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1 00:00:00,834 --> 00:00:01,834 Mr. Carney: Good afternoon, everyone. 2 00:00:01,834 --> 00:00:02,900 Thanks for being here. 3 00:00:02,900 --> 00:00:03,900 I have no announcements. 4 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:04,967 I'll go straight to questions. 5 00:00:04,967 --> 00:00:05,967 Julie. 6 00:00:05,967 --> 00:00:06,967 The Press: Thank you. 7 00:00:06,967 --> 00:00:08,400 There's a lot of conflicting information coming out of 8 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:09,533 Algeria today. 9 00:00:09,533 --> 00:00:13,934 I'm wondering if you can tell us what the status is of the 10 00:00:13,934 --> 00:00:16,967 Americans that had been held hostage. 11 00:00:16,967 --> 00:00:20,000 Mr. Carney: It is our understanding that there are Americans involved, 12 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,700 but I would say a couple of things. 13 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:26,734 One, we condemn in the strongest terms a terrorist attack on BP 14 00:00:26,734 --> 00:00:28,600 personnel and facilities in Algeria, 15 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,734 and we are closely monitoring the situation. 16 00:00:30,734 --> 00:00:33,900 We are in contact with Algerian authorities and our 17 00:00:33,900 --> 00:00:37,300 international partners, as well as with BP's security office 18 00:00:37,300 --> 00:00:38,300 in London. 19 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:40,166 Unfortunately, the best information we have at this 20 00:00:40,166 --> 00:00:43,599 time, as I said, indicates that U.S. citizens are among 21 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,600 the hostages. 22 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,266 But we don't have at this point more details to provide to you. 23 00:00:49,266 --> 00:00:52,132 We're certainly concerned about reports of loss of life and are 24 00:00:52,133 --> 00:00:55,700 seeking clarity from the government of Algeria. 25 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:57,967 The Press: But at this point you can't say whether those Americans are 26 00:00:57,967 --> 00:00:59,233 alive or dead? 27 00:00:59,233 --> 00:01:04,800 Mr. Carney: Again, I just can only say that we are deeply concerned about 28 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,467 any loss of innocent life and are seeking clarity from the 29 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:10,233 government of Algeria. 30 00:01:10,233 --> 00:01:14,867 The Press: The U.S. obviously has helped other countries with hostage 31 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:18,700 rescue missions, just last week, with the French in Somalia. 32 00:01:18,700 --> 00:01:23,400 Did the U.S. offer to assist the Algerians in this mission? 33 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,066 Mr. Carney: Well, I can say that we're in contact with Algerian 34 00:01:26,066 --> 00:01:27,700 authorities and our international partners. 35 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:31,133 I don't have anything more on that context for you. 36 00:01:31,133 --> 00:01:32,433 I mean, this is a situation, as you know, 37 00:01:32,433 --> 00:01:39,300 that involved a BP facility with, as we understand it, 38 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:41,633 personnel from a variety of different countries. 39 00:01:41,633 --> 00:01:43,533 The Press: But in those conversations with the Algerians, 40 00:01:43,533 --> 00:01:46,867 has there been discussion about what role the U.S. could play? 41 00:01:46,867 --> 00:01:49,633 Any offers of assistance? 42 00:01:49,633 --> 00:01:51,767 Mr. Carney: Not that I'm aware of. 43 00:01:51,767 --> 00:01:55,567 But I just don't have details to provide on those conversations. 44 00:01:55,567 --> 00:01:58,600 This is an ongoing situation and we're seeking clarity. 45 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,667 The Press: And just quickly on the President's gun violence 46 00:02:00,667 --> 00:02:03,166 proposals from yesterday, he said he would put the full 47 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:05,667 weight of the office behind efforts to push for those 48 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:07,700 measures, and I'm wondering what that actually means. 49 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:08,934 Will we see him travel? 50 00:02:08,934 --> 00:02:10,699 Will we see him get OFA involved? 51 00:02:10,699 --> 00:02:14,166 There was obviously an email from Messina today on this. 52 00:02:14,166 --> 00:02:15,934 Mr. Carney: Well, I think as you saw, that email went out, 53 00:02:15,934 --> 00:02:18,033 and I think that the President meant what he said. 54 00:02:18,033 --> 00:02:19,700 I don't have a schedule of events for you, 55 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:24,232 a schedule of actions or a strategy to lay out to you. 56 00:02:24,233 --> 00:02:27,300 But the President absolutely meant what he said, 57 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:30,200 that he is going to put the weight of his office behind 58 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,266 this effort. 59 00:02:31,266 --> 00:02:34,966 He also meant what he said when he acknowledged that achieving 60 00:02:34,967 --> 00:02:39,033 these proposals will be difficult. 61 00:02:39,033 --> 00:02:46,132 If having an assault weapons ban become law again were easy it 62 00:02:46,133 --> 00:02:47,166 would never have expired. 63 00:02:47,166 --> 00:02:51,734 If the variety of other actions that the President proposes we 64 00:02:51,734 --> 00:02:57,367 take as a nation were without conflict we wouldn't be having 65 00:02:57,367 --> 00:02:58,367 this discussion. 66 00:02:58,367 --> 00:03:01,934 So he's made clear that it requires everyone coming 67 00:03:01,934 --> 00:03:06,934 together, including people who have not traditionally supported 68 00:03:06,934 --> 00:03:09,500 the idea of taking further action to reduce gun violence or 69 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:10,500 some of these ideas. 70 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:12,066 We've already heard a number of voices, 71 00:03:12,066 --> 00:03:17,467 from both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party of 72 00:03:17,467 --> 00:03:20,767 individuals who've said they are looking at this problem in a new 73 00:03:20,767 --> 00:03:23,667 way because of what happened in Newtown, 74 00:03:23,667 --> 00:03:25,867 and that's very important to this process. 75 00:03:25,867 --> 00:03:27,466 It's also very important, as the President said, 76 00:03:27,467 --> 00:03:29,133 that the American public speak out, 77 00:03:29,133 --> 00:03:34,033 because we cannot achieve this if the American people don't 78 00:03:34,033 --> 00:03:35,033 demand it. 79 00:03:35,033 --> 00:03:37,899 And so, as I think I mentioned earlier in the week, 80 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:43,567 you can fully expect that as part of this effort we will 81 00:03:43,567 --> 00:03:46,100 continue to try to engage the American people and have their 82 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:51,033 voices heard and their concerns heard and their demands heard 83 00:03:51,033 --> 00:03:54,666 when it comes to taking common-sense action to reduce 84 00:03:54,667 --> 00:03:56,467 gun violence in America. 85 00:03:56,467 --> 00:03:58,700 The Press: But at this point, no specifics about what that 86 00:03:58,700 --> 00:03:59,966 actually entails? 87 00:03:59,967 --> 00:04:02,033 Mr. Carney: I don't have any -- I mean, again, 88 00:04:02,033 --> 00:04:03,566 he just made this announcement yesterday. 89 00:04:03,567 --> 00:04:06,567 He has a piece of business to take care of on Monday, 90 00:04:06,567 --> 00:04:08,767 and a whole host of other matters. 91 00:04:08,767 --> 00:04:12,500 But this is a priority, as I think he made very clear 92 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:18,300 yesterday, and there will be more to come. 93 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:22,867 The Press: Jay, going back to Algeria, was the Algerian government in touch 94 00:04:22,867 --> 00:04:26,867 with the United States before the raid? 95 00:04:26,867 --> 00:04:31,233 Mr. Carney: I can simply say that it's premature to get into these 96 00:04:31,233 --> 00:04:32,633 types of questions. 97 00:04:32,633 --> 00:04:35,633 Right now our priority is determining the status of the 98 00:04:35,633 --> 00:04:37,734 Americans involved and gaining a full understanding of 99 00:04:37,734 --> 00:04:38,734 what took place. 100 00:04:38,734 --> 00:04:40,700 As I said to Julie, this is a fluid situation. 101 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:45,467 We are seeking clarity from the Algerian government about this 102 00:04:45,467 --> 00:04:50,265 matter, and obviously, we are focused most intently on the 103 00:04:50,266 --> 00:04:53,166 status of Americans. 104 00:04:53,166 --> 00:04:56,033 We are in conversations with -- consultation with the Algerian 105 00:04:56,033 --> 00:04:59,200 government, but I just don't have any more details for you. 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,900 The Press: I mean, you said that you were in consultations. 107 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:03,433 I'm just curious if you were in consultations before the raid. 108 00:05:03,433 --> 00:05:05,599 Mr. Carney: Again, I just don't have any more details for you on that. 109 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,767 This is a fluid situation. 110 00:05:06,767 --> 00:05:10,567 I wouldn't want to say something that turned out not to be true, 111 00:05:10,567 --> 00:05:13,200 so I'll leave it at that. 112 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,000 The Press: What is the U.S. assessment of -- 113 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:16,433 Mr. Carney: Jackie got that -- I appreciate it. 114 00:05:16,433 --> 00:05:19,633 (laughter) 115 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:23,099 The Press: What is the U.S. assessment of al Qaeda's link to this? 116 00:05:23,100 --> 00:05:28,533 Mr. Carney: We certainly heard reports of people taking responsibility, 117 00:05:28,533 --> 00:05:31,200 claims -- making claims of responsibility for this 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,967 terrorist attack, but we have not been able to, thus far, 119 00:05:34,967 --> 00:05:36,933 confirm those claims. 120 00:05:36,934 --> 00:05:39,100 The Press: But is that something that the U.S. is involved in, 121 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:40,767 in trying to figure that out? 122 00:05:40,767 --> 00:05:41,767 Mr. Carney: Certainly. 123 00:05:41,767 --> 00:05:44,600 As a broad matter, we're obviously very interested in and 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,467 focused on terrorist groups and terrorist actions in the region 125 00:05:48,467 --> 00:05:51,066 and around the world, and so trying to find out who's 126 00:05:51,066 --> 00:05:55,566 responsible for something like this is something we are 127 00:05:55,567 --> 00:05:57,000 endeavoring to do. 128 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,867 But we just have not -- I don't have information now that allows 129 00:06:00,867 --> 00:06:03,700 me to confirm or rebut those reports. 