say it was

489
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,533
supporters only.

490
00:28:16,533 --> 00:28:17,734
The Press:
Why didn't you use the White
House website instead of the

491
00:28:17,734 --> 00:28:18,899
campaign website?

492
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:22,567
Mr. Carney:
This is a process that
we've employed for a

493
00:28:22,567 --> 00:28:24,300
long time here.

494
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:30,466
The speech tomorrow -- you'll
probably come back and ask me

495
00:28:30,467 --> 00:28:33,500
why it was so heavy on substance
and lacking in politics.

496
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:38,333
But it's a serious speech with
serious proposals for how to

497
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:40,667
keep this country moving
in the right direction.

498
00:28:40,667 --> 00:28:42,632
The Press:
You talked about some
of the values that the

499
00:28:42,633 --> 00:28:44,300
President laid out --
he did it in Kansas.

500
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:47,500
Can I get you to
respond to Mitt Romney,

501
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:50,400
who said that the President
wants to put "free enterprise

502
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,200
on trial," and he wants to
"divide Americans with the

503
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,533
bitter politics of envy."

504
00:28:57,533 --> 00:29:02,166
Mr. Carney:
I will simply say, as the
President has made clear

505
00:29:02,166 --> 00:29:04,133
when he's addressed
these broader issues,

506
00:29:04,133 --> 00:29:09,800
that -- well, two things: On
free enterprise and business,

507
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,300
the facts, contrary to
what some people charge,

508
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:16,367
are that this President has
actually put in fewer new

509
00:29:16,367 --> 00:29:19,667
regulations than his Republican
predecessor at this point,

510
00:29:19,667 --> 00:29:22,199
at less cost and more
economic benefit.

511
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,333
He has instituted a regulatory
look-back that is unprecedented

512
00:29:25,333 --> 00:29:29,066
and has his administration
combing through the regulations

513
00:29:29,066 --> 00:29:32,700
of the past, eliminating
those that are no longer worth

514
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:38,367
enforcing and rewriting those
that can be made more efficient

515
00:29:38,367 --> 00:29:39,934
for American business to grow.

516
00:29:39,934 --> 00:29:44,133
He has passed 17 or 18
small business tax cuts.

517
00:29:44,133 --> 00:29:47,734
So this President's absolute
faith and commitment to the

518
00:29:47,734 --> 00:29:50,800
free enterprise
system is profound.

519
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:56,332
There's no doubt that we have a
disagreement with at least some

520
00:29:56,333 --> 00:29:58,734
Republicans -- although
depending on the survey,

521
00:29:58,734 --> 00:30:03,100
not rank-and-file Republicans --
that our tax system needs to be

522
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:08,934
fixed so that billionaires
don't pay a lower rate than

523
00:30:08,934 --> 00:30:11,133
working-class,
middle-class Americans.

524
00:30:11,133 --> 00:30:12,166
That's what the
President believes.

525
00:30:12,166 --> 00:30:15,899
He believes that we have
important responsibilities

526
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:19,133
as a country, commitments that
we need to keep to our national

527
00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:26,333
security, to educating our kids,
to investing in innovation that

528
00:30:26,333 --> 00:30:29,100
cost something, to maintaining
Medicare and Social Security and

529
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:34,332
Medicaid for our seniors, and
that we need to make sure that

530
00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:37,633
those programs are strong, that
our national security is strong

531
00:30:37,633 --> 00:30:42,333
so that we can continue to be a
great nation that dominates the

532
00:30:42,333 --> 00:30:46,166
21st century economically the
way it dominated the 20th,

533
00:30:46,166 --> 00:30:49,200
and in doing that, we need to
decide what's the best way to

534
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,467
pay for it, what's the
fairest way to do it.

535
00:30:51,467 --> 00:30:54,467
And the President believes that
it is not fair -- inherently not

536
00:30:54,467 --> 00:30:56,934
fair that those who are
millionaires and billionaires

537
00:30:56,934 --> 00:31:01,734
pay at a lower rate than average
Americans who are struggling to

538
00:31:01,734 --> 00:31:05,100
get by, especially after a
decade where the middle class

539
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:08,367
has been squeezed while the top
1 percent has seen its wealth

540
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:11,700
grow considerably, and
three-decade period where

541
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,133
the middle class has
been under pressure.

