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1 00:00:04,471 --> 00:00:05,101 Mr. Earnest: Good afternoon, everybody. 2 00:00:05,105 --> 00:00:07,675 We've got a full house today. 3 00:00:07,674 --> 00:00:08,904 Let me just do a quick statement at the top 4 00:00:08,908 --> 00:00:11,578 and then we'll move to your questions. 5 00:00:11,578 --> 00:00:13,578 Obviously, a lot has happened since we all 6 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:17,850 convened in this room six days ago, most importantly 7 00:00:17,851 --> 00:00:19,851 the terrible terror attacks that we saw 8 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:20,953 in Paris last week. 9 00:00:20,954 --> 00:00:22,954 And I expect that we'll have ample opportunity 10 00:00:22,956 --> 00:00:24,956 to talk about that over the course 11 00:00:24,958 --> 00:00:25,958 of this briefing today. 12 00:00:25,959 --> 00:00:27,959 However, before we do, let me also note something 13 00:00:27,961 --> 00:00:29,961 else important that happened, which is that 14 00:00:29,963 --> 00:00:31,463 House Republicans put forward 15 00:00:31,464 --> 00:00:34,104 Department of Homeland Security funding legislation 16 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,500 through the end of fiscal year 2015. 17 00:00:37,504 --> 00:00:40,004 Unfortunately, Republicans have also unveiled plans 18 00:00:40,006 --> 00:00:42,006 to muck around with that legislation. 19 00:00:42,008 --> 00:00:44,008 This is legislation that funds our efforts 20 00:00:44,010 --> 00:00:46,210 to protect our ports and our borders. 21 00:00:46,212 --> 00:00:47,652 It provides aviation security. 22 00:00:47,647 --> 00:00:49,887 It bolsters our cybersecurity. 23 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:51,883 It coordinates with state and local authorities 24 00:00:51,885 --> 00:00:53,115 to improve our counterterrorism 25 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:55,119 resilience in communities across the country. 26 00:00:55,121 --> 00:00:57,621 And, yes, it enforces our immigration laws. 27 00:00:57,624 --> 00:00:59,794 There's never a good time for Republicans 28 00:00:59,793 --> 00:01:02,563 to do something like this, but right now it seems like 29 00:01:02,562 --> 00:01:05,132 a particularly bad time for them to do so. 30 00:01:05,131 --> 00:01:07,131 Republicans have said they're doing this because 31 00:01:07,133 --> 00:01:09,433 they have a political or ideological objection 32 00:01:09,436 --> 00:01:11,436 to the President's executive action on immigration. 33 00:01:11,438 --> 00:01:14,208 So let me repeat what you've heard me say before: 34 00:01:14,207 --> 00:01:16,207 The President's plan would bring some 35 00:01:16,209 --> 00:01:18,209 badly needed accountability to our 36 00:01:18,211 --> 00:01:20,211 immigration system by requiring undocumented 37 00:01:20,213 --> 00:01:22,853 workers -- I'm sorry, undocumented immigrants 38 00:01:22,849 --> 00:01:24,849 who have been in this country for more than 39 00:01:24,851 --> 00:01:27,091 five years to come out of the shadows, get right with 40 00:01:27,086 --> 00:01:29,456 the law, submit to a background check, 41 00:01:29,456 --> 00:01:30,856 and pay taxes. 42 00:01:30,857 --> 00:01:33,857 The Republican plan would undo all of that and send 43 00:01:33,860 --> 00:01:35,860 the country back in the direction of doing 44 00:01:35,862 --> 00:01:37,862 nothing, which is something that no less 45 00:01:37,864 --> 00:01:42,874 an authority than Marco Rubio has said is amnesty. 46 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:45,069 So I guess that means there's probably a lot 47 00:01:45,071 --> 00:01:47,611 of reasons to think that what Republicans are planning 48 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:50,447 on the DHS funding bill is a bad idea. 49 00:01:50,443 --> 00:01:52,443 So with that, Jim, do you want to get us started 50 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:53,445 with questions today? 51 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:54,446 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 52 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:55,887 Just to follow up on that -- so the President would 53 00:01:55,882 --> 00:01:59,122 veto this legislation that the House has assembled? 54 00:01:59,118 --> 00:02:01,118 Mr. Earnest: Well, we've made clear, 55 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,890 dating back to last fall, that the President would 56 00:02:03,890 --> 00:02:08,260 oppose any legislative effort to undermine the executive 57 00:02:08,261 --> 00:02:10,461 actions that he took to add greater accountability 58 00:02:10,463 --> 00:02:14,873 to our immigration system. 59 00:02:14,868 --> 00:02:16,568 The Press: Can you tell us anything 60 00:02:16,569 --> 00:02:20,269 about this hacking of CENTCOM, how disruptive was it? 61 00:02:20,273 --> 00:02:23,943 Do you have any information on it? 62 00:02:23,943 --> 00:02:25,613 Mr. Earnest: Jim, I don't have 63 00:02:25,612 --> 00:02:27,042 a lot of information on this. 64 00:02:27,046 --> 00:02:30,186 It just occurred within the last hour or so. 65 00:02:30,183 --> 00:02:32,083 I can tell you this is something that we're 66 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:33,415 obviously looking into and something that 67 00:02:33,419 --> 00:02:35,359 we take seriously. 68 00:02:35,355 --> 00:02:37,455 However, just a note of caution to folks as 69 00:02:37,457 --> 00:02:39,457 they're covering this story, there's a pretty 70 00:02:39,459 --> 00:02:42,859 significant difference between what 71 00:02:42,862 --> 00:02:47,902 is a large data breach and the hacking 72 00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:49,001 of a Twitter account. 73 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:52,342 So we're still examining and investigating 74 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:57,748 the extent of this incident, but I don't have any 75 00:02:57,744 --> 00:03:00,884 information beyond that for you. 76 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,420 The Press: On the topic du jour, 77 00:03:04,417 --> 00:03:07,157 why did neither President Obama or 78 00:03:07,153 --> 00:03:10,753 Vice President Biden or Eric Holder attend 79 00:03:10,757 --> 00:03:14,397 the Paris solidarity march this Sunday? 80 00:03:14,394 --> 00:03:16,394 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, I can tell you 81 00:03:16,396 --> 00:03:18,396 that what was on the television screens of people across 82 00:03:18,398 --> 00:03:21,298 this country and I think even across the globe 83 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:24,841 was a remarkable display of unity by the French people 84 00:03:24,837 --> 00:03:31,007 in the face of these terrible terror attacks. 85 00:03:31,010 --> 00:03:33,010 And the way that that country has come together 86 00:03:33,012 --> 00:03:35,652 I do think struck a chord and inspired people all 87 00:03:35,648 --> 00:03:39,388 across the world and throughout this country. 88 00:03:39,385 --> 00:03:41,885 It was a remarkable display. 89 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:44,758 There were also a number of other world leaders 90 00:03:44,757 --> 00:03:46,757 who were there to participate and show 91 00:03:46,759 --> 00:03:48,829 their support as well. 92 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:50,828 And some have asked whether or not the 93 00:03:50,830 --> 00:03:53,500 United States should have sent someone with a higher 94 00:03:53,499 --> 00:03:57,939 profile than the ambassador to France, 95 00:03:57,937 --> 00:03:59,937 and I think it's fair to say that we should have sent 96 00:03:59,939 --> 00:04:03,079 someone with a higher profile to be there. 97 00:04:03,076 --> 00:04:07,216 That said, there is no doubt that the American 98 00:04:07,213 --> 00:04:09,713 people and this administration stand 99 00:04:09,716 --> 00:04:12,856 foursquare behind our allies in France as they 100 00:04:12,852 --> 00:04:14,322 face down this threat. 101 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,320 And that was evident throughout last week, 102 00:04:16,322 --> 00:04:18,322 when you saw that the President's top 103 00:04:18,324 --> 00:04:20,324 counterterrorism advisor here at the White House 104 00:04:20,326 --> 00:04:22,826 was in touch with her French counterpart minutes 105 00:04:22,829 --> 00:04:25,869 after the reports of this terror attack 106 00:04:25,865 --> 00:04:27,335 first emerged. 107 00:04:27,333 --> 00:04:29,633 You saw later in the day that the President 108 00:04:29,636 --> 00:04:32,106 of the United States telephoned President Hollande 109 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,045 to not just express his condolences on behalf 110 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,780 of the American people to the people of France but 111 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:39,846 also to pledge any needed cooperation and 112 00:04:39,846 --> 00:04:43,186 assistance to conduct the investigation and to bring 113 00:04:43,182 --> 00:04:45,782 to justice those who are responsible for those 114 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:47,555 terror attacks. 115 00:04:47,553 --> 00:04:49,823 I can tell you that that kind of coordination that 116 00:04:49,822 --> 00:04:51,822 is the backbone of the strong relationship 117 00:04:51,824 --> 00:04:54,194 between the United States and France continues. 118 00:04:54,193 --> 00:04:56,193 It continued throughout the weekend, 119 00:04:56,195 --> 00:04:57,165 and it continues today. 120 00:04:57,163 --> 00:04:59,163 In fact, I can tell you that the French ambassador 121 00:04:59,165 --> 00:05:01,235 to the United States will be here at the White House 122 00:05:01,234 --> 00:05:03,704 later today to meet with Lisa Monaco, who is, 123 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:05,943 as I mentioned earlier, is the President's top 124 00:05:05,938 --> 00:05:06,978 counterterrorism advisor. 125 00:05:06,973 --> 00:05:08,973 The Press: How much higher a profile 126 00:05:08,975 --> 00:05:11,545 do you think should have -- or does the President 127 00:05:11,544 --> 00:05:13,184 think should have been there? 128 00:05:13,179 --> 00:05:16,819 Eric Holder was in the city and did television 129 00:05:16,816 --> 00:05:18,916 talk show shows that morning. 130 00:05:18,918 --> 00:05:21,418 Should he have been the person representing the U.S.? 131 00:05:21,421 --> 00:05:23,991 Or at what level would the President have 132 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:26,090 been satisfied with that presence? 133 00:05:26,092 --> 00:05:28,192 Mr. Earnest: Well, I can tell you, 134 00:05:28,194 --> 00:05:29,694 Jim, that had the circumstances been a little bit different, 135 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:31,166 I think the President himself would have liked 136 00:05:31,164 --> 00:05:33,004 to have had the opportunity to be there. 137 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:34,029 The Press: Why not -- 138 00:05:34,033 --> 00:05:35,173 Mr. Earnest: Well, the fact is, 139 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:38,538 that is this is obviously a march that the 140 00:05:38,538 --> 00:05:40,878 planning for which only began on Friday night 141 00:05:40,873 --> 00:05:45,613 and 36 hours later it had begun. 142 00:05:45,611 --> 00:05:48,551 What's also clear is that the security requirements 143 00:05:48,548 --> 00:05:50,118 around a presidential-level 144 00:05:50,116 --> 00:05:52,756 visit or even a vice presidential-level visit 145 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:54,452 are onerous and significant. 146 00:05:54,454 --> 00:05:57,024 And in a situation like this, they typically 147 00:05:57,023 --> 00:06:01,793 have a pretty significant impact on the other 148 00:06:01,794 --> 00:06:03,194 citizens who are trying to participate 149 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:05,536 in a large public event like this. 150 00:06:05,531 --> 00:06:07,531 We talk about this a lot when it comes to the 151 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:11,773 President attending a basketball game, but the 152 00:06:11,771 --> 00:06:13,871 fact of the matter is there were not just 153 00:06:13,873 --> 00:06:15,873 thousands of people at the event -- 154 00:06:15,875 --> 00:06:17,445 there were millions. 155 00:06:17,443 --> 00:06:20,613 It wasn't just an arena that needed to be secured, 156 00:06:20,613 --> 00:06:22,813 but a large outdoor area that poses significant 157 00:06:22,815 --> 00:06:25,055 security challenges. 158 00:06:25,051 --> 00:06:27,051 I'm confident that the professionals 159 00:06:27,053 --> 00:06:29,093 at the Secret Service could overcome those challenges, 160 00:06:29,088 --> 00:06:31,088 but it would have been very difficult 161 00:06:31,090 --> 00:06:33,090 to do so without significantly impacting the ability 162 00:06:33,092 --> 00:06:37,532 of common citizens to participate in this march. 163 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:40,870 And after all, what I think was so impressive 164 00:06:40,867 --> 00:06:43,867 about this display is it demonstrated the unity 165 00:06:43,870 --> 00:06:48,010 of the French people. 