130 00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:06,300 The Press: You said earlier in the week that the United States would 131 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:09,000 consider providing logistical support to France and Mali. 132 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,900 How does this development affect that? 133 00:06:12,900 --> 00:06:14,000 Mr. Carney: Well, I'm not sure that it does. 134 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,834 I mean, we share the goal -- the French goal of denying 135 00:06:17,834 --> 00:06:21,633 terrorists in Mali a safe haven, denying terrorists in the region 136 00:06:21,633 --> 00:06:26,066 a safe haven, and we'd note that the government of Mali has asked 137 00:06:26,066 --> 00:06:30,700 for French support in their fight against AQIM. 138 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:33,500 As you know, the government of France has asked for some 139 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:35,967 additional intelligence and logistic support from the United 140 00:06:35,967 --> 00:06:38,166 States and, as I said the other day, 141 00:06:38,166 --> 00:06:39,700 we're considering those requests. 142 00:06:39,700 --> 00:06:42,567 We have some unique airlift capability and we are working 143 00:06:42,567 --> 00:06:44,800 with the French to provide them support in moving troops 144 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,000 and equipment. 145 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,100 As we've said previously, we are also providing 146 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:49,667 intelligence support. 147 00:06:49,667 --> 00:06:51,200 The Press: All right, just briefly on one other topic. 148 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,033 You mentioned that the President has an event on Monday. 149 00:06:54,033 --> 00:06:57,967 Can you give us any color about how he's preparing for his 150 00:06:57,967 --> 00:07:02,933 speech, and any little tidbits about what he might say? 151 00:07:02,934 --> 00:07:07,667 Mr. Carney: I have no preview of his remarks. 152 00:07:07,667 --> 00:07:15,400 The President I think is very appreciative of the fact that 153 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,500 the American people have given him this opportunity to deliver 154 00:07:19,500 --> 00:07:22,567 a second inaugural address. 155 00:07:22,567 --> 00:07:29,266 He, as you know, takes very seriously speeches of this kind 156 00:07:29,266 --> 00:07:31,467 and is very engaged in the process. 157 00:07:31,467 --> 00:07:33,467 He's working on his remarks. 158 00:07:33,467 --> 00:07:35,032 But I don't have any details for you. 159 00:07:35,033 --> 00:07:39,133 I think it's the kind of thing we really want to turn over to 160 00:07:39,133 --> 00:07:42,532 him for Monday. 161 00:07:42,533 --> 00:07:44,734 The Press: Is that open coverage on Monday? 162 00:07:44,734 --> 00:07:46,000 (laughter) 163 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,133 Mr. Carney: Yes, it is. 164 00:07:47,133 --> 00:07:49,233 The Press: Jay, what do you say to the local officials, 165 00:07:49,233 --> 00:07:51,100 including the governor of Mississippi, 166 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:55,333 who are suggesting that if you succeed in getting new laws 167 00:07:55,333 --> 00:08:00,300 passed they won't enforce them on the gun issue? 168 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:03,500 Mr. Carney: Well, I didn't see those particular remarks, John. 169 00:08:03,500 --> 00:08:07,700 There are a variety of actions that the President has proposed. 170 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:11,166 Some of them are executive actions. 171 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:12,467 Some of the most important of them, 172 00:08:12,467 --> 00:08:14,967 as the President made clear, require congressional action. 173 00:08:14,967 --> 00:08:19,599 And I'll leave it to lawyers to sort out, 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,066 if we are fortunate enough to achieve these pieces of 175 00:08:22,066 --> 00:08:26,734 legislation, how those laws would be enforced. 176 00:08:26,734 --> 00:08:28,400 But let's be clear here. 177 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,633 There is nothing the President proposed yesterday that would 178 00:08:31,633 --> 00:08:37,100 result, if enacted, in anyone -- any law-abiding citizen in 179 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,100 America losing a gun. 180 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:43,767 The President made clear yesterday his full support for 181 00:08:43,767 --> 00:08:45,834 the Second Amendment and the Second Amendment rights of 182 00:08:45,834 --> 00:08:48,032 American citizens. 183 00:08:48,033 --> 00:08:51,800 He also made clear that we have an obligation, 184 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,666 and American citizens, including our most vulnerable, 185 00:08:54,667 --> 00:08:57,367 youngest American citizens, have rights, too. 186 00:08:57,367 --> 00:08:59,300 And we have an obligation to uphold those rights, 187 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:09,065 including the rights of seven-year-olds to live without 188 00:09:09,066 --> 00:09:11,433 the fear of being gunned down in their own school. 189 00:09:11,433 --> 00:09:14,834 So we as a society need to come together and take common-sense 190 00:09:14,834 --> 00:09:20,834 actions that do not affect Americans' Second Amendment 191 00:09:20,834 --> 00:09:22,900 rights, which the President supports, 192 00:09:22,900 --> 00:09:30,667 but do put in place laws and actions that address this 193 00:09:30,667 --> 00:09:35,533 problem; that, for example, provide for a system of 194 00:09:35,533 --> 00:09:39,200 background checks for those who would purchase weapons that is 195 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:45,233 comprehensive, that does not contain gaping loopholes. 196 00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:49,199 That's something that a vast majority of the American people 197 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,400 believe is sensible and they support. 198 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:57,667 And the President sincerely hopes that that support, 199 00:09:57,667 --> 00:09:59,500 which comes from around the country, 200 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,367 that comes from Democrats and Republicans, 201 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:06,599 that comes from NRA members, sportsmen and women, 202 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:11,300 from suburban areas, rural areas and urban areas, 203 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:16,000 will result in Congress taking appropriate action. 204 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,066 The Press: So what happens to the, by some estimates, 205 00:10:19,066 --> 00:10:24,734 2 million assault-style weapons that are out there now and more? 206 00:10:24,734 --> 00:10:26,867 What happens to those after a ban? 207 00:10:26,867 --> 00:10:28,632 Is this a ban on -- 208 00:10:28,633 --> 00:10:30,266 Mr. Carney: This is not -- 209 00:10:30,266 --> 00:10:31,467 The Press: -- the old ones are grandfathered in? 210 00:10:31,467 --> 00:10:32,699 It's a ban on -- 211 00:10:32,700 --> 00:10:35,900 Mr. Carney: Yes, this is a ban on further manufacture, on new weapons. 212 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:39,165 The Press: So how effective can something like that be, given that the -- 213 00:10:39,166 --> 00:10:41,400 I mean, look at the sales that are going on even now. 214 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Mr. Carney: Well, I think the President said that there is no question -- 215 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,000 that there's no single piece of legislation, 216 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,734 no single action that we can take that would eradicate all 217 00:10:50,734 --> 00:10:52,533 acts of evil, all acts of violence, 218 00:10:52,533 --> 00:10:57,433 that would absolutely prevent every terrible shooting in 219 00:10:57,433 --> 00:10:58,433 the future. 220 00:10:58,433 --> 00:11:00,233 We know that, and the President is aware of that. 221 00:11:00,233 --> 00:11:05,666 But we should take actions that reduce the possibility; 222 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:09,100 that through the reduction in the possibility of the kinds of 223 00:11:09,100 --> 00:11:13,133 things we saw in Newtown and Aurora and Columbine and 224 00:11:13,133 --> 00:11:16,066 elsewhere, lives are saved. 225 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:19,600 And we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good here. 226 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,266 We can't let the fact that there will of course continue to be 227 00:11:23,266 --> 00:11:27,834 gun violence in America prevent us from taking actions to reduce 228 00:11:27,834 --> 00:11:32,967 gun violence in America, taking actions to make sure that we are 229 00:11:32,967 --> 00:11:36,633 doing everything we can to live up to our first obligation, 230 00:11:36,633 --> 00:11:41,033 which is to protect our children. 231 00:11:41,033 --> 00:11:43,967 There's no single action here that solves this problem. 232 00:11:43,967 --> 00:11:48,367 Even this collection of actions won't solve the problem. 233 00:11:48,367 --> 00:11:55,099 But it will, the President believes, reduce gun violence, 234 00:11:55,100 --> 00:11:58,633 and that's a worthy goal. 235 00:11:58,633 --> 00:12:00,467 The Press: And with the high-capacity magazines, 236 00:12:00,467 --> 00:12:03,467 the same thing holds true, that that would just prevent -- 237 00:12:03,467 --> 00:12:06,367 ban the manufacture of new -- 238 00:12:06,367 --> 00:12:07,367 Mr. Carney: That's my understanding. 239 00:12:07,367 --> 00:12:11,266 I think we provided a bunch of fact sheets and stuff yesterday 240 00:12:11,266 --> 00:12:13,867 on the details, but that is my understanding. 241 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:17,033 But I would encourage you to look at the stuff that the 242 00:12:17,033 --> 00:12:19,467 policy people put together and provided to you yesterday. 243 00:12:19,467 --> 00:12:22,233 The Press: And then just two questions on how you go about getting this 244 00:12:22,233 --> 00:12:25,433 passed -- the obvious uphill battle you face in Congress -- 245 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:28,967 one, that the grassroots campaign Robert Gibbs is 246 00:12:28,967 --> 00:12:32,667 suggesting, that the great campaign apparatus that helped 247 00:12:32,667 --> 00:12:36,467 the President win reelection should now be activated full 248 00:12:36,467 --> 00:12:37,900 force on this. 249 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:38,900 Will it be? 250 00:12:38,900 --> 00:12:42,000 And will the President be reaching out personally to -- 251 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,367 that there are 11 Democrats in the Senate with either an A or B 252 00:12:45,367 --> 00:12:46,467 rating to the NRA. 253 00:12:46,467 --> 00:12:48,467 Is he going to be talking individually to each of those 254 00:12:48,467 --> 00:12:49,667 Democratic senators? 255 00:12:49,667 --> 00:12:51,533 Mr. Carney: I think you can expect the President to be engaged with 256 00:12:51,533 --> 00:12:54,333 members of Congress, including Democratic senators. 257 00:12:54,333 --> 00:12:56,233 I think as you saw in the wake of Newtown, 258 00:12:56,233 --> 00:12:59,065 the President actually spoke with some Democratic senators 259 00:12:59,066 --> 00:13:01,734 about this issue, including Senator Manchin of 260 00:13:01,734 --> 00:13:03,266 West Virginia. 261 00:13:03,266 --> 00:13:05,533 Those conversations will continue. 262 00:13:05,533 --> 00:13:09,066 And I have no specific announcement to make about next 263 00:13:09,066 --> 00:13:11,166 steps in this effort. 