542
00:31:14,133 --> 00:31:18,633
Remember, not just going
back to Osawatomie, Kansas,

543
00:31:18,633 --> 00:31:22,400
but going back years, that this
theme about economic insecurity

544
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,233
for the middle class has
been -- is what got this

545
00:31:26,233 --> 00:31:27,966
President into politics.

546
00:31:27,967 --> 00:31:32,834
So this is a foundational belief
for him and he's happy to have

547
00:31:32,834 --> 00:31:33,900
that debate.

548
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,000
And he thinks that
overwhelmingly the American

549
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:44,567
people share his view that we
need to have everyone play by

550
00:31:44,567 --> 00:31:47,567
the same rules, whether it's
Wall Street or Main Street,

551
00:31:47,567 --> 00:31:51,033
and we need to have a tax system
that ensures that everyone pays

552
00:31:51,033 --> 00:31:53,265
their fair share.

553
00:31:53,266 --> 00:31:54,467
Ed.

554
00:31:54,467 --> 00:31:56,266
The Press:
Jay, a couple moments
ago you were talking

555
00:31:56,266 --> 00:31:58,533
about Congress and you mentioned
the 85 percent disapproval,

556
00:31:58,533 --> 00:31:59,300
and it --

557
00:31:59,300 --> 00:32:01,433
Mr. Carney:
It's something like
that, I can't remember.

558
00:32:01,433 --> 00:32:04,033
The Press:
Right, fair enough -- that
it shows that they're in a

559
00:32:04,033 --> 00:32:05,033
dismal state right now.

560
00:32:05,033 --> 00:32:08,600
There's a Gallup poll out now
saying that there's 83 percent

561
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,233
dissatisfaction with the
state of the economy from

562
00:32:11,233 --> 00:32:12,399
the American people.

563
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,800
I get that, as you were
just talking to Norah about

564
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,867
inequality in this country has
been a foundational principle

565
00:32:18,867 --> 00:32:19,800
for the President.

566
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,133
But isn't that also a way
for you to kind of shift the

567
00:32:22,133 --> 00:32:26,000
conversation about inequalities
in the economy rather than just

568
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,400
a broader state of the economy
when the American people are

569
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,734
pretty frustrated with it?

570
00:32:29,734 --> 00:32:32,199
Mr. Carney:
Well, it's a great question,
Ed, and I think that we will

571
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,133
be absolutely talking about
the state of the economy,

572
00:32:35,133 --> 00:32:38,133
beginning with the
President, but all of us.

573
00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:44,934
And it is a matter of absolute
fact that when this President

574
00:32:44,934 --> 00:32:49,966
took office the
economy was plummeting,

575
00:32:49,967 --> 00:32:53,700
job loss was through the roof,
and that since his policies took

576
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,667
effect -- had the opportunity
to be passed by Congress and

577
00:32:56,667 --> 00:33:01,399
to take effect, the reverse has
happened: 3.2 million private

578
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:07,400
sector jobs created over 22
months; steady economic growth;

579
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,533
the salvation of an
iconic American industry,

580
00:33:10,533 --> 00:33:14,699
the automobile industry; passage
of historic health care reform

581
00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:20,633
that already has millions of
Americans up to age 26 getting

582
00:33:20,633 --> 00:33:22,633
insurance when they
otherwise might not have,

583
00:33:22,633 --> 00:33:25,100
already has millions of
Americans protected by the

584
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:29,667
provisions within it that
allow them to get insurance

585
00:33:29,667 --> 00:33:32,132
even if they have
preexisting conditions,

586
00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:36,600
already has provided savings
in the millions and millions of

587
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,065
dollars for seniors in terms
of their preventive care and

588
00:33:41,066 --> 00:33:42,834
prescription drug benefits.

589
00:33:42,834 --> 00:33:47,900
So we'll have that
discussion, no doubt.

590
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:56,400
And the President's record is
-- I think it demonstrates his

591
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,700
commitment to the middle class,
to getting this country back on

592
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:06,533
the right track, to ensuring
that the kinds of behaviors in

593
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:10,500
the financial sector that helped
precipitate the kind of economic

594
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:13,033
crisis that none of us had
ever experienced before,

595
00:34:13,033 --> 00:34:16,033
that puts so much pressure on
American families around the

596
00:34:16,033 --> 00:34:22,100
country, is contained and
regulated in a way that ensures

597
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:23,467
it won't happen again.