166 00:06:48,007 --> 00:06:51,077 And that is something that we are always mindful 167 00:06:51,077 --> 00:06:54,447 of in situations like this, of interfering with those 168 00:06:54,447 --> 00:06:56,447 who are trying to attend an event, particularly 169 00:06:56,449 --> 00:06:59,649 when the purpose of the event is to demonstrate 170 00:06:59,652 --> 00:07:03,692 the unity of spirit and purpose of the people 171 00:07:03,689 --> 00:07:04,959 who are coming together. 172 00:07:04,957 --> 00:07:06,097 The Press: This consideration 173 00:07:06,092 --> 00:07:10,662 of perhaps having had a more prominent presence there, 174 00:07:10,663 --> 00:07:13,503 is that something that just has been considered 175 00:07:13,499 --> 00:07:15,339 at the White House today, or was it something you 176 00:07:15,334 --> 00:07:18,174 considered doing on Friday when you first knew that 177 00:07:18,171 --> 00:07:21,041 this was going to happen? 178 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,010 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, I'm not 179 00:07:22,008 --> 00:07:24,148 going to sort of unpack all of the planning 180 00:07:24,143 --> 00:07:26,583 and discussions that went into this. 181 00:07:26,579 --> 00:07:29,519 But I think suffice it to say there should not be, 182 00:07:29,515 --> 00:07:33,485 and there is not any doubt in the minds of the people 183 00:07:33,486 --> 00:07:35,756 in France or people around the world, and certainly 184 00:07:35,755 --> 00:07:40,325 not among our enemies, about how committed 185 00:07:40,326 --> 00:07:42,926 to a strong relationship that the United States 186 00:07:42,929 --> 00:07:44,929 is with France, and committed to the same 187 00:07:44,931 --> 00:07:46,971 kinds of values that they are. 188 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:50,036 I think in some ways, most importantly, the people 189 00:07:50,036 --> 00:07:52,076 who understand this best of all are the 190 00:07:52,071 --> 00:07:53,511 French people themselves. 191 00:07:53,506 --> 00:07:55,506 And I did note that the French ambassador was 192 00:07:55,508 --> 00:07:57,808 on television earlier today in which he described 193 00:07:57,810 --> 00:07:59,810 the French people as overwhelmed by the 194 00:07:59,812 --> 00:08:03,752 expression of solidarity and grief from all corners 195 00:08:03,749 --> 00:08:05,749 of the American people, including from the 196 00:08:05,751 --> 00:08:07,591 highest levels of the administration. 197 00:08:07,587 --> 00:08:08,757 Steve. 198 00:08:08,754 --> 00:08:09,754 The Press: Josh, just to follow 199 00:08:09,755 --> 00:08:13,865 up on this, did you consider having the President go, 200 00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:16,260 or was it something that was just developing too late 201 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:18,132 to actually pull together in time? 202 00:08:18,130 --> 00:08:19,370 Mr. Earnest: Well, Steve, as 203 00:08:19,365 --> 00:08:20,495 I mentioned to Jim, I'm just not going 204 00:08:20,499 --> 00:08:22,699 to be in a position to sort of unpack the scheduling 205 00:08:22,702 --> 00:08:26,272 planning discussions that we have here. 206 00:08:26,272 --> 00:08:28,542 But what I can tell you is that there are some 207 00:08:28,541 --> 00:08:32,041 who have suggested that the U.S. presence 208 00:08:32,044 --> 00:08:33,044 at the march should have been 209 00:08:33,045 --> 00:08:35,845 represented by somebody with a higher profile than 210 00:08:35,848 --> 00:08:37,988 the ambassador to France. 211 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:41,724 And I guess what I'm saying is that we here 212 00:08:41,721 --> 00:08:43,721 at the White House agree that somebody with a higher 213 00:08:43,723 --> 00:08:46,193 profile should have also included -- 214 00:08:46,192 --> 00:08:47,192 The Press: And did the French 215 00:08:47,193 --> 00:08:49,063 ask you to come? 216 00:08:49,061 --> 00:08:51,061 Mr. Earnest: Steve, I'm not aware 217 00:08:51,063 --> 00:08:53,603 of all the conversations that may have occurred 218 00:08:53,599 --> 00:08:56,869 between French officials and American officials here. 219 00:08:56,869 --> 00:08:57,739 The Press: There's been plenty 220 00:08:57,737 --> 00:08:58,707 of criticism about this. 221 00:08:58,704 --> 00:08:59,904 Is this criticism fair? 222 00:08:59,906 --> 00:09:01,906 Mr. Earnest: Well criticism from whom? 223 00:09:01,908 --> 00:09:04,748 The Press: A wide variety of -- 224 00:09:04,744 --> 00:09:06,314 everybody from -- 225 00:09:06,312 --> 00:09:07,342 Mr. Earnest: But nobody that comes to mind? 226 00:09:07,346 --> 00:09:08,286 The Press: I can give you -- 227 00:09:08,281 --> 00:09:09,381 Mr. Earnest: Go ahead, Steve. 228 00:09:09,382 --> 00:09:10,982 It's your turn to ask the question, so you can -- 229 00:09:10,983 --> 00:09:12,553 The Press: Ted Cruz -- 230 00:09:12,551 --> 00:09:13,691 Mr. Earnest: Ted Cruz. 231 00:09:13,686 --> 00:09:14,816 The Press: Jake Tapper. 232 00:09:14,820 --> 00:09:15,790 Mr. Earnest: Jake Tapper did have 233 00:09:15,788 --> 00:09:16,558 some criticism. 234 00:09:16,555 --> 00:09:18,395 I saw that too. 235 00:09:18,391 --> 00:09:19,991 The Press: Marco Rubio. 236 00:09:19,992 --> 00:09:21,192 The Press: -- throw out some names. 237 00:09:21,193 --> 00:09:21,893 The Press: There are other 238 00:09:21,894 --> 00:09:23,634 Republicans too. 239 00:09:23,629 --> 00:09:25,699 Mr. Earnest: So, Steve, you're asking? 240 00:09:25,698 --> 00:09:30,408 The Press: Is this criticism fair? 241 00:09:30,403 --> 00:09:32,403 Mr. Earnest: It's certainly a free country, 242 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:34,975 and people have the opportunity to subject 243 00:09:34,974 --> 00:09:37,714 their elected officials to criticism and make 244 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:40,750 it clear when they disagree with a decision 245 00:09:40,746 --> 00:09:42,786 or an action that's been taken by the administration, 246 00:09:42,782 --> 00:09:44,782 and I certainly wouldn't quibble with their 247 00:09:44,784 --> 00:09:45,784 right to do so. 248 00:09:45,785 --> 00:09:47,755 And to the extent that there are those who are 249 00:09:47,753 --> 00:09:50,023 out there saying that the administration should have 250 00:09:50,022 --> 00:09:52,022 sent someone with a higher profile to participate 251 00:09:52,024 --> 00:09:56,024 in the march, I guess what I'm saying is that 252 00:09:56,028 --> 00:09:57,528 we agree that we should have sent someone with 253 00:09:57,530 --> 00:10:00,530 a higher profile -- again, in addition 254 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:02,233 to the ambassador to France. 255 00:10:02,234 --> 00:10:03,374 The Press: Let me just ask one 256 00:10:03,369 --> 00:10:04,809 last thing, sort of related to this. 257 00:10:04,804 --> 00:10:07,874 President Hollande has called the Paris attacks 258 00:10:07,873 --> 00:10:09,843 an "act of war." 259 00:10:09,842 --> 00:10:13,312 How does this change your strategy toward going 260 00:10:13,312 --> 00:10:14,712 after Islamic State? 261 00:10:14,714 --> 00:10:17,314 Are the French now going to be stronger partners? 262 00:10:17,316 --> 00:10:18,116 Or how do you interpret this? 263 00:10:18,117 --> 00:10:20,917 Mr. Earnest: Well, there's an important 264 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,920 leap that's made in the construct of the 265 00:10:22,922 --> 00:10:24,922 question there, which is there still 266 00:10:24,924 --> 00:10:28,024 is an investigation that's ongoing to determine exactly 267 00:10:28,027 --> 00:10:31,597 what the links were between these individuals who 268 00:10:31,597 --> 00:10:34,467 were responsible for these terror attacks in France 269 00:10:34,467 --> 00:10:37,037 and their communications and support from 270 00:10:37,036 --> 00:10:39,236 extremists in other locations around the globe. 271 00:10:39,238 --> 00:10:41,238 There's some reporting -- public reporting 272 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,180 -- that I'm referring to that indicates that these 273 00:10:45,177 --> 00:10:47,347 individuals may have had links to or even 274 00:10:47,346 --> 00:10:48,716 traveled to Yemen. 275 00:10:48,714 --> 00:10:53,324 I know that there is a video that's emerged today 276 00:10:53,319 --> 00:10:56,089 that we're still reviewing here in which one of the 277 00:10:56,088 --> 00:10:58,928 terrorists indicate some sympathy and 278 00:10:58,924 --> 00:11:00,794 support from ISIL. 279 00:11:00,793 --> 00:11:03,063 So we're reviewing all of this and trying 280 00:11:03,062 --> 00:11:06,332 to assist the French as they take the lead 281 00:11:06,332 --> 00:11:08,472 on the investigation, as they should, about who 282 00:11:08,467 --> 00:11:11,307 is responsible, what kind of support they had, 283 00:11:11,303 --> 00:11:13,603 and what links that has to other 284 00:11:13,606 --> 00:11:16,706 extremist groups around the world. 285 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:17,709 Move around just a little bit. 286 00:11:17,710 --> 00:11:18,710 Laura. 287 00:11:18,711 --> 00:11:19,241 The Press: Thank you. 288 00:11:19,245 --> 00:11:20,115 Merci. 289 00:11:20,112 --> 00:11:21,152 How did the President follow the 290 00:11:21,147 --> 00:11:22,947 demonstration yesterday? 291 00:11:22,948 --> 00:11:25,748 And what was his personal feeling when he was 292 00:11:25,751 --> 00:11:29,021 looking at all those American channels 293 00:11:29,021 --> 00:11:32,321 airing the demonstration for hours? 294 00:11:32,324 --> 00:11:34,394 Mr. Earnest: Well, Laura, I don't 295 00:11:34,393 --> 00:11:37,063 know how much of the march the President 296 00:11:37,063 --> 00:11:40,263 watched on television, but I can tell you that the 297 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:43,006 comments that I have reiterated today about 298 00:11:43,002 --> 00:11:45,802 the rather impressive display of unity and solidarity 299 00:11:45,805 --> 00:11:48,075 from the French people is something that the 300 00:11:48,074 --> 00:11:50,074 President made note of as well. 301 00:11:52,378 --> 00:11:55,478 And these are messages that were most importantly 302 00:11:55,481 --> 00:11:57,881 sent by the citizens of France, but they were 303 00:11:57,883 --> 00:11:59,883 echoed by people all across the globe. 304 00:11:59,885 --> 00:12:02,355 And there were many ways people could demonstrate 305 00:12:02,354 --> 00:12:04,824 those expressions of support -- everything 306 00:12:04,824 --> 00:12:08,394 from an op-ed to a tweet to a speech at the 307 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:10,394 Golden Globes Awards last night. 308 00:12:10,396 --> 00:12:12,966 And I think that is indicative of the kind 309 00:12:12,965 --> 00:12:15,635 of solidarity that the American people feel with 310 00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:18,234 our allies in France -- not just because of the 311 00:12:18,237 --> 00:12:20,737 terrible tragedy that they've endured, but also 312 00:12:20,739 --> 00:12:22,939 because of the kinds of values that they fight for. 313 00:12:22,942 --> 00:12:24,942 These are the same kinds of values that we hold 314 00:12:24,944 --> 00:12:25,944 dear in this country. 315 00:12:25,945 --> 00:12:27,915 And I think that's why the bond between the 316 00:12:27,913 --> 00:12:30,513 United States and France is so strong today. 317 00:12:30,516 --> 00:12:32,056 The Press: When the demonstration 318 00:12:32,051 --> 00:12:34,051 began at one o'clock in the afternoon in Paris, 319 00:12:34,053 --> 00:12:36,053 the White House sent a message at seven o'clock 320 00:12:36,055 --> 00:12:38,255 in the morning here, by email, the U.S. 321 00:12:38,257 --> 00:12:40,797 saying that there will be a summit 322 00:12:40,793 --> 00:12:44,493 to fight violent extremism. 323 00:12:44,497 --> 00:12:45,767 What is your point there? 324 00:12:45,764 --> 00:12:47,764 What do you expect from this summit? 325 00:12:47,766 --> 00:12:49,636 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me say 326 00:12:49,635 --> 00:12:50,635 a couple of things about that. 327 00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:52,936 This effort to counter violent extremism 328 00:12:52,938 --> 00:12:54,938 is something that we've talked about quite 329 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:56,510 a bit over the years. 330 00:12:56,509 --> 00:13:00,549 This has long been a focal point of our planning 331 00:13:00,546 --> 00:13:03,216 when it comes to our counterterrorism strategy. 332 00:13:06,152 --> 00:13:13,322 The other thing that I would anticipate that 333 00:13:13,325 --> 00:13:14,495 we would expect to discuss in the context of the summit 334 00:13:14,493 --> 00:13:15,993 is to invite leaders from the private sector 335 00:13:15,995 --> 00:13:20,165 and technology community to discuss how extremists 336 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:23,736 are using social media platforms to try 337 00:13:23,736 --> 00:13:30,346 to inspire acts of violence and inspire extremism -- 338 00:13:30,342 --> 00:13:33,742 expressions of extremism by other people. 339 00:13:33,746 --> 00:13:35,746 And we want to talk about strategies that we can 340 00:13:35,748 --> 00:13:38,948 employ to better promote pluralism, inclusion 341 00:13:38,951 --> 00:13:41,451 and resilience in communities all across the country. 