264 00:13:11,166 --> 00:13:14,500 But you can be sure that the President will use the power of 265 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:23,100 his office to try to bring about fulfillment of these proposals, 266 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:24,633 because he thinks they're the right things to do, 267 00:13:24,633 --> 00:13:27,433 and he thinks that we as a nation need to move forward, 268 00:13:27,433 --> 00:13:33,867 and that we can take steps that help reduce gun violence in this 269 00:13:33,867 --> 00:13:37,367 country and help protect our children, 270 00:13:37,367 --> 00:13:40,867 including our youngest children. 271 00:13:40,867 --> 00:13:42,599 I'll move around a little bit. 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,600 Jackie. 273 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,500 The Press: Could you just expand a little more on the Inaugural on Sunday? 274 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:50,533 I mean, it sounds like it's going to be just family. 275 00:13:50,533 --> 00:13:51,533 Mr. Carney: I can try. 276 00:13:51,533 --> 00:13:54,533 The Press: Could you say exactly who is going to be there; 277 00:13:54,533 --> 00:14:00,700 that it will be no advisors or -- and why that is? 278 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:04,033 Mr. Carney: It's a small room, and -- 279 00:14:04,033 --> 00:14:05,967 The Press: But you could choose another room. 280 00:14:05,967 --> 00:14:09,867 Mr. Carney: Well, I think it's -- this is the official swearing-in, 281 00:14:09,867 --> 00:14:12,165 as called for by the Constitution. 282 00:14:12,166 --> 00:14:19,033 And the Chief Justice will swear in the President. 283 00:14:19,033 --> 00:14:20,433 I gave some details. 284 00:14:20,433 --> 00:14:22,400 I think we corrected about the Bible that will be used 285 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,867 on Sunday. 286 00:14:23,867 --> 00:14:24,934 It will be family. 287 00:14:24,934 --> 00:14:28,233 I don't have a list of names for which family members 288 00:14:28,233 --> 00:14:29,300 will be there. 289 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:32,567 There will be a full press pool there. 290 00:14:32,567 --> 00:14:36,734 And that's a pretty large group, with a lot of equipment. 291 00:14:36,734 --> 00:14:37,734 And I'll be there. 292 00:14:37,734 --> 00:14:41,433 The Press: But it will be more presumably than just Mrs. Obama and the 293 00:14:41,433 --> 00:14:42,600 daughters and the President? 294 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,033 Mr. Carney: I believe there will be some family members, 295 00:14:44,033 --> 00:14:46,967 but I don't have -- I'll see if I have -- 296 00:14:46,967 --> 00:14:49,367 if I can get information on which additional members 297 00:14:49,367 --> 00:14:50,367 will be there. 298 00:14:50,367 --> 00:14:52,333 The Press: And then at the dinner affair afterwards, 299 00:14:52,333 --> 00:14:55,834 who would be involved? 300 00:14:55,834 --> 00:14:57,065 Mr. Carney: I'm sorry, which affair? 301 00:14:57,066 --> 00:15:00,700 The Press: On Sunday, after the private swearing-in. 302 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:02,467 Mr. Carney: I'll have to check on that. 303 00:15:02,467 --> 00:15:03,467 I'm not sure. 304 00:15:03,467 --> 00:15:07,066 There's a series of events, but I'm not sure which one you're 305 00:15:07,066 --> 00:15:08,433 referring to. 306 00:15:08,433 --> 00:15:10,266 The Press: Well, just what he will be -- 307 00:15:10,266 --> 00:15:12,900 Mr. Carney: What's he going to do after he's sworn in? 308 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:15,367 The Press: -- participating in immediately after he's sworn in. 309 00:15:15,367 --> 00:15:17,333 Mr. Carney: I'll try to find out. 310 00:15:17,333 --> 00:15:19,567 The Press: There have been several news reports about an incident 311 00:15:19,567 --> 00:15:20,567 in Syria. 312 00:15:20,567 --> 00:15:22,867 December 23rd, six people died from some sort of gas attack. 313 00:15:22,867 --> 00:15:26,567 Several people on the ground seem to believe that it was a 314 00:15:26,567 --> 00:15:28,000 chemical agent. 315 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,433 The State Department did a couple of investigations. 316 00:15:30,433 --> 00:15:31,667 They couldn't corroborate that. 317 00:15:31,667 --> 00:15:34,433 On Tuesday, the White House put out a statement saying only that 318 00:15:34,433 --> 00:15:36,600 it didn't match what you know about Syria's chemical 319 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,600 weapons program. 320 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,233 They didn't say what you think happened that day. 321 00:15:39,233 --> 00:15:42,233 And I'm also wondering, are you 100% sure that no chemical 322 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:44,766 weapons have been used in Syria? 323 00:15:44,767 --> 00:15:46,967 Mr. Carney: The State Department addressed this issue yesterday. 324 00:15:46,967 --> 00:15:50,100 One of our diplomatic posts received anecdotal information 325 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:52,934 from a third party regarding an alleged incident in Syria 326 00:15:52,934 --> 00:15:54,165 in December. 327 00:15:54,166 --> 00:15:57,300 Per normal procedure, this information was relayed to the 328 00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:59,065 State Department in Washington. 329 00:15:59,066 --> 00:16:01,800 We looked into these allegations at the time we received the 330 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,099 information, and found no credible evidence to corroborate 331 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:09,200 or confirm that chemical weapons were used. 332 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,834 We continue to closely monitor Syria's proliferation of 333 00:16:11,834 --> 00:16:14,132 sensitive materials and facilities, 334 00:16:14,133 --> 00:16:16,600 and have been consistent and clear about our red lines 335 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,567 regarding chemical weapons in Syria. 336 00:16:18,567 --> 00:16:21,300 As the President said, if the Assad regime makes the tragic 337 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:24,400 mistake of using chemical weapons or fails to meet its 338 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,400 obligation to secure them, they will be held accountable. 339 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,066 In other words, we received third-party information. 340 00:16:30,066 --> 00:16:33,033 We checked it out and found no credible evidence to corroborate 341 00:16:33,033 --> 00:16:34,033 or confirm it. 342 00:16:34,033 --> 00:16:36,400 The Press: Of course, the problem is that this evidence is unattainable 343 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,500 inside Homs. 344 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:41,734 And use of chemical agents is notoriously hard to verify. 345 00:16:41,734 --> 00:16:43,233 What is your level of confidence that -- 346 00:16:43,233 --> 00:16:45,400 Mr. Carney: Again, we found no credible evidence, 347 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:51,100 and the fact that a third party provided this anecdotal 348 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:57,533 information led to us checking it out appropriately, 349 00:16:57,533 --> 00:17:00,200 and we found no credible information that would 350 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,200 confirm it. 351 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,200 The Press: My question is -- 352 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Mr. Carney: But your question is -- 353 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,165 The Press: What is your level of confidence that if a chemical agent was 354 00:17:06,165 --> 00:17:09,066 used, that you would be able to tell? 355 00:17:09,066 --> 00:17:13,165 Mr. Carney: Well, again, I'm not able from here to discuss the procedures 356 00:17:13,165 --> 00:17:15,867 by which we evaluate these kinds of things. 357 00:17:15,867 --> 00:17:18,867 But I can tell you that we found no credible evidence, 358 00:17:18,867 --> 00:17:26,000 and we are -- we remain, as we have been throughout, 359 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,000 vigilant about this issue and very clear with the Assad regime 360 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,200 about our red lines. 361 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,200 The Press: Jay, on Algeria, can you just talk about the President's level 362 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,200 of involvement in this? 363 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,200 I didn't catch that earlier, in terms of -- 364 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,533 has he been working the phones? 365 00:17:39,533 --> 00:17:41,867 Is he being briefed regularly since so many Americans 366 00:17:41,867 --> 00:17:42,867 are involved? 367 00:17:42,867 --> 00:17:44,734 What is the President's level of engagement? 368 00:17:44,734 --> 00:17:46,966 Mr. Carney: Well, the President has been updated regularly by his 369 00:17:46,967 --> 00:17:48,900 national security team on this matter. 370 00:17:48,900 --> 00:17:51,500 As you would expect, I have no other details for you, 371 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:52,500 no calls to read out. 372 00:17:52,500 --> 00:17:55,734 But we are, as an administration, 373 00:17:55,734 --> 00:17:59,233 in contact with the Algerian government and seeking clarity 374 00:17:59,233 --> 00:18:01,000 about the events that have been reported. 375 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,233 And as you know, there's been a variety of conflicting reports 376 00:18:04,233 --> 00:18:07,300 about the events there. 377 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:11,500 So we are in communication with the Algerian government, 378 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:13,667 and the President is being regularly updated. 379 00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:17,332 The Press: The Secretary of State yesterday spoke to the head of their 380 00:18:17,333 --> 00:18:19,033 government, I believe, but there's been no calls between 381 00:18:19,033 --> 00:18:20,367 the President and -- 382 00:18:20,367 --> 00:18:23,200 Mr. Carney: I have no calls of the President to read out to you. 383 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:24,200 The Press: Okay. 384 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,300 Following on John about guns, when the President has traveled 385 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:27,567 on other issues like payroll tax cut or other things to engage 386 00:18:27,567 --> 00:18:30,000 the American public, as you say, he's mostly been pressuring 387 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,233 the Republicans. 