598
00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:25,133
We'll have that debate, gladly.

599
00:34:25,132 --> 00:34:26,567
The Press:
So this will be
about his vision.

600
00:34:26,567 --> 00:34:27,934
I wonder if you could
clear something up.

601
00:34:27,934 --> 00:34:30,100
Newt Gingrich keeps saying
on the campaign trail that

602
00:34:30,100 --> 00:34:32,533
the President's vision
comes from Saul Alinsky,

603
00:34:32,533 --> 00:34:34,033
the community organizer.

604
00:34:34,033 --> 00:34:35,333
I haven't heard you
asked about that.

605
00:34:35,333 --> 00:34:37,700
I'm wondering if you want to --
is there some sort of portrait

606
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:39,265
of him in the White House
that people look up to?

607
00:34:39,266 --> 00:34:40,266
(laughter)

608
00:34:40,266 --> 00:34:43,300
Or is this just some --
is this BS basically?

609
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:48,533
(laughter)

610
00:34:48,533 --> 00:34:51,199
Mr. Carney:
Have I said how much
fun I had as a reporter

611
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,399
covering Congress
from 1996 to 1998?

612
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:59,100
There was a certain
bombast to it at the time,

613
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:02,767
a lot of colorful
things to cover.

614
00:35:02,767 --> 00:35:04,500
(laughter)

615
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:09,867
But the President's background
as a community organizer is well

616
00:35:09,867 --> 00:35:12,166
documented in the
President's own books,

617
00:35:12,166 --> 00:35:21,300
so his experience in that field
obviously contributed to who he

618
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:22,867
is today.

619
00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:27,633
But his experience is a
broad-based one that includes a

620
00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:32,332
lot of other areas in his life,
so I'll just leave it at that.

621
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000
The Press:
On Newt, the Vice President was
on the radio with Ryan Seacrest,

622
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,967
I believe this morning,
and was asked about the

623
00:35:39,967 --> 00:35:42,133
open marriage question, and
the Vice President first said

624
00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:44,000
he wasn't going to comment,
and then he did and said --

625
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,667
(laughter)

626
00:35:47,667 --> 00:35:48,866
Just factually
stating what he did.

627
00:35:48,867 --> 00:35:49,767
(laughter)

628
00:35:49,767 --> 00:35:53,232
And then he said that, "Newt
Gingrich" -- the Vice President

629
00:35:53,233 --> 00:35:56,633
said -- "is going to be judged
by the voters in the primary in

630
00:35:56,633 --> 00:35:58,834
the totality of who he is,
and that includes everything.

631
00:35:58,834 --> 00:36:02,332
I mean, people make judgments
about our character."

632
00:36:02,333 --> 00:36:04,867
You were asked this I think
on Thursday or Friday --

633
00:36:04,867 --> 00:36:05,734
Mr. Carney:
I wasn't asked quite --

634
00:36:05,734 --> 00:36:07,834
The Press:
You were asked about his
character and whatnot,

635
00:36:07,834 --> 00:36:09,767
you said -- you kind of said,
you didn't want to get into it.

636
00:36:09,767 --> 00:36:10,767
The Vice President did.

637
00:36:10,767 --> 00:36:12,500
Does this mean that the
White House believes --

638
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:13,533
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think the
Vice President said --

639
00:36:13,533 --> 00:36:15,000
The Press:
-- Newt Gingrich's
personal is fair game?

640
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,834
Mr. Carney:
-- very much what I said is that
it's up to voters to decide,

641
00:36:17,834 --> 00:36:22,567
and voters make decisions
based on a variety of criteria.

642
00:36:22,567 --> 00:36:26,066
And in some -- different voters
have different critera that they

643
00:36:26,066 --> 00:36:30,000
use when they're making
judgments about for whom

644
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,233
they'll cast their ballots.

645
00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:33,767
And we'll leave that
up to the voters,

646
00:36:33,767 --> 00:36:37,366
and I'm sure there is a
totality to it that --

647
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:38,834
The Press:
-- character is what
the Vice President said.

648
00:36:38,834 --> 00:36:41,799
Mr. Carney:
I think that books and
studies show that some

649
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,767
voters make judgments
based on character,

650
00:36:43,767 --> 00:36:45,600
but you have to define
what character means for

651
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,633
you as a voter.