342 00:13:41,453 --> 00:13:43,793 One of the other things that we would expect that 343 00:13:43,789 --> 00:13:46,029 we would talk about in a summit like this would 344 00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:49,165 be to highlight the experience of some pilot 345 00:13:49,161 --> 00:13:51,161 programs that have operating in cities 346 00:13:51,163 --> 00:13:53,333 like Boston, Los Angeles, and the 347 00:13:53,332 --> 00:13:56,202 Minneapolis-St. Paul area, where local officials 348 00:13:56,202 --> 00:14:01,742 have really employed some pioneering techniques 349 00:14:01,740 --> 00:14:04,880 to try to work very closely in their communities to, 350 00:14:04,877 --> 00:14:10,747 again, root out efforts to inspire and recruit 351 00:14:10,749 --> 00:14:12,619 extremists, or to propagate extremist 352 00:14:12,618 --> 00:14:14,658 ideology in a way that's not good for the country 353 00:14:14,653 --> 00:14:16,653 and certainly not good for the communities where that 354 00:14:16,655 --> 00:14:17,655 may be occurring. 355 00:14:17,656 --> 00:14:19,996 So there are some very interesting, innovative 356 00:14:19,992 --> 00:14:21,992 techniques that are being employed, and we want 357 00:14:21,994 --> 00:14:24,764 to share those best practices with other local officials 358 00:14:24,763 --> 00:14:26,303 who'd participate in this summit. 359 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:27,768 The Press: And will you 360 00:14:27,766 --> 00:14:29,766 speak about the battle against Islamist extremism? 361 00:14:29,768 --> 00:14:33,208 Mr. Earnest: Well, all forms of violent 362 00:14:33,205 --> 00:14:35,405 extremism would certainly be discussed in the 363 00:14:35,407 --> 00:14:36,507 context of this summit. 364 00:14:36,508 --> 00:14:41,618 But obviously the threat that we see from 365 00:14:41,614 --> 00:14:45,854 violent extremism in which individuals invoke 366 00:14:45,851 --> 00:14:48,891 the name of Islam, an otherwise peaceful 367 00:14:48,887 --> 00:14:52,057 religion, as they carry out these attacks would 368 00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:55,057 certainly be obviously a priority 369 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:57,030 in the discussion here. 370 00:14:57,029 --> 00:14:57,699 Ed. 371 00:14:57,696 --> 00:14:58,996 The Press: Josh, why wouldn't you 372 00:14:58,998 --> 00:15:00,998 use the phrase right there, that we are 373 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,000 going to take on Islamist extremism? 374 00:15:03,002 --> 00:15:05,002 You said all forms of violent extremism. 375 00:15:05,004 --> 00:15:07,004 Mr. Earnest: She asked me what the 376 00:15:07,006 --> 00:15:08,976 summit would discuss, and all forms of violent 377 00:15:08,974 --> 00:15:10,974 extremism would be discussed, and obviously 378 00:15:10,976 --> 00:15:16,786 the most potent and certainly the most graphic display 379 00:15:16,782 --> 00:15:18,982 that we've seen in recent days is, again, 380 00:15:18,984 --> 00:15:21,484 motivated by those individuals that seek to invoke 381 00:15:21,487 --> 00:15:23,527 the name of Islam to carry out these violent attacks. 382 00:15:23,522 --> 00:15:25,922 And that's certainly something that we want 383 00:15:25,924 --> 00:15:27,564 to work very hard to counter and mitigate, 384 00:15:27,559 --> 00:15:29,699 and we've got a strategy that we've been discussing 385 00:15:29,695 --> 00:15:30,895 for some time to exactly do that. 386 00:15:30,896 --> 00:15:31,766 The Press: So if it's the most 387 00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:33,194 potent form, according to you, of extremism, 388 00:15:33,198 --> 00:15:35,768 why isn't the summit on countering 389 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:37,368 Islamic extremism? 390 00:15:37,369 --> 00:15:38,669 Mr. Earnest: Because violent extremism 391 00:15:38,671 --> 00:15:40,071 is something that we want to be focused on, 392 00:15:40,072 --> 00:15:45,342 and it's not just Islamic violent extremism that 393 00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:46,374 we want to counter; there are other forms of -- 394 00:15:46,378 --> 00:15:47,378 The Press: The recent cases 395 00:15:47,379 --> 00:15:49,549 in Paris, Australia, Canada -- isn't the thread through 396 00:15:49,548 --> 00:15:51,818 them that it's Islamic extremism? 397 00:15:51,817 --> 00:15:52,817 Mr. Earnest: Well certainly the 398 00:15:52,818 --> 00:15:56,118 examples that you cite are examples of individuals 399 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:58,421 who have cited Islam as they've carried out 400 00:15:58,424 --> 00:16:01,364 acts of violence. 401 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,930 There's no arguing that. 402 00:16:03,929 --> 00:16:05,199 The Press: You said several times 403 00:16:05,197 --> 00:16:06,437 we should have sent someone higher than 404 00:16:06,432 --> 00:16:07,662 the ambassador. 405 00:16:07,666 --> 00:16:08,936 Mr. Earnest: With a higher profile 406 00:16:08,934 --> 00:16:10,934 than the ambassador, that's correct. 407 00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:12,936 The Press: Question: Why didn't you? 408 00:16:12,938 --> 00:16:13,938 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, I've 409 00:16:13,939 --> 00:16:16,039 sort of tried to describe to you exactly the 410 00:16:16,041 --> 00:16:19,611 situation here, that we're talking about a march that 411 00:16:19,611 --> 00:16:23,881 came together with essentially 36 hours' notice 412 00:16:23,882 --> 00:16:27,282 and a march that occurred outdoors with an 413 00:16:27,286 --> 00:16:32,396 obviously very large number of people that participated. 414 00:16:32,391 --> 00:16:34,431 We are mindful any time the President goes 415 00:16:34,426 --> 00:16:37,396 to a public place, or the Vice President for that matter, 416 00:16:37,396 --> 00:16:39,836 that we don't want -- or at least we want to try 417 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:42,832 to mitigate the impact that the security precautions 418 00:16:42,835 --> 00:16:44,835 would have on those who are participating 419 00:16:44,837 --> 00:16:45,837 in this public event. 420 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:47,878 And there's no doubt that had the President or 421 00:16:47,873 --> 00:16:50,573 Vice President on this very short timeframe gone 422 00:16:50,576 --> 00:16:52,916 to participate in this event that took place outdoors 423 00:16:52,911 --> 00:16:56,351 with more than a million people in attendance, 424 00:16:56,348 --> 00:16:57,948 that it would have significantly impacted 425 00:16:57,950 --> 00:17:00,120 the ability of those who were attending the march 426 00:17:00,119 --> 00:17:01,689 to participate in the way that they did yesterday. 427 00:17:01,687 --> 00:17:03,057 The Press: Everyone acknowledges 428 00:17:03,055 --> 00:17:04,495 the President's safety is of utmost. 429 00:17:04,490 --> 00:17:05,590 It's not an issue at all. 430 00:17:05,591 --> 00:17:07,361 Of course his security is important and you don't 431 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,559 want to detract from the event. 432 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:09,600 How do you explain then that the 433 00:17:09,595 --> 00:17:11,495 Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, 434 00:17:11,497 --> 00:17:12,897 he made it there? 435 00:17:12,898 --> 00:17:14,738 He's a huge target obviously, unfortunately. 436 00:17:14,733 --> 00:17:15,663 Mr. Earnest: Well, I will allow 437 00:17:15,667 --> 00:17:17,667 the Israelis to discuss what security precautions 438 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:18,739 they had in place. 439 00:17:18,737 --> 00:17:19,667 The Press: There were dozens of leaders 440 00:17:19,671 --> 00:17:20,671 -- dozens of leaders from countries that 441 00:17:20,672 --> 00:17:21,412 are very important. 442 00:17:21,407 --> 00:17:22,837 They're not America, but very important. 443 00:17:22,841 --> 00:17:23,711 How did they make it there? 444 00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:24,479 Mr. Earnest: I'm not suggesting that 445 00:17:24,476 --> 00:17:25,346 they aren't at all. 446 00:17:25,344 --> 00:17:26,244 The Press: How did they make it there? 447 00:17:26,245 --> 00:17:27,075 Mr. Earnest: Ed, you should 448 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:27,949 talk to them about the security precautions 449 00:17:27,946 --> 00:17:28,746 they have in place. 450 00:17:28,747 --> 00:17:30,317 You've been to enough -- look, you have been 451 00:17:30,315 --> 00:17:31,685 to enough events where the President is attending 452 00:17:31,683 --> 00:17:34,183 a conference or a summit with other world leaders, 453 00:17:34,186 --> 00:17:37,426 and I think that you have seen firsthand that the 454 00:17:37,423 --> 00:17:39,723 security precautions that are in place for the 455 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:41,365 President of the United States -- 456 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:43,000 this has been true of previous Presidents, too -- 457 00:17:42,995 --> 00:17:46,065 are sometimes more onerous than the precautions that 458 00:17:46,064 --> 00:17:47,434 are put in place for other world leaders. 459 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:48,803 The Press: Sure. 460 00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:49,631 In the Mandela funeral there were dozens 461 00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:50,535 of dozens of leaders. 462 00:17:50,536 --> 00:17:52,136 The American security might be more, 463 00:17:52,137 --> 00:17:53,777 but it comes up in short notice. 464 00:17:53,772 --> 00:17:55,842 Unfortunately, Mandela dies, and you wanted 465 00:17:55,841 --> 00:17:56,611 to be there. 466 00:17:56,608 --> 00:17:57,508 You made it. 467 00:17:57,509 --> 00:17:58,579 How did that come together then? 468 00:17:58,577 --> 00:18:00,317 Mr. Earnest: The difference with 469 00:18:00,312 --> 00:18:03,052 President Mandela is that there had been 470 00:18:03,048 --> 00:18:04,988 discussions that had been ongoing for, frankly, 471 00:18:04,983 --> 00:18:07,553 a number of years about the ceremony that would 472 00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:09,723 take place in the event of his death. 473 00:18:09,721 --> 00:18:11,121 And so there was a much clearer -- 474 00:18:11,123 --> 00:18:11,723 The Press: But you guys didn't 475 00:18:11,723 --> 00:18:12,423 know what day. 476 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:13,764 Mr. Earnest: That's right. 477 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:15,699 But there was a much clearer plan that was 478 00:18:15,694 --> 00:18:17,564 already in place that could be followed for 479 00:18:17,563 --> 00:18:19,803 executing that event on a short timeframe. 480 00:18:19,798 --> 00:18:22,038 There obviously was nothing in place because 481 00:18:22,034 --> 00:18:23,874 I don't think anybody contemplated the kind 482 00:18:23,869 --> 00:18:25,069 of attack that we saw in Paris. 483 00:18:25,070 --> 00:18:27,540 The Press: You said the 484 00:18:27,539 --> 00:18:28,539 President personally wishes -- he would have liked 485 00:18:28,540 --> 00:18:29,370 to have gone. 486 00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:30,214 Why didn't he? 487 00:18:30,209 --> 00:18:31,109 What was he doing on Sunday? 488 00:18:31,109 --> 00:18:32,409 We haven't gotten an accounting of what 489 00:18:32,411 --> 00:18:33,481 the President did Sunday. 490 00:18:33,479 --> 00:18:35,049 Mr. Earnest: I haven't spoken to the 491 00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:36,277 President about what he did yesterday. 492 00:18:36,281 --> 00:18:37,721 The Press: Why not? 493 00:18:37,716 --> 00:18:39,816 you've said many times -- the most transparent 494 00:18:39,818 --> 00:18:41,418 administration -- what was the President doing? 495 00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:42,350 Mr. Earnest: Ed, I guess I prepared 496 00:18:42,354 --> 00:18:43,754 for a lot of questions today, but I did not 497 00:18:43,755 --> 00:18:46,095 prepare for a question based on what the President 498 00:18:46,091 --> 00:18:47,191 was actually doing yesterday. 499 00:18:47,192 --> 00:18:48,732 The Press: You didn't -- okay. 500 00:18:48,727 --> 00:18:50,567 Attorney General Eric Holder was in Paris, 501 00:18:50,562 --> 00:18:52,332 and they put out a statement -- his office 502 00:18:52,331 --> 00:18:53,871 -- saying that he had very important meetings. 503 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:56,006 No one would counter that the counterterror 504 00:18:56,001 --> 00:18:57,271 meetings were very important. 505 00:18:57,269 --> 00:18:58,669 One would assume that the French officials 506 00:18:58,670 --> 00:19:00,340 who attended those meetings -- some of them, 507 00:19:00,339 --> 00:19:01,979 anyway -- probably went to this rally. 508 00:19:01,974 --> 00:19:05,144 And the Attorney General's office says that he had 509 00:19:05,143 --> 00:19:07,513 to get back to Washington on Sunday afternoon; 510 00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:09,453 that was one reason why he couldn't make the rally. 511 00:19:09,448 --> 00:19:10,378 Why couldn't the Attorney General? 512 00:19:10,382 --> 00:19:11,452 He was in that city. 513 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:13,990 So there's no issue of -- security was already in place. 514 00:19:13,986 --> 00:19:15,116 How could he not attend? 515 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,190 Mr. Earnest: Ed, I am not aware 516 00:19:16,188 --> 00:19:17,558 of the details of the Attorney General's 517 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:20,156 schedule for yesterday. 