388 00:18:31,233 --> 00:18:33,500 How -- as you mentioned after Newtown, 389 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:36,200 he spoke to Senator Manchin, and at that time in December, 390 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,000 Senator Manchin was suggesting he was open to the idea of an 391 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,000 assault weapons ban. 392 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,900 This past weekend he seemed to suggest he wasn't. 393 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:45,400 Yesterday, Al Franken, who is a more liberal Democrat, 394 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,133 kind of hesitated about whether he supported the assault weapons 395 00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:50,767 ban; today he says he supports the principle of it -- 396 00:18:50,767 --> 00:18:52,967 not making clear he supports the bill. 397 00:18:52,967 --> 00:18:55,834 My question is: You've pressured Republicans before; 398 00:18:55,834 --> 00:18:58,734 what is going to do different this time to convince his fellow 399 00:18:58,734 --> 00:19:01,233 Democrats who are the swing votes here that this is the 400 00:19:01,233 --> 00:19:02,300 right thing to do? 401 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:05,367 Mr. Carney: He's been very clear about this as recently as yesterday, 402 00:19:05,367 --> 00:19:11,466 which he believes we all need to reflect upon the problem, 403 00:19:11,467 --> 00:19:14,967 examine our consciences, and decide what the right course of 404 00:19:14,967 --> 00:19:20,834 action is, and decide whether or not common-sense measures that 405 00:19:20,834 --> 00:19:26,767 help protect our most vulnerable citizens, our children, 406 00:19:26,767 --> 00:19:28,266 from gun violence are the right thing to do. 407 00:19:28,266 --> 00:19:29,400 He firmly believes they are, and he'll be having that 408 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:30,400 conversation with Republicans and Democrats and with Americans 409 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:31,400 more broadly. 410 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:47,767 Again, I think that we've seen some change in the atmosphere 411 00:19:47,767 --> 00:19:51,400 around this issue since the tragedy in Newtown, 412 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:58,467 and we've seen some gun rights supporters who haven't abandoned 413 00:19:58,467 --> 00:20:02,133 their support for gun rights, just as the President has not, 414 00:20:02,133 --> 00:20:05,400 but who view this issue now in a different way and believe that 415 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,300 common-sense action is the right way to go. 416 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:09,867 And the President hopes to build on that. 417 00:20:09,867 --> 00:20:15,033 But he made very clear yesterday that he understands that this is 418 00:20:15,033 --> 00:20:19,265 a challenge. 419 00:20:19,266 --> 00:20:21,834 These things aren't law -- at least the things that he's 420 00:20:21,834 --> 00:20:24,700 proposed Congress pass -- because they're hard. 421 00:20:24,700 --> 00:20:26,066 If they weren't, they would be law. 422 00:20:26,066 --> 00:20:31,266 And he will work with members of both parties to try to 423 00:20:31,266 --> 00:20:32,567 get them passed. 424 00:20:32,567 --> 00:20:35,000 The Press: But when you repeat today the full weight of the presidency -- 425 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,667 yesterday I went back to the transcript and the word 426 00:20:36,667 --> 00:20:39,899 "Hollywood" was never used by the President or the Vice 427 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:41,166 President in remarks yesterday. 428 00:20:41,166 --> 00:20:42,899 Obviously, guns are a big part here, 429 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:45,467 but why not also take on Hollywood? 430 00:20:45,467 --> 00:20:46,834 He's taking on the NRA. 431 00:20:46,834 --> 00:20:48,467 If this is the full weight of the presidency, 432 00:20:48,467 --> 00:20:49,467 why not take on -- 433 00:20:49,467 --> 00:20:53,266 Mr. Carney: Well, he's directed as part of the actions he took that the CDC 434 00:20:53,266 --> 00:20:56,900 study gun violence and causes of gun violence. 435 00:20:56,900 --> 00:21:06,100 I mean, there's a -- ignorance is not an acceptable position to 436 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,632 adopt, that it's better not to know. 437 00:21:07,633 --> 00:21:09,433 We need to know and it's worth studying, 438 00:21:09,433 --> 00:21:15,400 and we should embrace the science and allow the research 439 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,567 to go forward so we can learn more about the effect of 440 00:21:20,567 --> 00:21:24,500 violence in the entertainment industry -- 441 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:27,033 depicted through entertainment -- 442 00:21:27,033 --> 00:21:31,533 and the impact it may or may not have on society and on children. 443 00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:34,699 So that was a very specific item that he did include as part of 444 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:36,400 his package. 445 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,867 And I think generally, the proposals the President put 446 00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:47,332 forward yesterday were recognized as fairly substantive 447 00:21:47,333 --> 00:21:49,834 and comprehensive, and that's one of them. 448 00:21:49,834 --> 00:21:51,266 The Press: Very last thing, on the debt ceiling. 449 00:21:51,266 --> 00:21:54,166 Republicans like Pat Toomey have suggested that you should 450 00:21:54,166 --> 00:21:57,833 prioritize what debts you pay off so that things like Social 451 00:21:57,834 --> 00:21:59,433 Security get paid -- payments. 452 00:21:59,433 --> 00:22:02,300 As the President said in his press conference last week, 453 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:05,966 he wants them to be paid; wants to make sure people don't lose 454 00:22:05,967 --> 00:22:06,967 their benefits. 455 00:22:06,967 --> 00:22:07,967 Why not prioritize those payments? 456 00:22:07,967 --> 00:22:11,567 I just want to give you a chance to respond to the Republican 457 00:22:11,567 --> 00:22:13,533 plan that's out there. 458 00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,533 Mr. Carney: Sure. 459 00:22:14,533 --> 00:22:15,533 Well, there's not a specific plan; 460 00:22:15,533 --> 00:22:16,899 there's somebody talking about it. 461 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:18,333 But let's be real here. 462 00:22:18,333 --> 00:22:19,934 There is no off-ramp. 463 00:22:19,934 --> 00:22:24,166 There is no way to mitigate the horrific economic consequences 464 00:22:24,166 --> 00:22:25,633 of default. 465 00:22:25,633 --> 00:22:30,300 Choosing whether you pay Social Security beneficiaries or combat 466 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:37,867 troops in Afghanistan, or veterans who depend on the VA 467 00:22:37,867 --> 00:22:44,533 for benefits, or bondholders -- these are choices that are 468 00:22:44,533 --> 00:22:45,899 about default. 469 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:51,133 And the fact is default is not an acceptable option here. 470 00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:55,100 Congress has to simply do its job and pay the bills that 471 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:58,132 they've already racked up, meet the obligations that they have 472 00:22:58,133 --> 00:22:59,800 already made. 473 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:06,700 And then we continue to debate how we move forward to reduce 474 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:10,767 our deficit in a balanced way, how we move forward to get our 475 00:23:10,767 --> 00:23:16,834 health care spending under control and reform our 476 00:23:16,834 --> 00:23:18,066 tax system. 477 00:23:18,066 --> 00:23:23,166 But we cannot play chicken with the full faith and credit of the 478 00:23:23,166 --> 00:23:24,166 United States. 479 00:23:24,166 --> 00:23:32,265 We have seen in recent days and weeks a number of Republicans 480 00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:37,066 and a number of interest groups allied with Republicans make 481 00:23:37,066 --> 00:23:41,166 clear their position that flirting with default is a 482 00:23:41,166 --> 00:23:48,133 disastrous idea, it is a terrible idea. 483 00:23:48,133 --> 00:23:50,033 And we certainly agree with that. 484 00:23:50,033 --> 00:23:53,300 And I think you've seen it now from a number of places, 485 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:59,066 and the President has made clear he's not going to negotiate over 486 00:23:59,066 --> 00:24:00,133 raising the debt ceiling. 487 00:24:00,133 --> 00:24:03,533 It is an obligation that Congress retains for itself. 488 00:24:03,533 --> 00:24:08,433 If it feels it can't handle it, we would happily, 489 00:24:08,433 --> 00:24:12,300 as the President said, take that obligation on to the 490 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:14,834 executive branch. 491 00:24:14,834 --> 00:24:16,867 But we have to pay our bills. 492 00:24:16,867 --> 00:24:18,100 We're the United States of America; 493 00:24:18,100 --> 00:24:25,833 we are not a third-tier economy that goes month to month or 494 00:24:25,834 --> 00:24:29,900 every half year and casting doubt on whether or not we're 495 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:30,967 going to meet our obligations. 496 00:24:30,967 --> 00:24:33,033 That's not who we are. 497 00:24:33,033 --> 00:24:34,934 Major, then Alexis. 498 00:24:34,934 --> 00:24:37,899 The Press: As you noted, Jay, the situation in Algeria is very fluid and you 499 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,533 are trying to discern fact from fiction. 500 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:43,466 Once that process is finished, does the President intend to 501 00:24:43,467 --> 00:24:46,100 communicate with the country about what he knows and what 502 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:47,399 has happened? 503 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,300 Mr. Carney: Well, I think -- I have no scheduling announcements to make 504 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:53,433 on behalf of the President, and I think we're focused now on 505 00:24:53,433 --> 00:24:56,200 finding out and seeking clarity about the events in Algeria. 506 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,667 And once we know more and once we have more that we can convey 507 00:25:01,667 --> 00:25:04,966 to you, we'll make assessments based on that. 508 00:25:04,967 --> 00:25:08,567 The Press: Does the White House believe that there is something at work 509 00:25:08,567 --> 00:25:11,867 in Mali or Algeria that is moving or shifting in a way 510 00:25:11,867 --> 00:25:14,867 that's maybe catching the American public's attention for 511 00:25:14,867 --> 00:25:15,899 the first time? 512 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,200 Threat patterns? 513 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,400 Different areas of conflict? 514 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,467 An aggressiveness on al Qaeda or affiliates that needs perhaps 515 00:25:24,467 --> 00:25:26,133 more communication with the American public, 516 00:25:26,133 --> 00:25:30,834 a greater sense of what's actually going on here? 517 00:25:30,834 --> 00:25:33,367 Mr. Carney: We here in the White House and throughout the administration 518 00:25:33,367 --> 00:25:38,800 are intensely focused on al Qaeda and its affiliates. 519 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,966 I think that has been made abundantly clear by the actions 520 00:25:42,967 --> 00:25:46,900 that we've taken, and that continues to be the case. 521 00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:52,834 We work with our allies to counter the activities of AQIM; 522 00:25:52,834 --> 00:25:54,066 and clearly, AQIM and affiliated extremist groups do pose a 523 00:25:54,066 --> 00:26:01,734 threat to our interests in that region, 524 00:26:01,734 --> 00:26:04,332 even if they have not posed a direct threat to the homeland, 525 00:26:04,333 --> 00:26:08,033 like al Qaeda central in Afghanistan and Pakistan, 526 00:26:08,033 --> 00:26:11,934 or al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. 