652
00:36:46,633 --> 00:36:49,033
So I think the
President's approach,

653
00:36:49,033 --> 00:36:54,165
the Vice President's approach is
to work as hard as they can on

654
00:36:54,166 --> 00:36:57,400
behalf of the American people on
the issues that they believe are

655
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,433
most important to
the American people,

656
00:36:59,433 --> 00:37:04,800
and to be judged accordingly by
the voters when the time comes.

657
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,934
You know, how the Republican
primary process sorts itself

658
00:37:07,934 --> 00:37:11,567
out is fascinating, no doubt.

659
00:37:11,567 --> 00:37:14,233
But it's a process that we don't
have any involvement in and

660
00:37:14,233 --> 00:37:16,300
we're just watching
from the sidelines.

661
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,700
And when a nominee emerges,
we'll engage -- the President

662
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:22,734
will engage in that debate, and
I'm sure the Vice President will

663
00:37:22,734 --> 00:37:25,500
engage in a debate at the
appropriate time with whoever

664
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,667
the vice presidential
running mate is.

665
00:37:27,667 --> 00:37:30,467
But again, I think what we're
trying to stress here is,

666
00:37:30,467 --> 00:37:33,133
while that process is
taking place, as it should,

667
00:37:35,533 --> 00:37:40,834
we have the opportunity here to
actually move an agenda forward

668
00:37:40,834 --> 00:37:44,232
now, in the year 2012, that can
help the American economy and

669
00:37:44,233 --> 00:37:45,433
help the American people.

670
00:37:45,433 --> 00:37:47,667
The Press:
On the economy -- last thing
-- the Vice President also was

671
00:37:47,667 --> 00:37:49,100
asked about housing.

672
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,533
And remember Mitt Romney
in October talked about

673
00:37:51,533 --> 00:37:54,433
foreclosures and said, "let it
run its course and hit bottom,"

674
00:37:54,433 --> 00:37:56,467
and the DNC went
after him about that.

675
00:37:56,467 --> 00:37:58,400
The Vice President
was quoted as saying,

676
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,633
"let the bottom fall out
and then start to clean up.

677
00:38:00,633 --> 00:38:04,567
It's sort of Darwinisn; the
fittest out there," and,

678
00:38:04,567 --> 00:38:07,200
"they're right; it's the
quickest way to do it."

679
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,200
And then he went on to say, but
you have to be compassionate;

680
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,366
you can't just kick
people out on the street.

681
00:38:10,367 --> 00:38:13,433
He made a delineation from what
he thinks Republicans have said

682
00:38:13,433 --> 00:38:14,266
-- in fairness.

683
00:38:14,266 --> 00:38:17,433
However, he did say that you've
got to let it hit bottom.

684
00:38:17,433 --> 00:38:18,900
Isn't that what Mitt
Romney is saying?

685
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:21,166
Mr. Carney:
Ed, can I just say first, you
read me portions of an interview

686
00:38:21,166 --> 00:38:22,266
I haven't even heard yet.

687
00:38:22,266 --> 00:38:24,100
I think based on
what you've read,

688
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:28,834
he's giving an assessment of
what one of the Republican

689
00:38:28,834 --> 00:38:32,033
candidates said and sort of
explaining it more fully,

690
00:38:32,033 --> 00:38:37,700
and then also explaining,
broadly, the approach we take,

691
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:41,799
which is that there are a lot
of Americans out there who have

692
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:47,166
underwater mortgages whom we
have tried to offer relief in

693
00:38:47,166 --> 00:38:48,900
a responsible way.

694
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:52,800
And that's the approach we think
is necessary because we need --

695
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,800
we're in this boat together.

696
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,800
We need to grow the economy
in a way that helps as many

697
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,800
people as possible.

698
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,233
That's the approach we take.

699
00:39:04,233 --> 00:39:08,767
The Press:
In one of the New Yorker
stories today about the

700
00:39:08,767 --> 00:39:11,899
internal memos, a
couple of questions.

701
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:15,233
Ryan Lizza writes that,
"the Obama administration

702
00:39:15,233 --> 00:39:18,467
at one point shifted
from honest budgeting

703
00:39:18,467 --> 00:39:21,000
to accepting gimmickry."