518 00:19:20,158 --> 00:19:22,258 But if you are asking whether or not somebody 519 00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:24,831 like the Attorney General should have attended or should have 520 00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:27,030 been asked by the White House to attend, what I am telling 521 00:19:27,032 --> 00:19:28,702 you is that, yes, we believe somebody with 522 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:30,900 a higher profile should have been asked to attend. 523 00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:31,473 The Press: What about this 524 00:19:31,470 --> 00:19:32,470 rally in D.C.? 525 00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:33,771 There was a rally, I believe it was 526 00:19:33,772 --> 00:19:35,672 a march from the Newseum to the French Embassy. 527 00:19:35,674 --> 00:19:37,174 We should note the President did go to the 528 00:19:37,175 --> 00:19:38,745 French Embassy last week, obviously. 529 00:19:38,744 --> 00:19:40,244 He signed a condolence book, he expressed his 530 00:19:40,245 --> 00:19:42,145 solidarity with the French people. 531 00:19:42,147 --> 00:19:43,987 But I understand the President is probably 532 00:19:43,982 --> 00:19:45,282 not going to go marching through the streets 533 00:19:45,284 --> 00:19:48,084 of D.C., but the White House Chief of Staff, 534 00:19:48,086 --> 00:19:51,686 the Vice President, a Cabinet secretary somewhere -- 535 00:19:51,690 --> 00:19:55,330 how come you didn't have someone in D.C. at a rally? 536 00:19:55,327 --> 00:19:57,267 Mr. Earnest: Well, Ed, I know 537 00:19:57,262 --> 00:19:57,892 that there were a number of administration officials 538 00:19:57,896 --> 00:19:59,266 that did participate in that rally. 539 00:19:59,264 --> 00:20:00,934 I think a lot of them -- or in that march 540 00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:02,833 -- and I think a lot of them participated 541 00:20:02,834 --> 00:20:04,834 -- would have done so even if they weren't members 542 00:20:04,836 --> 00:20:06,176 of the administration. 543 00:20:06,171 --> 00:20:10,371 But I can tell you, Ed, that for all of this talk, 544 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:12,675 there is no doubt, and there should be no doubt, 545 00:20:12,678 --> 00:20:14,378 about this commitment of the administration and the 546 00:20:14,379 --> 00:20:16,449 commitment of the American people to standing 547 00:20:16,448 --> 00:20:18,718 shoulder to shoulder with our allies in France 548 00:20:18,717 --> 00:20:20,157 as they deal with the aftermath of these 549 00:20:20,152 --> 00:20:22,292 terrible terrorist attacks and as they continue 550 00:20:22,287 --> 00:20:24,387 the fight for the kinds of values that we hold 551 00:20:24,389 --> 00:20:26,089 so dear on both sides of the Atlantic. 552 00:20:26,091 --> 00:20:28,531 Justin. 553 00:20:28,527 --> 00:20:30,327 The Press: I want to talk about 554 00:20:30,329 --> 00:20:34,469 cyber, but I had a question on the anti-extremism summit. 555 00:20:34,466 --> 00:20:36,666 It had been originally scheduled for October, 556 00:20:36,668 --> 00:20:39,138 or it was supposed to be in October and then it seemed 557 00:20:39,137 --> 00:20:40,507 like it was delayed a couple times. 558 00:20:40,505 --> 00:20:42,945 Could you just talk about why that was delayed, 559 00:20:42,941 --> 00:20:45,041 why it didn't happen back in October? 560 00:20:45,043 --> 00:20:47,743 Mr. Earnest: Well, there have 561 00:20:47,746 --> 00:20:51,286 been a number of discussions about how exactly -- 562 00:20:51,283 --> 00:20:52,783 about how this was going to come together. 563 00:20:52,784 --> 00:20:55,854 And trying to schedule among state and 564 00:20:55,854 --> 00:20:58,654 local leaders, leaders in the private sector, 565 00:20:58,657 --> 00:21:01,297 community leaders from other places across 566 00:21:01,293 --> 00:21:03,663 the country is difficult. 567 00:21:03,662 --> 00:21:06,262 But I guess I can say that -- what I would say 568 00:21:06,264 --> 00:21:08,204 is that this is something that we've been focused 569 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,740 on for quite some time; that this notion of countering 570 00:21:10,736 --> 00:21:13,576 violent extremism has been a central focal point 571 00:21:13,572 --> 00:21:15,712 of our counterterrorism strategy for a long time, 572 00:21:15,707 --> 00:21:20,947 dating back to February of 2010, when then-Assistant 573 00:21:20,946 --> 00:21:22,516 to the President for Homeland Security 574 00:21:22,514 --> 00:21:25,684 and current CIA Director John Brennan gave a speech 575 00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:29,154 at NYU's Islamic Center and the Islamic Law Students 576 00:21:29,154 --> 00:21:34,364 Association at NYU where they discussed the need 577 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,899 to counter efforts to recruit people in the name 578 00:21:37,896 --> 00:21:39,896 of violent extremism, and the efforts -- and the need 579 00:21:39,898 --> 00:21:42,598 to work closely with local law enforcement and with 580 00:21:42,601 --> 00:21:48,111 community leaders to try to counter that message. 581 00:21:48,106 --> 00:21:49,976 The Press: So was the scheduling 582 00:21:49,975 --> 00:21:52,215 incidental, like you were just able to corral everybody? 583 00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:54,650 Or was Paris kind of an impetus that enabled 584 00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:57,686 you to bring people in for this meeting next month? 585 00:21:57,683 --> 00:21:59,383 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess what 586 00:21:59,384 --> 00:22:03,654 I would say is that this -- certainly, that the tragic 587 00:22:03,655 --> 00:22:08,125 events that we saw in Paris last week are a reminder 588 00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:09,966 of how important it is for us to be vigilant about this 589 00:22:09,961 --> 00:22:12,001 specific issue. 590 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:14,937 And this summit, as I have described earlier, will 591 00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:18,203 be an important opportunity for us to talk about some 592 00:22:18,203 --> 00:22:20,803 of the strategies that we have in place, to mitigate 593 00:22:20,806 --> 00:22:23,546 the messages that are emanating in social media 594 00:22:23,542 --> 00:22:27,412 to try recruit people in the name of violent extremism. 595 00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:30,082 And we certainly also look forward to the opportunity 596 00:22:30,082 --> 00:22:33,382 to hearing from local officials and leaders 597 00:22:33,385 --> 00:22:35,825 of communities all across the country about how 598 00:22:35,821 --> 00:22:38,861 they've worked together in a way to mitigate 599 00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:40,857 those messages and to counter them. 600 00:22:40,859 --> 00:22:42,859 And it should be an opportunity for those 601 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:44,931 kinds of best practices to be shared with local 602 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:46,930 officials from all across the country that will 603 00:22:46,932 --> 00:22:47,762 participate in this event. 604 00:22:47,766 --> 00:22:48,936 The Press: All right. 605 00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:50,934 And then on cyber, the President said today 606 00:22:50,936 --> 00:22:52,936 that he's going to announce legislation tomorrow 607 00:22:52,938 --> 00:22:56,208 to encourage collaboration between companies and 608 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:59,008 the government on cybersecurity practices 609 00:22:59,010 --> 00:23:00,010 and information. 610 00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:02,381 But it sounds a lot like CISPA, which is the 611 00:23:02,380 --> 00:23:04,550 legislation that's been kind of languishing 612 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:06,989 on Capitol Hill for a couple of years, 613 00:23:06,985 --> 00:23:08,955 you guys had voiced concerns about that before. 614 00:23:08,954 --> 00:23:10,694 So I'm wondering, has that changed? 615 00:23:10,689 --> 00:23:12,529 Or are we going to hear a different version 616 00:23:12,524 --> 00:23:14,794 of that legislation tomorrow? 617 00:23:14,793 --> 00:23:16,233 Mr. Earnest: Well, we'll save 618 00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:17,768 tomorrow's news for tomorrow. 619 00:23:17,763 --> 00:23:19,763 But you have heard me say on a number 620 00:23:19,765 --> 00:23:23,135 of occasions that we've been pretty disappointed that 621 00:23:23,135 --> 00:23:25,305 Congress has not fulfilled their responsibility 622 00:23:25,303 --> 00:23:27,303 that they have to deal with this 623 00:23:27,305 --> 00:23:28,945 critically important issue. 624 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:30,940 And that's why you heard the President 625 00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:33,182 talk a little bit today about some legislative 626 00:23:33,178 --> 00:23:35,178 proposals that he's going to send 627 00:23:35,180 --> 00:23:39,080 up in the name of strengthening consumer protections 628 00:23:39,084 --> 00:23:41,454 and making sure that consumers and students 629 00:23:41,453 --> 00:23:43,453 get the kind of protection and assurances that 630 00:23:43,455 --> 00:23:46,725 they deserve when it comes to their privacy. 631 00:23:46,725 --> 00:23:48,795 We would hope that that would not be something 632 00:23:48,794 --> 00:23:51,164 that would get bogged down in partisan debates. 633 00:23:51,163 --> 00:23:52,163 This is something we should all 634 00:23:52,164 --> 00:23:53,194 be able to agree on. 635 00:23:53,198 --> 00:23:54,198 We'll see. 636 00:23:54,199 --> 00:23:56,869 I think the same thing -- same description could 637 00:23:56,868 --> 00:23:58,938 apply to the kinds of cybersecurity 638 00:23:58,937 --> 00:24:00,937 legislation that the President looks forward 639 00:24:00,939 --> 00:24:01,939 to talking about tomorrow. 640 00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,940 But for the details of that, we'll have more 641 00:24:03,942 --> 00:24:04,612 on that for you. 642 00:24:04,609 --> 00:24:05,949 The Press: Well, Senator Thune 643 00:24:05,944 --> 00:24:07,944 issued a statement today saying that 644 00:24:07,946 --> 00:24:09,216 the President had gone kind of absent on the 645 00:24:09,214 --> 00:24:10,554 cybersecurity measures. 646 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:12,079 I think I asked you a couple of weeks ago 647 00:24:12,083 --> 00:24:14,423 if you guys were bringing people in for briefings 648 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:17,959 or pushing this type of thing. 649 00:24:17,956 --> 00:24:19,956 One of the proposals the President unveiled today 650 00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:23,328 actually is kind of a recast of this 651 00:24:23,328 --> 00:24:26,698 2011 proposal; now it's 30 days instead of 60 days 652 00:24:26,698 --> 00:24:29,638 to trigger a data breach notification. 653 00:24:29,634 --> 00:24:31,634 So why is it going to be different? 654 00:24:31,636 --> 00:24:33,476 And what are you guys going to do differently 655 00:24:33,471 --> 00:24:34,811 this time to kind of encourage 656 00:24:34,806 --> 00:24:36,206 it to move on the Hill? 657 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:37,308 Mr. Earnest: Well, I do think that 658 00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:40,279 certainly in the aftermath of some of the more recent 659 00:24:40,278 --> 00:24:43,218 cyber-attacks that we've seen that have been 660 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:45,815 carried out against a number of private 661 00:24:45,817 --> 00:24:49,787 companies -- including most recently Sony 662 00:24:49,788 --> 00:24:51,788 -- hopefully that got the attention of people 663 00:24:51,790 --> 00:24:53,790 on Capitol Hill, that they actually need 664 00:24:53,792 --> 00:24:55,792 to fulfill their responsibilities 665 00:24:55,794 --> 00:24:57,794 to actually make progress on this issue. 666 00:24:57,796 --> 00:25:00,496 And the proposal that we have sent up, or will send 667 00:25:00,498 --> 00:25:06,238 up, is one that does have the strong support 668 00:25:06,238 --> 00:25:08,238 of consumer groups because they recognize how 669 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,240 important it is for companies to fulfill 670 00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:12,242 their obligations to communicate clearly with 671 00:25:12,244 --> 00:25:14,244 their consumers and their customers to make sure 672 00:25:14,246 --> 00:25:16,246 those customers can take appropriate steps 673 00:25:16,248 --> 00:25:19,048 to protect their privacy and protect against 674 00:25:19,050 --> 00:25:21,090 identity theft. 675 00:25:21,086 --> 00:25:23,656 At the same time, this is also welcome news 676 00:25:23,655 --> 00:25:28,495 to industry, because this clarity associated 677 00:25:28,493 --> 00:25:31,733 with one specific national standard would make 678 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:34,630 it clear to them what sort of obligations they need 679 00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:36,673 to fulfill to their customers. 680 00:25:36,668 --> 00:25:38,668 Right now there's a little bit of a hodge-podge 681 00:25:38,670 --> 00:25:41,140 of requirements that vary by state. 