527 00:26:11,934 --> 00:26:15,899 But this is something -- this is a multi-headed beast, 528 00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:25,767 if you will, and we are vigorous in our efforts to combat 529 00:26:25,767 --> 00:26:29,467 organizations like this and work with our allies to do so around 530 00:26:29,467 --> 00:26:31,066 the region and the world. 531 00:26:31,066 --> 00:26:32,767 The Press: On the question of gun legislation, 532 00:26:32,767 --> 00:26:36,200 it was made clear to us in the briefing yesterday that the 533 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,033 White House will not send a comprehensive bill that contains 534 00:26:39,033 --> 00:26:41,332 all of gun control measures to Capitol Hill. 535 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:45,100 It will defer to, in the case of the assault weapons ban and 536 00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:48,867 magazine size, Senator Feinstein, 537 00:26:48,867 --> 00:26:51,899 Senator Schumer on one aspect of it; 538 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,066 Senator Gillibrand to another. 539 00:26:53,066 --> 00:26:55,400 And there are some House Democrats who would prefer just 540 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,000 the opposite approach -- a comprehensive bill, one vote, 541 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,200 one package to concentrate the mind of the American public and 542 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,700 to achieve a better legislative result. 543 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,667 Can you explain to us the strategic insight the White 544 00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:08,000 House has as to why it's better that the White House not to 545 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,900 write it and send it up in one comprehensive bill? 546 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:12,000 Mr. Carney: Well, I'd answer it two ways. 547 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,800 One, some of the legislation that we are talking about here, 548 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,367 specifically the legislation that has to do with the assault 549 00:27:18,367 --> 00:27:23,700 weapons and with high-capacity ammunition clips preexisted, 550 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:27,166 and Senator Feinstein has done a lot of work on these issues and 551 00:27:27,166 --> 00:27:31,200 is working, and we are working with her to develop updated 552 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,000 legislation that addresses these matters. 553 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,667 And so that -- we believe that's the appropriate way to go. 554 00:27:37,667 --> 00:27:41,667 How this plays out legislatively is obviously hard to know, 555 00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:47,533 and I would point you to experts on the Hill about how it will in 556 00:27:47,533 --> 00:27:48,667 both the Senate and the House. 557 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:53,766 Our interest is in moving this entire package in a way that is 558 00:27:53,767 --> 00:27:55,100 most successful. 559 00:27:55,100 --> 00:28:00,132 And we obviously depend in part for our decisions about strategy 560 00:28:00,133 --> 00:28:04,367 on our allies in Congress and how they see the best 561 00:28:04,367 --> 00:28:05,367 direction to move. 562 00:28:05,367 --> 00:28:07,899 The Press: But it is an organic White House decision not to send a piece of 563 00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,567 legislation it drafts in one big package, and I'm just curious -- 564 00:28:10,567 --> 00:28:12,233 Mr. Carney: Yes, we haven't -- we're not doing that. 565 00:28:12,233 --> 00:28:14,867 But we're doing that -- I mean, there's a reason here, 566 00:28:14,867 --> 00:28:17,834 which is that the assault weapons ban did exist, 567 00:28:17,834 --> 00:28:22,166 was on the books for 10 years, including a portion of it that 568 00:28:22,166 --> 00:28:23,767 dealt with ammunition clips. 569 00:28:23,767 --> 00:28:27,400 That legislation has been something -- 570 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,400 renewal of it is something the President has supported for 571 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,400 a long time. 572 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,500 And Senator Feinstein is the author of that bill, 573 00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:39,367 and we support efforts to update it and move it forward. 574 00:28:39,367 --> 00:28:41,700 The Press: Does this strategy reflect a fear that if you put everything 575 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,934 in there with the assault weapons ban, 576 00:28:42,934 --> 00:28:45,033 that could pull it down and that you have a better chance of 577 00:28:45,033 --> 00:28:48,332 achieving some of these other goals if they're adjudicated, 578 00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:51,066 if you will, in Congress separately? 579 00:28:51,066 --> 00:28:52,367 Mr. Carney: I can't speak to that directly. 580 00:28:52,367 --> 00:28:55,533 I just know that we are working with Senator Feinstein, 581 00:28:55,533 --> 00:28:59,233 working with other Senators in the Senate, 582 00:28:59,233 --> 00:29:02,000 and we'll work with House members to try to move something 583 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000 forward here. 584 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,133 The reality is, as we've talked about, 585 00:29:06,133 --> 00:29:08,734 that none of this is going to be easy. 586 00:29:08,734 --> 00:29:13,667 But the fact that it's not easy doesn't mean we shouldn't try. 587 00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:14,734 The Press: -- some of it easier in isolation? 588 00:29:14,734 --> 00:29:18,066 Mr. Carney: Well, again, I think that's a question about legislative 589 00:29:18,066 --> 00:29:22,600 tactics that you can address to Congress, members of Congress, 590 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,033 and that I think I've addressed here. 591 00:29:24,033 --> 00:29:27,033 We are pursuing a course here that includes the legislation 592 00:29:27,033 --> 00:29:29,500 that Senator Feinstein is working on, other legislation -- 593 00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:31,066 you mentioned Senator Schumer. 594 00:29:31,066 --> 00:29:33,900 And we will continue to press the entire agenda the President 595 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:34,900 put forward. 596 00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:36,400 Ari. 597 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,400 The Press: I'd like to -- 598 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,166 Mr. Carney: Sorry, I did say Alexis, and then Ari. 599 00:29:40,166 --> 00:29:43,233 Getting the "A"s here -- then Alexander. 600 00:29:43,233 --> 00:29:45,000 The Press: Two quick follow-ups. 601 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,100 On Ed's question: If Congress today -- 602 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:53,332 I'm confused about -- 603 00:29:53,333 --> 00:29:54,867 Mr. Carney: Are they even here? 604 00:29:54,867 --> 00:29:57,399 The Press: I'm just saying, in a hypothetical, perfect world, 605 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,066 if they were going to do this today, 606 00:29:59,066 --> 00:30:01,767 I'm not sure I understand whether the President has 607 00:30:01,767 --> 00:30:04,600 signaled how long a duration he's seeking, 608 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,100 what dollar amount for the debt ceiling. 609 00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,800 How would they act if he's not negotiating and he hasn't 610 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,500 suggested what it is he'd sign? 611 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,433 Mr. Carney: Look, there is a long tradition here of Congress acting to raise 612 00:30:14,433 --> 00:30:15,433 the debt ceiling. 613 00:30:15,433 --> 00:30:16,600 This is a power that they've brought -- 614 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,367 that they've given themselves to do. 615 00:30:18,367 --> 00:30:21,966 And the point is -- without drama and delay. 616 00:30:21,967 --> 00:30:24,867 A monthly extension is drama, okay? 617 00:30:24,867 --> 00:30:27,667 Congress should simply do its job. 618 00:30:27,667 --> 00:30:32,934 It should not -- we're not going to negotiate over extending the 619 00:30:32,934 --> 00:30:34,133 debt ceiling. 620 00:30:34,133 --> 00:30:36,367 The Press: But is the President saying he's willing to revisit this 621 00:30:36,367 --> 00:30:37,367 within a year? 622 00:30:37,367 --> 00:30:38,800 Would he like five years? 623 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,100 I mean, what is he saying? 624 00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:42,699 Mr. Carney: I think the President made clear the other day that he would 625 00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,000 happily take on the responsibility himself if 626 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,333 Congress can't handle it. 627 00:30:46,333 --> 00:30:47,333 So the fact is, Congress should simply extend the debt ceiling, 628 00:30:47,333 --> 00:30:55,600 and do so in a manner that causes no concern to the economy 629 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,632 and to global markets, that does not in any way suggest that 630 00:30:59,633 --> 00:31:02,100 Washington is about to engage in another process that results in 631 00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:08,132 a self-inflicted wound to the economy. 632 00:31:08,133 --> 00:31:11,967 So it's sort of a moot point because it should just be 633 00:31:11,967 --> 00:31:15,300 extended in a way that does not raise concern about whether or 634 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,867 not the United States of America pays its bills. 635 00:31:18,867 --> 00:31:19,867 The Press: Okay. 636 00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:21,667 Another follow-up to what Major was saying. 637 00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:25,199 Legislative strategy on guns: The President obviously tasked 638 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,900 Vice President Biden to do this. 639 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,633 Is Vice President Biden going to be the White House lobbyist on 640 00:31:30,633 --> 00:31:31,867 guns on the Hill? 641 00:31:31,867 --> 00:31:34,700 And then, secondarily, it's been reported that the President's 642 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:36,233 White House lobbyist, Rob Nabors, 643 00:31:36,233 --> 00:31:39,667 is going to be elevated to be Deputy Chief of Staff. 644 00:31:39,667 --> 00:31:42,166 So my question is, do lawmakers and staffers, 645 00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:46,200 are they going to learn soon who the contact person is for the 646 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,533 legislative affairs if strategy is so important? 