704
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,533
And he notes specifically
a change in the figures for

705
00:39:24,533 --> 00:39:30,100
disaster relief, and he also
notes that the health care bill

706
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:34,033
-- the savings that could be
had from the health care bill,

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he indicates that the President
signed off on perhaps using

708
00:39:37,266 --> 00:39:40,166
budget gimmickry to make it
look like we're saving more

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00:39:40,166 --> 00:39:41,767
than we are.

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00:39:41,767 --> 00:39:45,265
Mr. Carney:
I assume that's a question,
but the -- first of all,

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00:39:45,266 --> 00:39:48,633
it's a very long article and
I haven't gotten through it,

712
00:39:48,633 --> 00:39:49,933
to be quite honest.

713
00:39:49,934 --> 00:39:54,600
The portrait that I
see portrayed in it,

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00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,333
based on the half of the
article that I've read so far,

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00:39:57,333 --> 00:40:02,834
is one of the enormous economic
calamity that the President and

716
00:40:02,834 --> 00:40:06,433
his team faced as they were
coming into office in the end

717
00:40:06,433 --> 00:40:13,133
of 2008 and early 2009, and the
monumental decisions that the

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00:40:13,133 --> 00:40:15,933
President had to
make at the time.

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00:40:15,934 --> 00:40:19,867
Specifically, just
because it's a fact,

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on the issue of health
care reform savings,

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00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,066
I point you to the
CBO, non-partisan CBO,

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00:40:26,066 --> 00:40:32,433
which absolutely concluded that
the Affordable Care Act is a

723
00:40:32,433 --> 00:40:36,433
deficit reducer -- a rather
substantial deficit reducer.

724
00:40:36,433 --> 00:40:41,000
So that's a fact.

725
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,800
And, look, I think the
President's economic team --

726
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:50,934
economic teams have been focused
on getting the policy right,

727
00:40:50,934 --> 00:40:54,667
on making extremely
difficult judgments,

728
00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:57,967
especially two years ago during
-- and three years ago during

729
00:40:57,967 --> 00:40:59,967
extremely difficult
economic times.

730
00:40:59,967 --> 00:41:05,166
And going back to the
answer I gave to Ed,

731
00:41:05,166 --> 00:41:11,266
let's let the record be
judged for its results.

732
00:41:11,266 --> 00:41:16,300
And I think that while we have a
long way to go in this economy,

733
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:19,233
there is no arguing the fact
that the direction that we've

734
00:41:19,233 --> 00:41:21,567
been going in since the
President's policies have had a

735
00:41:21,567 --> 00:41:25,100
chance to take effect is a heck
of a lot better -- is much more

736
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:27,400
the right direction compared to
the direction this country and

737
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,400
this economy were going
in when he took office.

738
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,767
I think that's indisputable.

739
00:41:32,767 --> 00:41:33,899
Julia.

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00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:34,433
The Press:
Thanks.

741
00:41:34,433 --> 00:41:38,133
Is the budget still set to
be released on February 6th?

742
00:41:38,133 --> 00:41:40,466
Mr. Carney:
I don't know.

743
00:41:40,467 --> 00:41:41,533
I'll have to get back to you.

744
00:41:41,533 --> 00:41:43,533
I don't have a budget
release date for you.

745
00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:45,533
Sorry.

746
00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:47,567
The Press:
Jay, do you know if the
White House has been in

747
00:41:47,567 --> 00:41:51,200
touch with Senator Kirk's
family or office since he

748
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,066
suffered a stroke?

749
00:41:52,066 --> 00:41:52,667
Mr. Carney:
I don't know that.

750
00:41:52,667 --> 00:41:58,799
I saw that report before I came
out and our -- we're obviously

751
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,734
concerned about his condition,
but wish him a speedy recovery.

752
00:42:02,734 --> 00:42:05,133
I just don't have any more
details on that or how much

753
00:42:05,133 --> 00:42:08,100
outreach has taken place
from here at this point.

754
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:11,600
The Press:
And then another
non-State of the Union issue.

755
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,266
As you may have heard, Senator
Rand Paul had an incident today

756
00:42:15,266 --> 00:42:18,066
at the Nashville
airport with the TSA.

757
00:42:18,066 --> 00:42:21,033
His father, Ron Paul, has
issued a statement saying,

758
00:42:21,033 --> 00:42:23,467
"The police state in this
country is growing out of

759
00:42:23,467 --> 00:42:27,934
control, and one of the
embodiments of this is the TSA."