682 00:25:41,139 --> 00:25:45,079 And by putting in place a tough national standard, 683 00:25:45,076 --> 00:25:47,776 it will add some clarity to businesses and make 684 00:25:47,779 --> 00:25:50,819 them more effective in their response and more 685 00:25:50,815 --> 00:25:53,185 effective in communicating with their customers 686 00:25:53,184 --> 00:25:55,484 in a timeline that's appropriate and will 687 00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:59,187 ensure that customers can keep their privacy safe. 688 00:25:59,190 --> 00:26:00,190 Jon. 689 00:26:00,191 --> 00:26:01,961 The Press: Josh, will the 690 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,260 United States take part in any retaliation 691 00:26:06,264 --> 00:26:09,504 once it's established who was responsible behind? 692 00:26:09,501 --> 00:26:13,241 If AQAP was determined to have been behind this 693 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:18,048 attack in Paris, or ISIS proves to have been behind 694 00:26:18,043 --> 00:26:20,383 it, will there be a response that will 695 00:26:20,378 --> 00:26:21,618 include the United States? 696 00:26:21,613 --> 00:26:25,013 Mr. Earnest: Jon, a possible response 697 00:26:25,016 --> 00:26:27,016 is not something that I'm in a position 698 00:26:27,018 --> 00:26:29,358 to talk about at this point. 699 00:26:29,354 --> 00:26:31,494 The two organizations that you cite are obviously 700 00:26:31,489 --> 00:26:34,529 under intense pressure from the United States 701 00:26:34,526 --> 00:26:38,366 and our allies already. 702 00:26:38,363 --> 00:26:40,363 And I would anticipate that that 703 00:26:40,365 --> 00:26:41,365 pressure will continue. 704 00:26:41,366 --> 00:26:43,336 But that would have been the case even 705 00:26:43,335 --> 00:26:45,875 if we had not seen these terrible terror attacks 706 00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:47,610 carried out last week. 707 00:26:47,605 --> 00:26:50,775 But we're going to work closely with the French 708 00:26:50,775 --> 00:26:53,175 as they investigate exactly what happened. 709 00:26:53,178 --> 00:26:55,818 I know that there is some information about two 710 00:26:55,814 --> 00:26:58,884 of the individuals that the United States has been 711 00:26:58,883 --> 00:27:01,283 aware of and shared with our French counterparts, 712 00:27:01,286 --> 00:27:03,986 including some information about their travel history. 713 00:27:06,124 --> 00:27:08,894 But at this point I'm not in a position to speculate 714 00:27:08,893 --> 00:27:12,063 about what sort of response the French 715 00:27:12,063 --> 00:27:14,063 may decide is appropriate and what sort of role 716 00:27:14,065 --> 00:27:16,035 the United States would play in that response. 717 00:27:16,034 --> 00:27:17,034 The Press: Are we losing ground 718 00:27:17,035 --> 00:27:18,035 in the war on terror? 719 00:27:18,036 --> 00:27:21,176 We obviously have this terrible attack in Paris. 720 00:27:21,172 --> 00:27:25,382 I asked you last week about what has happened 721 00:27:25,377 --> 00:27:28,917 with Boko Haram in Nigeria; they've gained 722 00:27:28,913 --> 00:27:32,313 incredible territory, they've taken over 723 00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:35,087 a military base. 724 00:27:35,086 --> 00:27:39,326 Obviously, we have the ongoing efforts 725 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:42,994 in Syria and in Iraq. 726 00:27:42,994 --> 00:27:46,564 It looks a lot messier out there than it did 727 00:27:46,564 --> 00:27:49,564 when the President was talking just a year ago 728 00:27:49,567 --> 00:27:52,607 about decimating core al Qaeda and just the JV 729 00:27:52,604 --> 00:27:54,004 team being out there. 730 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:55,975 Are we -- give me like a status 731 00:27:55,974 --> 00:27:57,744 report on the war on terror. 732 00:27:57,742 --> 00:27:59,742 Mr. Earnest: Well, there certainly are 733 00:27:59,744 --> 00:28:01,044 experts who are better positioned to do that than I. 734 00:28:01,046 --> 00:28:02,546 But let me give you -- 735 00:28:02,547 --> 00:28:03,247 The Press: But what's the 736 00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:04,448 White House view on this? 737 00:28:04,449 --> 00:28:07,349 Mr. Earnest: Let me take a run at this. 738 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:12,622 Our counterterrorism officials say that the 739 00:28:12,624 --> 00:28:15,294 biggest challenge, one of the most difficult things 740 00:28:15,293 --> 00:28:18,893 to detect and disrupt are attacks that are carried 741 00:28:18,897 --> 00:28:23,867 out by lone offenders or by foreign fighters. 742 00:28:23,868 --> 00:28:25,868 There are certainly a wide range of steps that 743 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:27,540 we can take and are taking. 744 00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,539 I talked about some of them earlier 745 00:28:29,541 --> 00:28:32,141 in terms of trying to counter the extremist ideology 746 00:28:32,143 --> 00:28:34,183 that's propagated on social media. 747 00:28:34,179 --> 00:28:36,179 There certainly are steps that this administration 748 00:28:36,181 --> 00:28:38,181 takes to monitor the movements of individuals 749 00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:40,183 that have recently traveled to areas 750 00:28:40,185 --> 00:28:43,985 like Syria where it's possible they may have 751 00:28:43,988 --> 00:28:49,598 sought training with militants in that region of the world. 752 00:28:49,594 --> 00:28:51,594 The President, as you will recall, 753 00:28:51,596 --> 00:28:54,236 last fall convened a United Nations Security Council 754 00:28:54,232 --> 00:28:57,832 meeting where he discussed with other world leaders 755 00:28:57,836 --> 00:29:01,436 the need to coordinate activities as we counter 756 00:29:01,439 --> 00:29:03,439 the threat from foreign fighters. 757 00:29:03,441 --> 00:29:05,441 These are individuals with Western passports that 758 00:29:05,443 --> 00:29:07,183 travel to Syria or Iraq. 759 00:29:07,178 --> 00:29:09,178 They do pose a threat when they return from that 760 00:29:09,180 --> 00:29:11,180 region that they may carry out acts of violence 761 00:29:11,182 --> 00:29:13,182 in their home countries, and that's something that 762 00:29:13,184 --> 00:29:14,184 we're very aware of. 763 00:29:14,185 --> 00:29:18,285 And it requires a very high level of coordination 764 00:29:18,289 --> 00:29:21,359 to monitor the movements of those individuals. 765 00:29:21,359 --> 00:29:23,359 And we're going to continue to be engaged 766 00:29:23,361 --> 00:29:27,501 in a very high level of coordination with the 767 00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:30,699 French not just as they investigate this specific 768 00:29:30,702 --> 00:29:33,402 attack, but also as we assess the threat from 769 00:29:33,404 --> 00:29:36,244 other individuals and other entities that may 770 00:29:36,241 --> 00:29:38,881 be operating and may aspire to carry out acts 771 00:29:38,877 --> 00:29:41,717 of violence against Westerners or against 772 00:29:41,713 --> 00:29:42,713 American interests. 773 00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,714 The Press: But I'm asking if you 774 00:29:44,716 --> 00:29:46,656 look at developments over the past year, you look 775 00:29:46,651 --> 00:29:48,691 at the lone wolf attacks in Ottawa and in Australia, 776 00:29:48,686 --> 00:29:54,726 you look at this attack in Paris by terrorists that 777 00:29:54,726 --> 00:29:57,666 may well be tied to both al Qaeda in the 778 00:29:57,662 --> 00:30:01,832 Arabian Peninsula and ISIS, you have what Boko Haram 779 00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:04,833 has done in Nigeria, and you have our inability 780 00:30:04,836 --> 00:30:11,806 to push ISIS out of Iraq -- I mean, isn't it a fair 781 00:30:11,809 --> 00:30:14,879 assessment to say it looks like we are losing ground 782 00:30:14,879 --> 00:30:16,879 or the terrorists are beginning to get an upper hand? 783 00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:19,821 Not to mention the latest development today with 784 00:30:19,817 --> 00:30:22,117 a terrorist group apparently, or at least 785 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,390 they're sympathizers with a terrorist group, taking over 786 00:30:26,391 --> 00:30:28,161 CENTCOM's Twitter account, its YouTube channel. 787 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:34,969 I mean, it seems like some lost momentum, doesn't it? 788 00:30:34,966 --> 00:30:36,966 Mr. Earnest: No, I don't share that 789 00:30:36,968 --> 00:30:37,968 assessment at all, Jon. 790 00:30:37,969 --> 00:30:40,909 On the military side, we can run through some 791 00:30:40,905 --> 00:30:41,905 statistics here. 792 00:30:41,906 --> 00:30:44,206 Over the skies of Iraq there are now seven countries 793 00:30:44,209 --> 00:30:47,609 that are flying combat missions alongside U.S. forces. 794 00:30:47,612 --> 00:30:48,542 In Syria -- 795 00:30:48,546 --> 00:30:50,546 The Press: ISIS still controls Mosul. 796 00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:52,548 Mr. Earnest: In Syria, there are 797 00:30:52,550 --> 00:30:54,550 four nations that are flying with the United States. 798 00:30:54,552 --> 00:30:56,552 And to date, that coalition has conducted 799 00:30:56,554 --> 00:30:58,554 over 1,700 airstrikes against ISIL terrorists, 800 00:30:58,556 --> 00:31:01,526 more than 960 of them in Iraq and close to 790 801 00:31:01,526 --> 00:31:03,896 of them in Syria. 802 00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:06,665 That means that regularly our coalition is taking 803 00:31:06,664 --> 00:31:09,034 out ISIL fighters, their commanders, hundreds 804 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:11,203 of vehicles and tanks, nearly 260 805 00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:13,042 oil and gas facilities. 806 00:31:13,037 --> 00:31:15,037 This is the infrastructure that affects -- 807 00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:19,079 that funds their acts of terror. 808 00:31:19,077 --> 00:31:21,447 They've also taken out more than 1,000 fighting 809 00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:23,786 positions, checkpoints, buildings, barracks 810 00:31:23,781 --> 00:31:27,521 in and around -- in Iraq and in Syria. 811 00:31:27,518 --> 00:31:29,518 That's the reason that ISIL's momentum has been 812 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,630 blunted in Iraq, and it is why their leaders are 813 00:31:33,625 --> 00:31:37,525 feeling more pressure than they ever have before. 814 00:31:37,528 --> 00:31:42,068 And all of that is a testament to the success 815 00:31:42,066 --> 00:31:44,066 that this President has had in building 816 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:46,068 an international coalition to degrade 817 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:47,210 and ultimately destroy ISIL. 818 00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:50,345 What's also true is that the threat that we face 819 00:31:50,341 --> 00:31:55,781 now is very dispersed, and that does pose a set 820 00:31:55,780 --> 00:31:57,480 of unique challenges. 821 00:31:57,482 --> 00:32:02,752 But there is, as tragic as the events were in France 822 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:07,194 last week, a difference between the ability 823 00:32:07,191 --> 00:32:11,431 of core al Qaeda to spend years on a conspiracy 824 00:32:11,429 --> 00:32:13,529 involving dozens of individuals in the 825 00:32:13,531 --> 00:32:15,601 United States to carry out horrific attacks, 826 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,200 like they did on September 11th, 2001, 827 00:32:19,203 --> 00:32:21,473 and the terribly violent actions of one 828 00:32:21,472 --> 00:32:24,142 or two or three individuals. 829 00:32:24,142 --> 00:32:27,682 It's a different kind of threat and it is one that 830 00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:30,619 poses its own unique set of challenges. 831 00:32:30,615 --> 00:32:34,685 And it is why we can talk about the success that 832 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:38,286 we have had in truly decimating core al Qaeda 833 00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:41,359 that used to exist and operate with impunity 834 00:32:41,359 --> 00:32:44,059 in the region between Afghanistan and Pakistan, 835 00:32:44,062 --> 00:32:47,002 and the kind of threat that we face now from 836 00:32:46,998 --> 00:32:49,438 individuals who in many cases are being 837 00:32:49,434 --> 00:32:52,804 radicalized through social media and carrying out 838 00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:58,114 either lone wolf attacks or are individuals who 839 00:32:58,109 --> 00:32:59,449 have traveled to the region and gotten some 840 00:32:59,444 --> 00:33:02,714 expertise and returned to the fight. 841 00:33:02,714 --> 00:33:04,714 This is all something that we're very mindful of, 842 00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:07,756 and I'm not in a position to downplay the risk 843 00:33:07,752 --> 00:33:10,392 associated with all this, but it is important 844 00:33:10,388 --> 00:33:13,988 to understand the kind of pressure that these 845 00:33:13,991 --> 00:33:16,591 leading extremists -- or the individuals who are 846 00:33:16,594 --> 00:33:18,694 leading these extremist groups are under right now. 847 00:33:18,696 --> 00:33:20,696 And they're under that pressure because of the 848 00:33:20,698 --> 00:33:22,698 counterterrorism strategy that this 849 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:23,770 administration has put in place. 