647 00:31:49,533 --> 00:31:52,800 Mr. Carney: Let me take the end of your question first by saying that I 648 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,834 have no personnel announcements to make. 649 00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:56,567 (laughter) 650 00:31:56,567 --> 00:32:00,800 Secondly, you can fully expect the Vice President to be engaged 651 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,800 in this process. 652 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,734 It makes sense since he led the effort that produced the 653 00:32:05,734 --> 00:32:08,899 recommendations that led to the President's event yesterday and 654 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:11,500 the proposals he put forward, and the Vice President has a 655 00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,533 long history on these matters. 656 00:32:14,533 --> 00:32:16,533 He was Chairman of the Judiciary Committee in the Senate. 657 00:32:16,533 --> 00:32:21,966 He was a primary author of the Crime Bill that included the 658 00:32:21,967 --> 00:32:24,166 assault weapons ban in 1994. 659 00:32:24,166 --> 00:32:27,100 And we'll continue to be engaged in these issues. 660 00:32:27,100 --> 00:32:32,033 But I don't have a roster of individuals who will make up the 661 00:32:32,033 --> 00:32:36,265 legislative team, but you can absolutely report with great 662 00:32:36,266 --> 00:32:39,300 certainty that the Vice President will be involved. 663 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:40,433 Ari. 664 00:32:40,433 --> 00:32:43,200 The Press: I'd just like to try to take another crack at the 665 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,700 inauguration questions, since this may be the last briefing of 666 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:46,700 the President's first term. 667 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,734 He's been so busy the last few weeks with the fiscal cliff 668 00:32:49,734 --> 00:32:50,734 and with guns. 669 00:32:50,734 --> 00:32:53,033 Have you seen any moments of introspection you could share 670 00:32:53,033 --> 00:32:55,367 with us about reaching the end of this momentous term and 671 00:32:55,367 --> 00:32:59,500 beginning a new one? 672 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:00,900 Mr. Carney: Yes. 673 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:02,433 (laughter) 674 00:33:02,433 --> 00:33:03,600 The Press: That you can share with us? 675 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,000 The Press: And you can share -- that was the key phrase. 676 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,333 And will this be the last briefing of the first term? 677 00:33:10,333 --> 00:33:11,834 The Press: The important question first. 678 00:33:11,834 --> 00:33:14,066 What moments of introspection -- 679 00:33:14,066 --> 00:33:15,767 Mr. Carney: Somebody voted over here and said yes. 680 00:33:15,767 --> 00:33:17,967 (laughter) 681 00:33:17,967 --> 00:33:24,800 I think the President takes, obviously, 682 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,667 this responsibility enormously seriously, 683 00:33:27,667 --> 00:33:36,766 and feels grateful for the opportunity that the American 684 00:33:36,767 --> 00:33:37,767 people have given him. 685 00:33:37,767 --> 00:33:45,500 I'm not -- he said I think in the wake of the election that he 686 00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:52,700 didn't get -- he didn't seek reelection just to be reelected. 687 00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:54,533 He believes that we have work to do, 688 00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:59,332 and he believes that both the agenda he has put forward so far 689 00:33:59,333 --> 00:34:03,033 and the agenda he will put forward in the future will help 690 00:34:03,033 --> 00:34:06,332 this country move forward in a variety of ways. 691 00:34:06,333 --> 00:34:13,633 This is something he feels very deeply. 692 00:34:13,632 --> 00:34:19,667 I think it's been reported and I think it's fair to say that the 693 00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:28,000 reelection was in some ways for all of us here a humbling 694 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,766 experience because it was an assertion by the electorate that 695 00:34:32,766 --> 00:34:38,500 said, despite how hard the last four years have been on this 696 00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:43,433 country because of the grave economic crisis that we were in 697 00:34:43,433 --> 00:34:46,467 when the President took office, the steps that we've taken have 698 00:34:46,467 --> 00:34:50,200 been the right steps and more work needs to be done. 699 00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,833 And I know he views it that way. 700 00:34:52,833 --> 00:34:56,899 As far as -- all I can tell you is the President in general when 701 00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:01,133 he works on a speech writes in longhand on a yellow pad, 702 00:35:01,133 --> 00:35:05,767 and I've seen some yellow pads filled with writing of late 703 00:35:05,767 --> 00:35:08,533 around, but I don't have any more details on the speech. 704 00:35:08,533 --> 00:35:09,933 Peter. 705 00:35:09,934 --> 00:35:12,333 The Press: A couple of questions following up first on what you said 706 00:35:12,333 --> 00:35:13,333 about weapons. 707 00:35:13,333 --> 00:35:15,567 You said this is a ban on further manufacture on 708 00:35:15,567 --> 00:35:16,567 future weapons. 709 00:35:16,567 --> 00:35:19,367 I'm curious what that means for weapons that already have been 710 00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:22,300 manufactured and exist in the stocks of retailers around this 711 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:25,600 country, and why that wouldn't motivate manufacturers now to 712 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,100 manufacture them in bulk and then store them up if they have 713 00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:31,900 the ability to distribute them after. 714 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:33,433 Mr. Carney: Well, it's a fair question. 715 00:35:33,433 --> 00:35:36,567 I think the original assault weapons ban was on future 716 00:35:36,567 --> 00:35:40,300 manufacture, and I think Senator Feinstein and others can speak 717 00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:46,133 with you about the writing of the legislation and some of the 718 00:35:46,133 --> 00:35:48,299 reasoning behind that. 719 00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:53,433 Again, we do not believe that any single measure that Congress 720 00:35:53,433 --> 00:35:57,000 can turn into law or that the President can take, 721 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,700 or that even we as a nation can do, will eliminate this problem, 722 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:08,734 will assure us that there won't be another terrible mass 723 00:36:08,734 --> 00:36:10,165 shooting in the future. 724 00:36:10,166 --> 00:36:13,900 But these actions -- if we take them -- 725 00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:17,600 will, the President believes, reduce the possibility and 726 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,866 therefore save lives and that's why they're so 727 00:36:20,867 --> 00:36:21,967 important to take. 728 00:36:21,967 --> 00:36:24,433 The Press: And then following up perhaps on what Ari said a second ago -- 729 00:36:24,433 --> 00:36:26,767 as opposed to the introspective moments about the past four 730 00:36:26,767 --> 00:36:29,734 years in this place, I'm curious the President's thoughts as we 731 00:36:29,734 --> 00:36:32,500 now head into this weekend, given the fact that four years 732 00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,834 ago they were approaching 2 million people expected here; 733 00:36:34,834 --> 00:36:37,366 this time, maybe 800,000 per the estimates. 734 00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:40,300 There were 10 inaugural balls; this time, just a couple. 735 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:44,333 How does he view this moment differently than he did four 736 00:36:44,333 --> 00:36:49,567 years ago as a sort of milestone moment in his presidency? 737 00:36:49,567 --> 00:36:52,300 Mr. Carney: Well, I'm not -- I don't really have anything more for you on 738 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:57,066 his perspective. 739 00:36:57,066 --> 00:37:00,500 I think he'll provide that when he speaks on Monday. 740 00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:03,400 I would suggest to you that there will be a very good crowd 741 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,700 on Monday. 742 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:08,734 And I would point you to PIC, the inaugural committee, 743 00:37:08,734 --> 00:37:14,165 to explain to you that the number of balls does not -- 744 00:37:14,166 --> 00:37:16,734 there's not an exact coefficient between the number of people 745 00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:17,834 going to the balls. 746 00:37:17,834 --> 00:37:21,433 But there was, we felt I think, and the President felt and the 747 00:37:21,433 --> 00:37:27,367 committee felt that this appropriate in terms of the 748 00:37:27,367 --> 00:37:31,200 number of events and the participants in them. 749 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,299 Stephen. 750 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,500 The Press: As a general matter when American hostages are in a 751 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,200 situation overseas, would the government expect or hope to be 752 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,799 informed in advance before some kind of rescue operation or 753 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,700 attack on the hostage takers? 754 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:51,966 Mr. Carney: That's a very clever way of asking a question that has 755 00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:52,967 already been asked. 756 00:37:52,967 --> 00:37:55,600 And I just don't have -- as it relates to the situation in 757 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,533 Algeria, I just don't have more information for you 758 00:37:57,533 --> 00:37:58,533 at this time. 759 00:37:58,533 --> 00:38:01,667 We'll certainly try to get you more information as we have it 760 00:38:01,667 --> 00:38:05,900 and as we have in a way that we believe is verifiable. 761 00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,600 The Press: Okay, can I try one on Iran? 762 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600 How did the White House interpret President 763 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:16,500 Ahmadinejad's remarks yesterday that he would have to transform 764 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:19,166 the Iranian economy because of the impact of Western sanctions? 765 00:38:19,166 --> 00:38:23,166 Does that augur any hope for any flexibility in the Iranian 766 00:38:23,166 --> 00:38:25,500 position, do you think? 767 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:26,500 Mr. Carney: I wouldn't look at it that way. 768 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,333 I would say that it is another indicator, 769 00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:31,667 of which there have been many in recent weeks, 770 00:38:31,667 --> 00:38:34,567 months and the past year, that the comprehensive international, 771 00:38:34,567 --> 00:38:35,567 multinational effort to sanction Iran has been effective in the 772 00:38:35,567 --> 00:38:49,700 sense that it has had a profound impact on the Iranian economy 773 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:52,133 and has had an impact, because of that, 774 00:38:52,133 --> 00:38:58,265 on the internal political situation in Iran. 775 00:38:58,266 --> 00:39:04,100 Iran is paying a high price for its refusal to abide by its 776 00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:07,967 obligations under United Nations Security Council resolutions and 777 00:39:07,967 --> 00:39:11,166 will continue to pay a high price. 