760
00:42:27,934 --> 00:42:29,333
What does the White
House make of that?

761
00:42:29,333 --> 00:42:30,700
Mr. Carney:
What I can tell you is
that when an irregularity

762
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,066
is found during the
TSA screening process,

763
00:42:33,066 --> 00:42:36,066
it must be resolved prior to
allowing a passenger -- any

764
00:42:36,066 --> 00:42:39,433
passenger -- to proceed to the
secure area of the airport.

765
00:42:39,433 --> 00:42:42,266
Passengers who refuse to
complete the screening process

766
00:42:42,266 --> 00:42:45,100
cannot be granted access to the
secure area in order to ensure

767
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:46,366
the safety of others traveling.

768
00:42:46,367 --> 00:42:49,967
And let's just be clear, the
passenger was not detained.

769
00:42:49,967 --> 00:42:52,900
The passenger triggered an alarm
during routine airport screening

770
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:55,133
but refused to complete the
screening process in order to

771
00:42:55,133 --> 00:42:56,667
resolve the issue.

772
00:42:56,667 --> 00:42:59,866
Passengers, as in this case, who
refuse to comply with security

773
00:42:59,867 --> 00:43:03,333
procedures are denied access
to the secure gate area.

774
00:43:03,333 --> 00:43:05,500
In this case, the passenger was
escorted out of the screening

775
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:06,934
area by local law enforcement.

776
00:43:06,934 --> 00:43:11,667
It's my understanding he has
now rebooked and passed through

777
00:43:11,667 --> 00:43:16,799
security without incident,
and that has resolved itself.

778
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,400
The Press:
What do you make of the
statement from his father?

779
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:26,800
Mr. Carney:
I think it is absolutely
essential that we take the

780
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,166
necessary actions to ensure
that air travel is safe,

781
00:43:29,166 --> 00:43:34,066
and I believe that's what
TSA is tasked with doing.

782
00:43:34,066 --> 00:43:35,767
I don't have a specific
response to that statement.

783
00:43:35,767 --> 00:43:38,734
I would refer you
to TSA for more.

784
00:43:38,734 --> 00:43:39,467
Kristen.

785
00:43:39,467 --> 00:43:40,166
The Press:
Jay, thanks.

786
00:43:40,166 --> 00:43:42,133
You announced at the top of
the briefing that Mark Kelly

787
00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:43,466
will be coming to the
State of the Union.

788
00:43:43,467 --> 00:43:45,934
Can you announce any other
guests that will be there?

789
00:43:45,934 --> 00:43:48,567
Mr. Carney:
I don't have any other
announcements to make at

790
00:43:48,567 --> 00:43:50,533
this point on guests in the box.

791
00:43:50,533 --> 00:43:55,266
The Press:
Okay. And some reporters have
characterized this particular

792
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:58,233
State of the Union not only as
the President's -- the President

793
00:43:58,233 --> 00:44:01,834
laying out his vision for 2012,
but also for the next four years

794
00:44:01,834 --> 00:44:02,899
if he were to be reelected.

795
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,066
Is that a fair way to
characterize this speech?

796
00:44:05,066 --> 00:44:08,633
Mr. Carney:
Well, I think that the
direction and vision

797
00:44:08,633 --> 00:44:13,567
that the President will describe
tomorrow night is not limited to

798
00:44:13,567 --> 00:44:15,600
the calendar year of 2012.

799
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,767
It is -- going back to my
earlier answers -- filled

800
00:44:20,767 --> 00:44:27,466
with ideas that he hopes will be
acted on in this calendar year

801
00:44:27,467 --> 00:44:31,133
-- some that he can do himself
or his administration can do,

802
00:44:31,133 --> 00:44:33,767
others that he hopes will
be acted on with Congress.

803
00:44:33,767 --> 00:44:39,500
But the broader vision is about
the direction he believes we

804
00:44:39,500 --> 00:44:42,867
need to move this country,
and that's a project that

805
00:44:42,867 --> 00:44:43,967
lasts longer than a year.

806
00:44:43,967 --> 00:44:47,367
It's a project that has already
-- he has been engaged in for

807
00:44:47,367 --> 00:44:54,934
three years and he hopes to be
engaged in for another five.