850 00:33:23,768 --> 00:33:24,938 The Press: So if I can just do 851 00:33:24,936 --> 00:33:25,666 a couple quick ones on the march. 852 00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:27,000 You said you should have sent somebody with 853 00:33:27,004 --> 00:33:28,144 a higher profile. 854 00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:29,979 Why? 855 00:33:29,974 --> 00:33:30,874 Mr. Earnest: Well, I guess for 856 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:31,945 a couple of reasons. 857 00:33:31,943 --> 00:33:36,953 One is we want to send a clear message, even 858 00:33:36,948 --> 00:33:40,848 in a symbolic context like this one, that the 859 00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:42,822 American people stand shoulder to shoulder 860 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:45,120 with our allies in France. 861 00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:49,763 And sending a high-level, highly visible senior 862 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,901 administration officials with a high profile to that 863 00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:54,436 march would have done that. 864 00:33:54,432 --> 00:33:59,072 That said, in reality there is no doubting the strong 865 00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:04,680 degree of support and allegiance that we share with 866 00:34:04,675 --> 00:34:07,245 the French people to the kinds of values that were 867 00:34:07,245 --> 00:34:09,815 under attack last week in Paris. 868 00:34:09,814 --> 00:34:12,114 And that is evidenced by the President's call with 869 00:34:12,116 --> 00:34:14,116 President Hollande; the President's visit to 870 00:34:14,118 --> 00:34:16,788 the French Embassy here in Washington last week; 871 00:34:16,788 --> 00:34:21,998 the close level of coordination that exists between 872 00:34:21,993 --> 00:34:23,223 counterterrorism officials in the United States 873 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,497 and counterterrorism officials in France 874 00:34:25,496 --> 00:34:27,496 in the ongoing meetings, including the one that's 875 00:34:27,498 --> 00:34:29,938 probably taking place right now between the French Ambassador 876 00:34:29,934 --> 00:34:32,274 and the President's top counterterrorism advisor. 877 00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:33,770 The Press: So you acknowledge 878 00:34:33,771 --> 00:34:35,141 it was a mistake not to send somebody higher profile 879 00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:37,039 to that march in Paris. 880 00:34:37,041 --> 00:34:40,311 Whose mistake was it? 881 00:34:40,311 --> 00:34:43,051 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jon, I'm not 882 00:34:43,047 --> 00:34:46,747 going to be in a position to sort of unpack the logistical 883 00:34:46,751 --> 00:34:49,791 and scheduling conversations that have taken place here 884 00:34:49,787 --> 00:34:52,387 at the White House over the last several days. 885 00:34:52,390 --> 00:34:56,330 But what I can do is acknowledge to you that 886 00:34:56,327 --> 00:34:58,627 we should have sent somebody with a higher profile. 887 00:34:58,629 --> 00:35:00,969 Richard. 888 00:35:00,965 --> 00:35:02,435 The Press: I just want to go back 889 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:04,133 to the summit in February. 890 00:35:04,135 --> 00:35:06,835 I just want to make clear -- are foreign leaders 891 00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:07,708 invited to this summit? 892 00:35:07,705 --> 00:35:10,105 Mr. Earnest: I don't have an exact 893 00:35:10,107 --> 00:35:12,647 invite list to present at this point, but 894 00:35:12,643 --> 00:35:14,643 we certainly would welcome the participation 895 00:35:14,645 --> 00:35:17,245 of people from other countries, if they chose to do so. 896 00:35:17,248 --> 00:35:21,148 I think the focal point, however, will be on the 897 00:35:21,152 --> 00:35:23,422 efforts that local communities all across 898 00:35:23,421 --> 00:35:26,061 the country have undertaken to try to counter this threat 899 00:35:26,057 --> 00:35:28,257 in their individual communities and to talk 900 00:35:28,259 --> 00:35:30,259 about some of the strategies that the 901 00:35:30,261 --> 00:35:34,331 United States would employ to protect American citizens. 902 00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:36,772 But I wouldn't rule out necessarily that there may 903 00:35:36,767 --> 00:35:40,167 be an opportunity for non-Americans 904 00:35:40,171 --> 00:35:40,841 to participate as well. 905 00:35:40,838 --> 00:35:43,308 The Press: And I just want to go 906 00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:44,407 a little further, Josh. 907 00:35:44,408 --> 00:35:46,778 Is it a show -- are we going to try to make 908 00:35:46,777 --> 00:35:49,577 it a show of solidarity in front of violent 909 00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:52,980 extremism, or is it going to be like a technical 910 00:35:52,984 --> 00:35:55,124 summit where people are going to come up, 911 00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:58,959 foreigners or local -- or Americans with their ideas 912 00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:02,756 and their -- the thing to build up to face this? 913 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,060 Mr. Earnest: I would anticipate that 914 00:36:05,062 --> 00:36:07,062 you can describe this as a working event. 915 00:36:07,064 --> 00:36:09,064 This is an opportunity for us to take a very close 916 00:36:09,066 --> 00:36:11,166 look at policies that are in place to protect the 917 00:36:11,168 --> 00:36:14,268 American people and to review, again, in very 918 00:36:14,272 --> 00:36:17,172 detailed fashion some of the best practices that 919 00:36:17,174 --> 00:36:20,674 have been used by other communities to build 920 00:36:20,678 --> 00:36:23,148 strong connections between local enforcement 921 00:36:23,147 --> 00:36:26,517 officials and community leaders to protect those 922 00:36:26,517 --> 00:36:30,117 communities and to try to counter the kind 923 00:36:30,121 --> 00:36:34,491 of extremist messaging that we see on social media 924 00:36:34,492 --> 00:36:36,492 that's targeted at disaffected individuals. 925 00:36:36,494 --> 00:36:38,494 And we want to make sure that we're working with 926 00:36:38,496 --> 00:36:40,636 community leaders and law enforcement to counter 927 00:36:40,631 --> 00:36:42,771 that messaging and to protect our communities. 928 00:36:42,767 --> 00:36:43,897 Alexis. 929 00:36:43,901 --> 00:36:45,741 The Press: Josh, two quick questions. 930 00:36:45,736 --> 00:36:48,936 What does the President believe is the right 931 00:36:48,940 --> 00:36:51,310 approach to take to an English-language 932 00:36:51,309 --> 00:36:54,009 propaganda magazine like "Inspire"? 933 00:36:54,011 --> 00:36:56,751 Because that's come up so much this weekend 934 00:36:56,747 --> 00:37:02,057 as enjoining and encouraging violent extremism. 935 00:37:02,053 --> 00:37:05,323 Mr. Earnest: Well, the focal point 936 00:37:05,323 --> 00:37:12,163 of our countering violent extremism efforts has been 937 00:37:12,163 --> 00:37:15,433 on countering the extremist messaging that's 938 00:37:15,433 --> 00:37:18,003 propagated so broadly out there in the Internet. 939 00:37:18,002 --> 00:37:20,942 And this is a unique challenge that 940 00:37:20,938 --> 00:37:23,538 counterterrorism officials have to deal with. 941 00:37:23,541 --> 00:37:26,311 As recently as 15 or 20 years ago, this 942 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:28,310 is obviously not much that they had to contemplate 943 00:37:28,312 --> 00:37:31,512 because the Internet wasn't so well developed. 944 00:37:31,515 --> 00:37:34,185 And so this does pose a pretty unique challenge, 945 00:37:34,185 --> 00:37:40,595 and it's one that we spend a lot of time working on. 946 00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:43,791 Let me tell you a couple of ways in which 947 00:37:43,794 --> 00:37:46,564 we have tried to counter this. 948 00:37:46,564 --> 00:37:48,734 The first is by encouraging moderate 949 00:37:48,733 --> 00:37:52,833 voices, particularly in the Muslim community, 950 00:37:52,837 --> 00:37:56,307 to speak up and speak out against this. 951 00:37:56,307 --> 00:37:58,407 That as Muslim leaders would tell you -- 952 00:37:58,409 --> 00:38:00,409 those who have studied and practiced this religion 953 00:38:00,411 --> 00:38:02,551 would tell you -- Islam is a peaceful religion. 954 00:38:02,546 --> 00:38:07,916 And the kinds of violent acts that are advocated 955 00:38:07,918 --> 00:38:12,858 in the outlet that you have described is entirely 956 00:38:12,857 --> 00:38:14,857 inconsistent with the basic principles 957 00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:16,229 of that peaceful religion. 958 00:38:16,227 --> 00:38:18,397 And what's important is not just for me to stand 959 00:38:18,396 --> 00:38:21,036 up here and say that, but for respected leaders 960 00:38:21,032 --> 00:38:23,032 in the Muslim community to come forward and 961 00:38:23,034 --> 00:38:25,034 say that, not just in the United States but 962 00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:26,006 around the world. 963 00:38:26,003 --> 00:38:28,003 And there have been religious leaders 964 00:38:28,005 --> 00:38:30,005 in other countries that have issued religious edicts 965 00:38:30,007 --> 00:38:33,447 outlawing this kind of extremism and violence. 966 00:38:33,444 --> 00:38:38,554 And that is helpful in this effort. 967 00:38:38,549 --> 00:38:40,549 The second thing that I think is worth noting -- 968 00:38:40,551 --> 00:38:43,691 and this goes a little bit to Jon's question, I guess 969 00:38:43,688 --> 00:38:49,798 -- is that the original author of this publication 970 00:38:49,794 --> 00:38:52,134 has been wiped off the battlefield. 971 00:38:52,129 --> 00:38:56,539 And, again, that is a testament to the kind 972 00:38:56,534 --> 00:38:59,234 of pressure that these terrorist leaders are 973 00:38:59,236 --> 00:39:01,576 under -- that they are being watched, that 974 00:39:01,572 --> 00:39:04,112 they're being monitored, and they are at risk 975 00:39:04,108 --> 00:39:08,378 whenever they are out operating publicly, 976 00:39:08,379 --> 00:39:11,319 even when they're operating publicly in a place like 977 00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:15,185 Yemen; it seems really far away. 978 00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:16,886 But we recognize the threat that these 979 00:39:16,887 --> 00:39:18,457 individuals face, and because of the 980 00:39:18,456 --> 00:39:20,196 counterterrorism strategy that this President has 981 00:39:20,191 --> 00:39:22,231 put in place, those extremist leaders are 982 00:39:22,226 --> 00:39:24,796 under intense pressure and many of them have been 983 00:39:24,795 --> 00:39:26,565 wiped off the battlefield. 984 00:39:26,564 --> 00:39:27,394 The Press: Just to follow up, 985 00:39:27,398 --> 00:39:31,438 because the creator of "Inspire" is dead, 986 00:39:31,435 --> 00:39:34,005 is the President concerned just that 987 00:39:34,004 --> 00:39:36,474 the statement that you just made, that the 988 00:39:36,474 --> 00:39:40,174 messengers will be killed, has itself been 989 00:39:40,177 --> 00:39:44,447 an inspiration to violent extremists? 990 00:39:44,448 --> 00:39:46,518 Mr. Earnest: Well, Alexis, I guess 991 00:39:46,517 --> 00:39:52,857 the alternative is should we have not taken the strike 992 00:39:52,857 --> 00:39:54,857 to take out those extremist leaders. 993 00:39:54,859 --> 00:39:56,859 That is certainly not a decision that the 994 00:39:56,861 --> 00:39:58,861 President arrived at, but if there are people 995 00:39:58,863 --> 00:40:00,863 who want to second-guess that strategy, 996 00:40:00,865 --> 00:40:01,865 they're welcome to do so. 997 00:40:01,866 --> 00:40:03,836 But the President certainly believes 998 00:40:03,834 --> 00:40:06,134 that keeping -- applying military 999 00:40:06,137 --> 00:40:08,807 pressure on terrorist leaders and killing 1000 00:40:08,806 --> 00:40:10,876 them when we have the opportunity is a good 1001 00:40:10,875 --> 00:40:12,375 counterterrorism strategy. 1002 00:40:12,376 --> 00:40:13,276 The Press: My other question 1003 00:40:13,277 --> 00:40:14,777 is about tomorrow's meeting with leaders, 1004 00:40:14,779 --> 00:40:16,549 the congressional leaders. 1005 00:40:16,547 --> 00:40:19,847 Is the President's goal to talk to them about the 1006 00:40:19,850 --> 00:40:22,450 areas in which they differ because of the discussion 1007 00:40:22,453 --> 00:40:24,853 in the past few days about the number of veto 1008 00:40:24,855 --> 00:40:27,825 threats, or is his goal to talk to them about 1009 00:40:27,825 --> 00:40:28,795 what they have in common? 1010 00:40:28,793 --> 00:40:30,023 Mr. Earnest: I certainly think 1011 00:40:30,027 --> 00:40:32,997 that there's been adequate attention given 1012 00:40:32,997 --> 00:40:34,397 to those areas where we disagree. 1013 00:40:34,398 --> 00:40:36,398 The President is looking forward to a robust, 1014 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,400 constructive discussion on those areas where 1015 00:40:38,402 --> 00:40:39,402 we do agree. 