778 00:39:11,166 --> 00:39:14,200 There is a different path available to Iran, 779 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,533 a path that would allow it to rejoin the community of nations, 780 00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:26,100 to alleviate the burdens placed on it by all these sanctions. 781 00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:30,266 They simply have to in a verifiable way abide by their 782 00:39:30,266 --> 00:39:33,667 commitments to forsake their nuclear weapons ambitions and to 783 00:39:33,667 --> 00:39:39,266 do so in a way that the United States and our broad 784 00:39:39,266 --> 00:39:43,700 international consensus here believes is verifiable. 785 00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:45,700 Donovan -- I'm sorry, Brianna. 786 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:46,700 The Press: Thanks, Jay. 787 00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:49,433 Mr. Carney: You know it's like you were right in there with 788 00:39:49,433 --> 00:39:50,867 that lovely -- 789 00:39:50,867 --> 00:39:51,700 The Press: Fluorescent -- 790 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:52,633 Mr. Carney: Yes, fluorescent jacket. 791 00:39:52,633 --> 00:39:53,433 (laughter) 792 00:39:53,433 --> 00:39:57,100 The Press: It's been widely reported that Denis McDonough will likely be 793 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,799 announced as the President's next Chief of Staff. 794 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,066 Is that true -- no I'm just kidding. 795 00:40:02,066 --> 00:40:03,533 Not is that true. 796 00:40:03,533 --> 00:40:09,900 But I'm wondering how sensitive is the President to what 797 00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:13,800 appearances might look like if his next personnel announcement 798 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,600 is a white man, instead of a pick who might add more 799 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:23,433 diversity to his staff or his Cabinet? 800 00:40:23,433 --> 00:40:26,633 Mr. Carney: I think it's impossible to answer that question since I 801 00:40:26,633 --> 00:40:30,533 have no information for you today that would allow you to 802 00:40:30,533 --> 00:40:33,967 deduce anything about what the next personnel announcement will 803 00:40:33,967 --> 00:40:38,400 be because I have none today, and I wouldn't expect one today. 804 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,066 The Press: Is it a determining factor as he considers -- 805 00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:44,133 Mr. Carney: I think the President is considering a variety of 806 00:40:44,133 --> 00:40:50,667 personnel decisions carefully and will make announcements when 807 00:40:50,667 --> 00:40:51,700 he's made the decision. 808 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:53,933 And I think that there's a lot of reporting and has been in the 809 00:40:53,934 --> 00:40:56,867 past that is speculative in nature, 810 00:40:56,867 --> 00:40:59,000 that sometimes proves to be -- it's like a -- 811 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,066 rolling the dice, right? 812 00:41:00,066 --> 00:41:03,066 Sometimes if you say it's going to be three, 813 00:41:03,066 --> 00:41:08,066 it turns out to be three, but often it's not. 814 00:41:08,066 --> 00:41:10,500 So the fact that some of that reporting about who is going to 815 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:12,734 have which position or be named to which position turns out to 816 00:41:12,734 --> 00:41:16,066 be true, there's a whole bunch of reporting that people forget 817 00:41:16,066 --> 00:41:19,200 where reporters assert that so and so is going to get this job 818 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,332 and it turns out not to be the case; 819 00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:22,367 and so and so gets another job, and it turns out not to be the 820 00:41:22,367 --> 00:41:24,066 case -- which is not to cast dispersions. 821 00:41:24,066 --> 00:41:29,165 It's just simply to say the President hasn't made a decision 822 00:41:29,166 --> 00:41:33,400 that he's ready to announce on that post or any of the others 823 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,500 that he has yet to announce. 824 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,633 And when he does, he'll present them to you. 825 00:41:38,633 --> 00:41:43,232 On the broader issue about the makeup of his Cabinet and White 826 00:41:43,233 --> 00:41:45,200 House staff, I think the President addressed this pretty 827 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,500 directly in answer to Jackie just the other day. 828 00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:51,834 The Press: But is he sensitive to the criticism? 829 00:41:51,834 --> 00:41:55,265 Mr. Carney: Well, I would make your assessment on that by looking at 830 00:41:55,266 --> 00:42:00,300 the answer he gave, which is that diversity matters to him. 831 00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:06,367 That is in part why a woman was his chief diplomat, 832 00:42:06,367 --> 00:42:10,000 a woman has been his homeland -- top homeland security Cabinet 833 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000 official, a woman has been representing -- 834 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,500 The Press: He said those were the announcements to judge by all of 835 00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:15,500 his announcements. 836 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:16,500 So obviously -- 837 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:17,500 Mr. Carney: Right, but that's in the future. 838 00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:18,500 But I'm just saying -- I mean, I think his record is pretty -- 839 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:19,900 demonstrates the value he places on diversity. 840 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:25,033 And I think he made clear that you should wait to make 841 00:42:25,033 --> 00:42:28,433 judgments about his personnel decisions and the diversity of 842 00:42:28,433 --> 00:42:31,700 them after he's made them and announced them. 843 00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:35,000 The Press: So then after he makes some more personnel assessments -- 844 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,233 or personnel announcements, he makes his next one, 845 00:42:37,233 --> 00:42:38,400 then after that -- 846 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,567 Mr. Carney: I think he said to all of them. 847 00:42:40,567 --> 00:42:43,433 So I would -- I mean, obviously, you're free to make any 848 00:42:43,433 --> 00:42:45,233 assessments you want at any time that you want, 849 00:42:45,233 --> 00:42:49,367 but I think his -- he was urging folks to sort of stand back and 850 00:42:49,367 --> 00:42:52,467 wait until he's made what will be another series of 851 00:42:52,467 --> 00:42:54,433 announcements, because obviously there are some 852 00:42:54,433 --> 00:42:55,900 positions to fill. 853 00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:57,767 The Press: And finally, it's the First Lady's birthday today, 854 00:42:57,767 --> 00:42:58,933 I believe. 855 00:42:58,934 --> 00:43:00,166 Mr. Carney: It is. 856 00:43:00,166 --> 00:43:02,734 The Press: Can you tell us anything about how the President and First 857 00:43:02,734 --> 00:43:04,700 Family are celebrating her birthday? 858 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:06,366 Mr. Carney: I don't want to ruin the surprise. 859 00:43:06,367 --> 00:43:08,633 The Press: But anything that may have already happened? 860 00:43:08,633 --> 00:43:09,734 Mr. Carney: No, you know, I -- 861 00:43:09,734 --> 00:43:12,400 The Press: He's not waiting until the very end of the day to acknowledge -- 862 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000 Mr. Carney: That's a personal thing. 863 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,367 I don't have anything for that on you -- on that for you. 864 00:43:18,367 --> 00:43:19,734 (laughter) 865 00:43:19,734 --> 00:43:21,700 Seriously, I asked, but I don't have anything for you. 866 00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:22,567 The Press: Any outing tonight? 867 00:43:22,567 --> 00:43:23,266 Mr. Carney: I'm sorry? 868 00:43:23,266 --> 00:43:24,300 The Press: Outing tonight? 869 00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:27,400 Mr. Carney: I don't have anything for you on the President's schedule. 870 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,200 Donovan. 871 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:30,433 The Press: Two quick questions. 872 00:43:30,433 --> 00:43:32,367 On Manti Te'o -- 873 00:43:32,367 --> 00:43:34,266 (laughter) 874 00:43:34,266 --> 00:43:40,233 -- have you spoken -- someone had to ask. 875 00:43:40,233 --> 00:43:43,000 Have you spoken with the President about it and has he 876 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,433 had any thoughts about it? 877 00:43:44,433 --> 00:43:45,567 I know he's a big sports fan. 878 00:43:45,567 --> 00:43:49,200 Mr. Carney: I have not spoken with him. 879 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:55,700 I read the article in question yesterday evening and it 880 00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:56,700 was fascinating. 881 00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:00,700 But I don't have anything for you from the President. 882 00:44:00,700 --> 00:44:02,667 The Press: Did you have thoughts on it? 883 00:44:02,667 --> 00:44:04,366 Mr. Carney: I mean, I just thought it was a very interesting story. 884 00:44:04,367 --> 00:44:09,266 But I just don't, obviously, have any comment on it. 885 00:44:09,266 --> 00:44:11,533 The Press: And then, secondly, on Algeria -- 886 00:44:11,533 --> 00:44:19,567 (laughter) 887 00:44:19,567 --> 00:44:23,700 On Algeria, Sky News is reporting that U.S. drones, 888 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:27,033 at least one, have been spotted over the area. 889 00:44:27,033 --> 00:44:30,667 When you said earlier that we are providing logistical 890 00:44:30,667 --> 00:44:33,433 support, does that include drones? 891 00:44:33,433 --> 00:44:37,867 Mr. Carney: I was referring to Mali when I was talking about logistical 892 00:44:37,867 --> 00:44:41,567 support to the French effort, which is essentially 893 00:44:41,567 --> 00:44:42,567 airlift support. 894 00:44:42,567 --> 00:44:44,367 But I mean, I just don't have any -- 895 00:44:44,367 --> 00:44:45,367 The Press: And U.S. drones over Algeria? 896 00:44:45,367 --> 00:44:48,333 Mr. Carney: I don't have any other details for you on the support we're 897 00:44:48,333 --> 00:44:51,300 providing beyond what I said before. 898 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:55,200 The Press: This may sound very mundane, but the Vice President is meeting 899 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,633 with mayors this afternoon. 900 00:44:56,633 --> 00:44:59,466 So I'm just wondering -- 901 00:44:59,467 --> 00:45:01,333 Mr. Carney: That's important. 