808
00:44:54,934 --> 00:45:01,433
This is a project that I think
he has said will outlast even

809
00:45:01,433 --> 00:45:08,800
two terms in the Oval Office
as we continue to build and

810
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:14,200
strengthen and renew the
American economy in the

811
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,734
21st century.

812
00:45:15,734 --> 00:45:19,100
But he believes that this is
a pivotal moment and that the

813
00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:22,767
actions that we were able to
take in the early months after

814
00:45:22,767 --> 00:45:27,600
the economic calamity that
befell this country in 2008

815
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,467
were vital to putting the
economy on the right track,

816
00:45:31,467 --> 00:45:34,700
and that there is more we must
do in order to ensure that we

817
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,332
have a foundation to our economy
that allows security for the

818
00:45:38,333 --> 00:45:43,734
middle class, that allows
American manufacturing to

819
00:45:43,734 --> 00:45:48,333
blossom so that good,
well-paying jobs are created

820
00:45:48,333 --> 00:45:54,066
here in the United States,
and that allows us to pay

821
00:45:54,066 --> 00:45:56,332
the necessary attention and make
the necessary investments in our

822
00:45:56,333 --> 00:46:00,867
education system so that we
have -- continue to have the

823
00:46:00,867 --> 00:46:03,266
best-educated, most-skilled
workforce in the world.

824
00:46:03,266 --> 00:46:03,800
The Press:
Thank you.

825
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,533
Mr. Carney:
Stephen -- last one.

826
00:46:05,533 --> 00:46:09,600
The Press:
Thanks. On Yemen, how is the
President's support for the

827
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,667
right of protest in the Middle
East and wider message on the

828
00:46:12,667 --> 00:46:16,799
Arab Spring compatible with the
decision to allow President Saleh,

829
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,734
who is accused of -- blamed
for the deaths of hundreds of

830
00:46:19,734 --> 00:46:22,734
demonstrators, to come to New
York for medical treatment?

831
00:46:22,734 --> 00:46:25,232
Mr. Carney:
Well, I mean those are
two separate things.

832
00:46:25,233 --> 00:46:27,867
Our support for the right
of protest is unchanged.

833
00:46:27,867 --> 00:46:31,200
And the fact of the
matter is, as you note,

834
00:46:34,266 --> 00:46:36,100
Mr. Saleh's request
to travel to the U.S.

835
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:37,500
for medical treatment
has been approved,

836
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,767
and the purpose of this travel
is for medical treatment alone.

837
00:46:41,767 --> 00:46:43,667
And we expect that he will
stay for a limited time that

838
00:46:43,667 --> 00:46:45,799
corresponds to the
duration of this treatment.

839
00:46:47,967 --> 00:46:52,967
We, at the same time, believe
that his absence from Yemen at

840
00:46:52,967 --> 00:46:56,100
this critical juncture will help
facilitate a transition that

841
00:46:56,100 --> 00:47:00,133
completes the end of his rule,
helps Yemen and ultimately has

842
00:47:00,133 --> 00:47:02,767
a positive effect on the
rights and dignity of the

843
00:47:02,767 --> 00:47:05,066
Yemeni people.

844
00:47:05,066 --> 00:47:08,933
Our policy focus remains on
preventing further instability

845
00:47:08,934 --> 00:47:10,433
and keeping that
transition on track.

846
00:47:12,667 --> 00:47:15,767
The Press:
So the decision to admit
him is an attempt by the

847
00:47:15,767 --> 00:47:18,066
United States to improve the
conditions running up to the

848
00:47:18,066 --> 00:47:20,466
election, not just
a medical issue?

849
00:47:20,467 --> 00:47:24,567
Mr. Carney:
Well, no, he has been
granted a visa to this

850
00:47:24,567 --> 00:47:26,967
country solely for
medical treatment.

851
00:47:27,467 --> 00:47:33,800
His absence from Yemen we
hope will help facilitate the

852
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,667
transition, but that would be
true of his absence no matter

853
00:47:38,667 --> 00:47:39,667
where he went.

854
00:47:39,667 --> 00:47:41,633
The fact is he's been
granted a visa to this

855
00:47:41,633 --> 00:47:43,299
country for medical treatment.

856
00:47:43,967 --> 00:47:45,266
Thank you all very much.