1016 00:40:39,403 --> 00:40:41,243 They do exist and the President is looking 1017 00:40:41,238 --> 00:40:42,438 forward to talking about them. 1018 00:40:42,439 --> 00:40:46,409 That said, there continues to be some areas where 1019 00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:49,310 we disagree on things that actually are priorities. 1020 00:40:49,313 --> 00:40:53,353 And one of those areas is legislation that would 1021 00:40:53,350 --> 00:40:55,550 ensure that the Department of Homeland Security 1022 00:40:55,553 --> 00:40:57,553 is adequately funded through the end 1023 00:40:57,555 --> 00:40:58,555 of this fiscal year. 1024 00:40:58,556 --> 00:41:00,556 I don't know yet whether or not that would come 1025 00:41:00,558 --> 00:41:02,558 up in the meeting, but we'll try to give you 1026 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,560 a readout of the meeting after it's taken place. 1027 00:41:04,562 --> 00:41:05,392 Major. 1028 00:41:05,396 --> 00:41:07,566 The Press: Josh, AQAP asserted that 1029 00:41:07,565 --> 00:41:09,965 it was behind the original attack in Paris. 1030 00:41:09,967 --> 00:41:11,967 Does the administration, based on what it knows, 1031 00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:13,869 have any reason to doubt that? 1032 00:41:13,871 --> 00:41:15,811 Mr. Earnest: Well, Major, I can 1033 00:41:15,806 --> 00:41:17,806 tell you that there is information about 1034 00:41:17,808 --> 00:41:19,978 this investigation and about these individuals that 1035 00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:22,817 we have shared with French investigators. 1036 00:41:22,813 --> 00:41:24,813 They are, after all, in the lead 1037 00:41:24,815 --> 00:41:25,815 in this investigation. 1038 00:41:25,816 --> 00:41:27,856 This terrible act took place on their soil 1039 00:41:27,852 --> 00:41:30,392 and they should take responsibility for 1040 00:41:30,387 --> 00:41:32,257 investigating and determining who 1041 00:41:32,256 --> 00:41:35,326 was responsible and what kind of support they had. 1042 00:41:35,326 --> 00:41:38,466 So we have shared information with our 1043 00:41:38,462 --> 00:41:40,602 French counterparts on this matter, 1044 00:41:40,598 --> 00:41:42,598 but it's not information that I'm prepared 1045 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,600 to discuss from here. 1046 00:41:43,601 --> 00:41:45,601 The Press: Does the administration 1047 00:41:45,603 --> 00:41:47,403 have any verification of the reports that started 1048 00:41:47,404 --> 00:41:50,804 to come out of Nigeria on Friday about a potential 1049 00:41:50,808 --> 00:41:54,948 massacre of up to 2,000 carried out by Boko Haram? 1050 00:41:54,945 --> 00:41:56,385 Mr. Earnest: Well, we certainly are 1051 00:41:56,380 --> 00:42:00,050 aware of those reports and there are some other, 1052 00:42:00,050 --> 00:42:03,550 frankly, disturbing reports of violence out of Nigeria 1053 00:42:03,554 --> 00:42:05,494 over the weekend as well. 1054 00:42:05,489 --> 00:42:08,459 We do continue to be concerned about that 1055 00:42:08,459 --> 00:42:11,059 situation and we're going to continue to work 1056 00:42:11,061 --> 00:42:14,661 with the Nigerian government on our 1057 00:42:14,665 --> 00:42:16,505 counterterrorism efforts. 1058 00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,500 At the same time, we're also going to continue 1059 00:42:18,502 --> 00:42:20,802 to urge the Nigerian government to live 1060 00:42:20,804 --> 00:42:24,204 up to some basic human rights and some basic principles 1061 00:42:24,208 --> 00:42:30,218 of human rights that sometimes get overlooked 1062 00:42:30,214 --> 00:42:33,714 out of an effort to try to fight this terrible 1063 00:42:33,717 --> 00:42:35,717 terrorist scourge that they're dealing with 1064 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,859 in their country right now. 1065 00:42:36,854 --> 00:42:38,854 But the United States is going to continue 1066 00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:40,996 to monitor these events and continue to work 1067 00:42:40,991 --> 00:42:42,391 with Nigeria on this. 1068 00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:43,523 The Press: Does it believe that 1069 00:42:43,527 --> 00:42:45,397 the numbers could be as high as so far reported, 1070 00:42:45,396 --> 00:42:46,596 and that this could be a massacre 1071 00:42:46,597 --> 00:42:48,037 of significant dimension? 1072 00:42:48,032 --> 00:42:50,532 Mr. Earnest: I don't have any assessment 1073 00:42:50,534 --> 00:42:52,234 on this outside of the public reporting 1074 00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:53,236 on this that I've seen. 1075 00:42:53,237 --> 00:42:55,377 The Press: Is it fair to assume 1076 00:42:55,372 --> 00:42:57,342 that what you're telling us without saying 1077 00:42:57,341 --> 00:42:59,881 it directly, which I'll try to get you to do, 1078 00:42:59,877 --> 00:43:01,717 is that the Attorney General is the one who 1079 00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:03,912 missed the opportunity because he was there 1080 00:43:03,914 --> 00:43:05,654 and could have come to a different conclusion 1081 00:43:05,649 --> 00:43:07,749 about his whereabouts when the march occurred? 1082 00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:09,751 Mr. Earnest: No, I'm not saying that. 1083 00:43:09,753 --> 00:43:11,793 I'm not suggesting that anybody bears 1084 00:43:11,789 --> 00:43:13,789 responsibility of this outside the White House. 1085 00:43:13,791 --> 00:43:15,791 The White House has to make a decision about 1086 00:43:15,793 --> 00:43:17,793 who is going to represent the administration and the 1087 00:43:17,795 --> 00:43:19,795 American people at a march like this, and that's 1088 00:43:19,797 --> 00:43:22,967 where that decision lies and the White House 1089 00:43:22,967 --> 00:43:23,797 should have made a different decision. 1090 00:43:23,801 --> 00:43:25,801 We here at the White House should have made 1091 00:43:25,803 --> 00:43:27,003 a different decision. 1092 00:43:27,004 --> 00:43:28,504 The Press: Did that decision rise 1093 00:43:28,505 --> 00:43:29,205 to the level of the President himself? 1094 00:43:29,206 --> 00:43:30,076 Mr. Earnest: It did not. 1095 00:43:30,074 --> 00:43:31,244 The Press: Whose level did it rise to? 1096 00:43:31,241 --> 00:43:32,411 Mr. Earnest: I'm not going to get into -- 1097 00:43:32,409 --> 00:43:33,449 as I mentioned to Steve -- 1098 00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:34,274 The Press: But the President 1099 00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:35,608 was not presented with this decision? 1100 00:43:35,612 --> 00:43:36,612 Mr. Earnest: This is not a decision 1101 00:43:36,613 --> 00:43:39,853 that was made by the President. 1102 00:43:39,850 --> 00:43:41,720 The Press: Your predecessor from 1103 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,189 this podium in 2012 was asked about one of the cartoons 1104 00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:49,230 published by Charlie Hebdo. 1105 00:43:49,226 --> 00:43:51,366 And he said, representing the President and this 1106 00:43:51,362 --> 00:43:54,962 administration, that the White House questioned 1107 00:43:54,965 --> 00:43:57,535 the judgment of the publication of that 1108 00:43:57,534 --> 00:44:00,204 particular cartoon -- not that it was 1109 00:44:00,204 --> 00:44:03,074 an illegitimate act of satire, but the 1110 00:44:03,073 --> 00:44:05,273 judgment involved behind it. 1111 00:44:05,275 --> 00:44:07,415 Does the White House stand by that questioning 1112 00:44:07,411 --> 00:44:09,281 of the judgment of the publication of that 1113 00:44:09,279 --> 00:44:12,119 cartoon in light of recent events? 1114 00:44:12,116 --> 00:44:12,886 Mr. Earnest: Let me say a couple 1115 00:44:12,883 --> 00:44:13,913 of things about that. 1116 00:44:13,917 --> 00:44:15,087 The first is -- and this 1117 00:44:15,085 --> 00:44:17,825 is something that I don't want to be overlooked -- 1118 00:44:17,821 --> 00:44:20,261 what my predecessor also said in the context 1119 00:44:20,257 --> 00:44:24,357 of those very same comments was that the publication 1120 00:44:24,361 --> 00:44:26,361 of that material did not in any way justify 1121 00:44:26,363 --> 00:44:27,903 an act of violence. 1122 00:44:27,898 --> 00:44:30,798 That was true then, it was true last week, 1123 00:44:30,801 --> 00:44:31,931 and it's true today. 1124 00:44:31,935 --> 00:44:36,445 There is nothing that the individuals at that 1125 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:41,180 satirical magazine did that justified in any way 1126 00:44:41,178 --> 00:44:44,318 the kind of violence that we saw in Paris last week. 1127 00:44:44,314 --> 00:44:46,084 None. 1128 00:44:46,083 --> 00:44:48,923 That is, I think, the most important principle 1129 00:44:48,919 --> 00:44:50,859 that's at stake here. 1130 00:44:50,854 --> 00:44:54,224 At the same time, it would not be the 1131 00:44:54,224 --> 00:44:56,664 first time that there has been a discussion 1132 00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:59,300 in this country about the kinds of responsibilities 1133 00:44:59,296 --> 00:45:01,896 that go along with exercising the right 1134 00:45:01,899 --> 00:45:03,539 to freedom of speech. 1135 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:06,074 And in the scenario -- or in the circumstances 1136 00:45:06,070 --> 00:45:09,170 in which my predecessor was talking about this issue, 1137 00:45:09,173 --> 00:45:11,473 there was a genuine concern that the 1138 00:45:11,475 --> 00:45:15,645 publication of some of those materials could 1139 00:45:15,646 --> 00:45:18,186 put Americans abroad at risk, including 1140 00:45:18,182 --> 00:45:20,352 American soldiers at risk. 1141 00:45:20,350 --> 00:45:22,350 And that is something that the Commander-in-Chief 1142 00:45:22,352 --> 00:45:23,352 takes very seriously. 1143 00:45:23,353 --> 00:45:30,993 And the President and his spokesman was not then 1144 00:45:30,994 --> 00:45:37,864 and will not now be shy about expressing a view 1145 00:45:37,868 --> 00:45:40,968 or taking the steps that are necessary to try 1146 00:45:40,971 --> 00:45:44,611 to advocate for the safety and security of our men 1147 00:45:44,608 --> 00:45:45,608 and women in uniform. 1148 00:45:45,609 --> 00:45:47,679 The Press: But advocating and 1149 00:45:47,678 --> 00:45:50,478 taking steps to protect American service personnel 1150 00:45:50,481 --> 00:45:54,481 is different than criticizing or raising questions 1151 00:45:54,485 --> 00:45:58,925 about the judgment underlying any satirical expression, 1152 00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:02,862 be it to mock Islam or Christianity or Judaism, 1153 00:46:02,860 --> 00:46:03,860 or anything else. 1154 00:46:03,861 --> 00:46:04,861 Where do you draw the line? 1155 00:46:04,862 --> 00:46:06,062 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think it 1156 00:46:06,063 --> 00:46:08,303 depends on the scenario. 1157 00:46:08,298 --> 00:46:09,868 I think -- 1158 00:46:09,867 --> 00:46:11,867 The Press: There is not an absolute 1159 00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:14,769 support of satirical mockery of any institution 1160 00:46:14,771 --> 00:46:15,301 on this planet. 1161 00:46:15,305 --> 00:46:16,275 Mr. Earnest: I think there are 1162 00:46:16,273 --> 00:46:17,273 a couple of absolutes. 1163 00:46:17,274 --> 00:46:19,274 The first is, is that the publication of any kind 1164 00:46:19,276 --> 00:46:22,176 of material in no way justifies any act of violence, 1165 00:46:22,179 --> 00:46:24,179 let alone an act of violence that we saw 1166 00:46:24,181 --> 00:46:25,851 on the scale in Paris. 1167 00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:29,449 And there is -- this President, as the 1168 00:46:29,453 --> 00:46:33,793 Commander-in-Chief, believes strongly in the 1169 00:46:33,790 --> 00:46:36,590 responsibility that he has to advocate for our 1170 00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:38,593 men and women in uniform, particularly if it's 1171 00:46:38,595 --> 00:46:40,095 going to make them safer. 1172 00:46:40,097 --> 00:46:42,097 And the President takes very seriously his 1173 00:46:42,099 --> 00:46:44,099 responsibility as Commander-in-Chief to do that. 1174 00:46:44,101 --> 00:46:46,101 And that's something that we're going 1175 00:46:46,103 --> 00:46:48,103 to continue to do in the future. 1176 00:46:48,105 --> 00:46:50,075 Those are the absolutes -- or at least two of them. 1177 00:46:50,073 --> 00:46:53,843 But when we are confronted with these kinds 1178 00:46:53,844 --> 00:46:57,814 of scenarios where we're balancing basic rights 1179 00:46:57,814 --> 00:47:00,484 alongside very important responsibilities that 1180 00:47:00,484 --> 00:47:02,854 must also be exercised, it's going to always 1181 00:47:02,853 --> 00:47:04,993 depend on the scenario. 1182 00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:07,858 But what won't change is our view that that 1183 00:47:07,858 --> 00:47:10,498 freedom of expression in no way justifies 1184 00:47:10,494 --> 00:47:12,494 an act of violence against the person 1185 00:47:12,496 --> 00:47:14,196 who expressed a view. 1186 00:47:14,198 --> 00:47:16,698 And the President considers the safety 1187 00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:19,640 and security of our men and women in uniform 1188 00:47:19,636 --> 00:47:21,636 to be something worth fighting for. 1189 00:47:21,638 --> 00:47:22,638 The Press: And lastly, do you 1190 00:47:22,639 --> 00:47:26,479 believe the French in any way feel slighted 1191 00:47:26,476 --> 00:47:29,276 or insulted by the lack of a higher-profile 1192 00:47:29,279 --> 00:47:30,849 U.S. presence yesterday? 