902 00:45:01,333 --> 00:45:05,600 The Press: Yes, well, so I just wanted to try to put some meat 903 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:06,667 on the bone. 904 00:45:06,667 --> 00:45:10,667 Is there any specific asks of the mayors or anything specific 905 00:45:10,667 --> 00:45:14,467 that he needs to tell them from the administration on some of 906 00:45:14,467 --> 00:45:17,133 these big issues that we're dealing with this week, 907 00:45:17,133 --> 00:45:19,799 both guns and the debt ceiling? 908 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,066 Mr. Carney: Well, I think you can expect that the Vice President will, 909 00:45:23,066 --> 00:45:26,433 in his discussion with mayors, raise the issue that he worked 910 00:45:26,433 --> 00:45:28,166 hard on and the President announced yesterday, 911 00:45:28,166 --> 00:45:31,900 which is a series of initiatives and proposals that make up the 912 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:37,000 President's plan to try to reduce gun violence. 913 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,867 I think that will be a focus of the conversation. 914 00:45:39,867 --> 00:45:42,567 I don't know that they'll talk about the debt ceiling. 915 00:45:42,567 --> 00:45:46,900 I suppose that's possible, but I think gun violence will be a 916 00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:48,834 topic of, and an appropriate one, 917 00:45:48,834 --> 00:45:50,600 when the Vice President meets with mayors. 918 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,000 The Press: What's he asking them for? 919 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,000 Mr. Carney: Support. 920 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,000 The Press: How? 921 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Mr. Carney: Well, I think -- 922 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:56,000 The Press: Does he want mayors to call their congressmen 923 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,333 and ask them -- 924 00:45:57,333 --> 00:45:58,333 Mr. Carney: Sure. 925 00:45:58,333 --> 00:46:01,333 I think the whole point that the President made and the Vice 926 00:46:01,333 --> 00:46:04,900 President will make is that we need everybody who believes this 927 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:09,400 is a matter of concern and it needs to be addressed, 928 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,333 and who supports the common-sense measures the 929 00:46:12,333 --> 00:46:14,600 President put forward yesterday, to speak up. 930 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,500 And that includes elected officials at the local level and 931 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,600 the state level, as well as at the national level. 932 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,000 And it includes average Americans and interest groups 933 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,433 and civic groups that are concerned about gun violence and 934 00:46:26,433 --> 00:46:31,333 who want to see common-sense action taken that respects and 935 00:46:31,333 --> 00:46:37,367 protects our Second Amendment rights but helps prevent those 936 00:46:37,367 --> 00:46:41,600 who should not have weapons from getting them, 937 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:49,900 from attaining them, and helps prevent potential violent actors 938 00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:53,133 from obtaining the kinds of weapons that could inflict so 939 00:46:53,133 --> 00:46:57,433 much damage -- which addresses the ammunition clip issue. 940 00:46:57,433 --> 00:47:02,800 So he will, I'm sure, be calling on mayors to support 941 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,800 this effort. 942 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,233 And that's just the start of it. 943 00:47:06,233 --> 00:47:09,333 The Press: On the debt ceiling, top administration officials did a 944 00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:12,100 call with, like, dozens of executives today -- 945 00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:13,133 CEOs and stuff. 946 00:47:13,133 --> 00:47:16,667 I'm just wondering if you could flesh that out a little for 947 00:47:16,667 --> 00:47:17,667 us as well. 948 00:47:17,667 --> 00:47:20,066 What is it that the administration is looking for 949 00:47:20,066 --> 00:47:23,165 the business community and corporate executives to do in 950 00:47:23,166 --> 00:47:26,633 terms of exerting pressure on Congress for the debt ceiling? 951 00:47:26,633 --> 00:47:30,399 How much do you think you can count on them explicitly? 952 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,500 Like beyond urging members not to hold it up, 953 00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:37,266 what do you actually expect them to do? 954 00:47:37,266 --> 00:47:40,100 Mr. Carney: Speak up about any concern they may have -- 955 00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:43,433 and this applies to anyone who has this concern who is in a 956 00:47:43,433 --> 00:47:46,700 position of influence -- to speak up about any concern they 957 00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:51,133 may have about Congress -- in this case, Republicans, 958 00:47:51,133 --> 00:47:56,667 in particular in the House -- using flirtation with default as 959 00:47:56,667 --> 00:48:01,165 a tactic because the implications of that are so 960 00:48:01,166 --> 00:48:02,467 profound for our economy. 961 00:48:02,467 --> 00:48:08,266 I mentioned this earlier, but here's Honeywell chairman and 962 00:48:08,266 --> 00:48:11,233 CEO, David Cote, saying, "You should not be using the debt 963 00:48:11,233 --> 00:48:13,433 "limit as a bargaining chip when it comes to how you run 964 00:48:13,433 --> 00:48:14,834 "the country. 965 00:48:14,834 --> 00:48:17,033 "You don't put the full faith and credit of the United 966 00:48:17,033 --> 00:48:18,533 "States at risk." 967 00:48:18,533 --> 00:48:21,700 Again, the Chamber of Commerce -- I quote -- 968 00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:25,600 "The Chamber believes we should not risk defaulting and 969 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,066 "therefore the debt ceiling needs to be raised." 970 00:48:29,066 --> 00:48:31,232 That's the Chamber of Commerce. 971 00:48:31,233 --> 00:48:34,934 Alan Simpson, co-author of the world-famous Simpson-Bowles 972 00:48:34,934 --> 00:48:40,533 plan, says of the proposition that the GOP might use the debt 973 00:48:40,533 --> 00:48:42,866 ceiling as a leverage point, he says, 974 00:48:42,867 --> 00:48:44,233 "I think that would be a grave mistake. 975 00:48:44,233 --> 00:48:45,967 "I don't think that would solve anything. 976 00:48:45,967 --> 00:48:47,900 "I think they are going to try it" -- 977 00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:50,333 I hope he's wrong about that -- "and how far they will go with 978 00:48:50,333 --> 00:48:52,900 "that game of chicken I have no idea. 979 00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:56,233 "But I can tell you, you can't, you really can't. 980 00:48:56,233 --> 00:48:58,500 "This is stuff that we've already indebted ourselves. 981 00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:01,433 "I mean, if you're a real conservative, 982 00:49:01,433 --> 00:49:05,100 "a really honest conservative, without hypocrisy, 983 00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:07,767 "you would want to pay your debt." 984 00:49:07,767 --> 00:49:09,866 Let me repeat: "If you are a real conservative, 985 00:49:09,867 --> 00:49:13,000 "a really honest conservative, without hypocrisy, 986 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,166 "you would want to pay your debt." 987 00:49:14,166 --> 00:49:17,100 That's Alan Simpson, former Republican senator. 988 00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:20,967 And the number of voices out there making that point I think 989 00:49:20,967 --> 00:49:25,800 is a positive thing when we talk about the absolute necessity for 990 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,033 Congress to do its job, for Republicans in Congress not to 991 00:49:30,033 --> 00:49:34,299 play chicken with the full faith and credit of the United States, 992 00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:38,233 to raise the debt ceiling without drama, without delay; 993 00:49:38,233 --> 00:49:39,767 and then to engage in positive, healthy, 994 00:49:39,767 --> 00:49:46,133 constructive discussion and negotiation about how we move 995 00:49:46,133 --> 00:49:49,332 forward in reducing our deficit in a balanced way, 996 00:49:49,333 --> 00:49:52,033 and doing so in a way that allows the economy to continue 997 00:49:52,033 --> 00:49:55,165 to grow so that we're making investments in education, 998 00:49:55,166 --> 00:49:57,266 and research and development, and elsewhere, 999 00:49:57,266 --> 00:50:01,533 in a way that doesn't ask seniors to bear the burden of 1000 00:50:01,533 --> 00:50:04,834 deficit reduction entirely -- in a balanced way. 1001 00:50:04,834 --> 00:50:07,866 And the President is eager to have those negotiations, 1002 00:50:07,867 --> 00:50:12,433 and is eager to compromise in a way that protects his 1003 00:50:12,433 --> 00:50:15,166 principles, as he has demonstrated in the past. 1004 00:50:15,166 --> 00:50:16,166 Thanks, guys. 1005 00:50:16,166 --> 00:50:20,934 Oh, I do owe Mr. Knoller -- you're looking a little forlorn. 1006 00:50:20,934 --> 00:50:25,033 The Press: Jay, what prompted President Obama to change the license 1007 00:50:25,033 --> 00:50:26,567 plate on his limousines? 1008 00:50:26,567 --> 00:50:29,166 For four years he didn't use the "Taxation Without 1009 00:50:29,166 --> 00:50:32,600 "Representation" plates, but on Saturday we hear he will be 1010 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:33,600 putting them on it. 1011 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,467 Why did he change his mind about that? 1012 00:50:36,467 --> 00:50:37,467 Mr. Carney: That's a good question. 1013 00:50:37,467 --> 00:50:38,467 I appreciate it. 1014 00:50:38,467 --> 00:50:41,433 President Obama now has lived in the District for four years and 1015 00:50:41,433 --> 00:50:44,934 has seen firsthand how patently unfair it is for working 1016 00:50:44,934 --> 00:50:48,000 families in D.C. to work hard, raise children, 1017 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,533 and pay taxes without having a vote in Congress. 1018 00:50:50,533 --> 00:50:53,133 Attaching these plates to the presidential vehicles 1019 00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,600 demonstrates the President's commitment to the principle of 1020 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,600 full representation for the people of the District of 1021 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,600 Columbia and his willingness to fight for voting rights, 1022 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,567 home rule, and budget autonomy for the district. 1023 00:51:04,567 --> 00:51:05,633 That's your answer. 1024 00:51:05,633 --> 00:51:06,633 Sorry, I've got to go. 1025 00:51:06,633 --> 00:51:07,633 Thanks. 1026 00:51:07,633 --> 00:51:10,500 The Press: Week ahead or are you going to brief tomorrow? 1027 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,300 The Press: See you tomorrow? 1028 00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:15,300 Mr. Carney: I'm sure you'll hear from me in some fashion tomorrow. 1029 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:17,300 We haven't decided yet.