1193 00:47:30,847 --> 00:47:32,147 Mr. Earnest: I don't. 1194 00:47:32,149 --> 00:47:34,219 And if you believe the public words of the 1195 00:47:34,218 --> 00:47:36,458 French ambassador to the United States who described 1196 00:47:36,453 --> 00:47:38,493 himself and the French people as overwhelmed by 1197 00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:40,488 the expression of solidarity from the 1198 00:47:40,490 --> 00:47:42,490 American people, including the President of the 1199 00:47:42,492 --> 00:47:44,492 United States, the French people certainly 1200 00:47:44,494 --> 00:47:45,264 don't feel that way. 1201 00:47:45,262 --> 00:47:47,502 The Press: So you're apologizing 1202 00:47:47,497 --> 00:47:49,497 because you're being criticized? 1203 00:47:49,499 --> 00:47:51,499 Mr. Earnest: Well, I think what I'm 1204 00:47:51,501 --> 00:47:53,501 acknowledging is that we should have done 1205 00:47:53,503 --> 00:47:55,503 something differently, and this is an opinion 1206 00:47:55,505 --> 00:47:57,505 that's been expressed by a lot of other people, 1207 00:47:57,507 --> 00:47:59,507 and I'm acknowledging that there's a sense here 1208 00:47:59,509 --> 00:48:01,679 that the White House should have sent somebody with 1209 00:48:01,678 --> 00:48:03,278 a higher profile to the march. 1210 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,880 Jim. 1211 00:48:04,881 --> 00:48:06,051 The Press: So what you're saying 1212 00:48:06,049 --> 00:48:07,549 is that the White House made a mistake? 1213 00:48:07,551 --> 00:48:08,681 I just want to make that clear. 1214 00:48:08,685 --> 00:48:09,725 You haven't used that word. 1215 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,360 Mr. Earnest: Well, if we should have -- 1216 00:48:11,355 --> 00:48:12,285 essentially I'm suggesting that we 1217 00:48:12,289 --> 00:48:13,219 should have done something differently, 1218 00:48:13,223 --> 00:48:14,153 so I think it's fair for you to assess that. 1219 00:48:14,157 --> 00:48:15,697 The Press: Does the President 1220 00:48:15,692 --> 00:48:16,732 believe that the White House made a mistake? 1221 00:48:16,727 --> 00:48:18,197 Mr. Earnest: I have not spoken to the 1222 00:48:18,195 --> 00:48:20,435 President about this specific matter. 1223 00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:21,870 The Press: And you said that 1224 00:48:21,865 --> 00:48:23,265 this decision did not reach his level. 1225 00:48:23,267 --> 00:48:25,207 Doesn't the buck stop with the President? 1226 00:48:25,202 --> 00:48:25,902 Mr. Earnest: It always does. 1227 00:48:25,902 --> 00:48:27,002 He'd be the first to tell you that. 1228 00:48:27,004 --> 00:48:27,834 The Press: Yes. 1229 00:48:27,838 --> 00:48:30,408 So why wasn't this decision brought to him? 1230 00:48:30,407 --> 00:48:31,907 Mr. Earnest: Well, Jim, I'm not going 1231 00:48:31,908 --> 00:48:33,978 to sort of unpack the planning and logistics 1232 00:48:33,977 --> 00:48:35,777 that go into these kinds of decisions. 1233 00:48:35,779 --> 00:48:37,249 The Press: Why not? 1234 00:48:37,247 --> 00:48:38,887 Mr. Earnest: Well, just because that 1235 00:48:38,882 --> 00:48:40,682 would be pretty complicated. 1236 00:48:40,684 --> 00:48:42,624 The Press: Is it an interagency failure? 1237 00:48:42,619 --> 00:48:44,719 Perhaps the White House was not talking about this -- 1238 00:48:44,721 --> 00:48:47,061 Mr. Earnest: No, mentioned in response 1239 00:48:47,057 --> 00:48:48,357 to Major's question that the responsibility lays here 1240 00:48:48,358 --> 00:48:49,998 at the White House for finding appropriate 1241 00:48:49,993 --> 00:48:51,933 representation at the march. 1242 00:48:51,928 --> 00:48:53,498 We certainly were pleased that the 1243 00:48:53,497 --> 00:48:55,597 U.S. ambassador to France could participate in that march. 1244 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:57,539 That sends an important signal too. 1245 00:48:57,534 --> 00:48:59,934 The President's travel to the French Embassy 1246 00:48:59,936 --> 00:49:03,436 here in the United States sends a pretty important symbol. 1247 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,340 The President telephoning his French counterpart 1248 00:49:05,342 --> 00:49:07,742 on the day of the attacks and offering 1249 00:49:07,744 --> 00:49:09,944 up his condolences on behalf of the American people 1250 00:49:09,946 --> 00:49:15,256 and pledging his -- any needed assistance in cooperation 1251 00:49:15,252 --> 00:49:17,292 I think makes it pretty clear to everybody who 1252 00:49:17,287 --> 00:49:19,427 is paying attention that the United States and this 1253 00:49:19,423 --> 00:49:22,023 administration stands shoulder to shoulder 1254 00:49:22,025 --> 00:49:24,025 with our allies in France at this time. 1255 00:49:24,027 --> 00:49:26,027 The Press: And the Secretary of State 1256 00:49:26,029 --> 00:49:28,669 earlier today said this was a bit of quibbling. 1257 00:49:28,665 --> 00:49:31,435 So I suppose what you're saying 1258 00:49:31,435 --> 00:49:33,405 is that he's wrong in that assessment. 1259 00:49:33,403 --> 00:49:35,403 Mr. Earnest: It sounds like you're 1260 00:49:35,405 --> 00:49:37,475 getting me to quibble with his remarks. 1261 00:49:37,474 --> 00:49:39,074 The Press: Quibbling with his quibbling. 1262 00:49:39,076 --> 00:49:41,476 Mr. Earnest: I'm not going to do that. 1263 00:49:41,478 --> 00:49:43,478 What I can tell you is that certainly the 1264 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:44,680 Secretary of State is somebody who has 1265 00:49:44,681 --> 00:49:47,221 very important responsibilities himself. 1266 00:49:47,217 --> 00:49:51,387 He was in India this past weekend doing 1267 00:49:51,388 --> 00:49:53,388 some important work representing 1268 00:49:53,390 --> 00:49:54,390 U.S. interests there. 1269 00:49:54,391 --> 00:49:56,491 I'll also note that at the conclusion to his trip 1270 00:49:56,493 --> 00:49:58,493 to India he made an unannounced visit 1271 00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:00,495 to Pakistan, where he is right now. 1272 00:50:00,497 --> 00:50:02,497 And while in Pakistan, he actually visited the 1273 00:50:02,499 --> 00:50:04,599 school in Peshawar that was the site 1274 00:50:04,601 --> 00:50:06,771 of the terrible terrorist attack just 1275 00:50:06,770 --> 00:50:07,770 a couple of weeks ago. 1276 00:50:07,771 --> 00:50:11,941 And I think in the same way that high-profile 1277 00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:13,942 representation at the march and the 1278 00:50:13,944 --> 00:50:15,944 President's decision to go to the 1279 00:50:15,946 --> 00:50:17,946 French Embassy in Washington shows U.S. 1280 00:50:17,948 --> 00:50:19,948 solidarity with the French people as they 1281 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:22,220 confront terrorism, I think the Secretary of State's 1282 00:50:22,219 --> 00:50:25,059 visit to this school demonstrates the American 1283 00:50:25,055 --> 00:50:27,295 people's solidarity with the people of Pakistan 1284 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:29,890 as they face down extremism and violence and terrorism 1285 00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:30,893 in their own country. 1286 00:50:30,894 --> 00:50:31,694 The Press: And not to belabor 1287 00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:34,395 this, because it's been belabored, but the 1288 00:50:34,398 --> 00:50:35,398 Vice President was sitting 1289 00:50:35,399 --> 00:50:37,499 at home all weekend. 1290 00:50:37,501 --> 00:50:38,831 Presumably he could have gone. 1291 00:50:38,835 --> 00:50:41,075 Mr. Earnest: Yes, so was the President. 1292 00:50:41,071 --> 00:50:41,901 The Press: What was pressing in 1293 00:50:41,905 --> 00:50:43,875 Wilmington, Delaware this weekend? 1294 00:50:43,874 --> 00:50:46,514 The Press: And just to follow up 1295 00:50:46,510 --> 00:50:48,610 on Major's question about images 1296 00:50:48,612 --> 00:50:51,712 of Prophet Muhammad, should Americans be fearful 1297 00:50:51,715 --> 00:50:54,315 of how they depict the Prophet Muhammad? 1298 00:50:54,317 --> 00:50:56,487 Mr. Earnest: No, the American people 1299 00:50:56,486 --> 00:50:57,356 should -- 1300 00:50:57,354 --> 00:50:58,484 The Press: Should they be able 1301 00:50:58,488 --> 00:50:59,828 to depict however they see fit? 1302 00:50:59,823 --> 00:51:01,223 Mr. Earnest: No question. 1303 00:51:01,224 --> 00:51:03,794 There is no -- again, there is no expression 1304 00:51:03,794 --> 00:51:07,994 of public opinion or viewpoint or perspective 1305 00:51:07,998 --> 00:51:11,298 that in any way justifies a terrible act 1306 00:51:11,301 --> 00:51:12,541 of violence like this. 1307 00:51:12,536 --> 00:51:13,536 There is none. 1308 00:51:13,537 --> 00:51:15,537 There is no justification for it. 1309 00:51:15,539 --> 00:51:17,539 This is a terrible act of violence. 1310 00:51:17,541 --> 00:51:18,541 It's an act of terrorism. 1311 00:51:18,542 --> 00:51:20,542 And it's an assault on the kinds of values that 1312 00:51:20,544 --> 00:51:22,944 we hold dear in this country and the kinds of values 1313 00:51:22,946 --> 00:51:24,546 that they hold dear in France. 1314 00:51:24,548 --> 00:51:27,718 And I think for some people it serves 1315 00:51:27,717 --> 00:51:32,157 to be a clichĂŠ that when our men and women in uniform are 1316 00:51:32,155 --> 00:51:37,525 fighting alongside our allies in far-flung lands, 1317 00:51:37,527 --> 00:51:39,527 that they're not just fighting for our security, 1318 00:51:39,529 --> 00:51:41,529 they're fighting for our values. 1319 00:51:41,531 --> 00:51:43,531 This is a pretty good illustration of that. 1320 00:51:43,533 --> 00:51:45,533 And that's why we certainly value the kind 1321 00:51:45,535 --> 00:51:47,505 of contribution that the French people have made 1322 00:51:47,504 --> 00:51:49,144 to taking on ISIL. 1323 00:51:49,139 --> 00:51:51,139 We have not had a chance to talk yet about 1324 00:51:51,141 --> 00:51:53,181 the leading role that France has played in taking 1325 00:51:53,176 --> 00:51:59,116 on AQIM in North Africa, that there is French expertise 1326 00:51:59,115 --> 00:52:02,155 and a legacy there where French military forces 1327 00:52:02,152 --> 00:52:05,092 have been very effective in applying pressure 1328 00:52:05,088 --> 00:52:09,158 to terrorist leaders in North Africa that have 1329 00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:11,899 ambition for attacking France and other 1330 00:52:11,895 --> 00:52:13,865 Western interests. 1331 00:52:13,864 --> 00:52:17,764 So, again, we value the kind of strong 1332 00:52:17,767 --> 00:52:19,967 relationship that the United States has with 1333 00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,010 France, and there is no doubt in the mind of this 1334 00:52:22,005 --> 00:52:24,005 President, there certainly is no doubt in the mind 1335 00:52:24,007 --> 00:52:26,477 of 2 the French ambassador to the United States, 1336 00:52:26,476 --> 00:52:28,916 that the American people will continue to be stalwart 1337 00:52:28,912 --> 00:52:31,852 allies with France as we face down those 1338 00:52:31,848 --> 00:52:34,718 terrorists that try to use violence to attack 1339 00:52:34,718 --> 00:52:35,718 our basic values. 1340 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,689 The Press: And in dealing with this 1341 00:52:38,688 --> 00:52:40,688 oversight, does the President have any 1342 00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:44,560 plans to call President Hollande? 1343 00:52:44,561 --> 00:52:46,261 Have any communications been made from the 1344 00:52:46,263 --> 00:52:49,033 White House to the French to say we screwed up on this one? 1345 00:52:49,032 --> 00:52:50,732 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, based 1346 00:52:50,734 --> 00:52:53,804 on the public expression and public comments from 1347 00:52:53,803 --> 00:52:56,303 the French ambassador, I'm not sure that's necessary. 1348 00:52:56,306 --> 00:52:58,546 But if it is, the French ambassador will be sitting 1349 00:52:58,542 --> 00:53:00,942 down with the President's top Homeland Security 1350 00:53:00,944 --> 00:53:02,944 Advisor here at the White House today -- 1351 00:53:02,946 --> 00:53:05,016 it may be taking place right now -- and if that's necessary 1352 00:53:05,015 --> 00:53:06,685 I'm confident that will be conveyed. 1353 00:53:06,683 --> 00:53:08,253 The Press: And maybe can be communicated. 1354 00:53:08,251 --> 00:53:09,081 Okay. 1355 00:53:09,085 --> 00:53:10,985 Mr. Earnest: Julie. 1356 00:53:10,987 --> 00:53:11,987 The Press: Couple things. 1357 00:53:11,988 --> 00:53:13,988 First, just back on Paris for a second. 1358 00:53:13,990 --> 00:53:15,990 I'm told the Secret Service was not asked 1359 00:53:15,992 --> 00:53:17,092 about the potential security concerns around 1360 00:53:17,093 --> 00:53:19,993 a vice presidential or a presidential visit 1361 00:53:19,996 --> 00:53:20,996 to Paris around the march. 1362 00:53:20,997 --> 00:53:21,827 So are you saying that's inaccurate? 1363 00:53:21,831 --> 00:53:23,801 Or what should we conclude from that? 1364 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,000 Was this about security, or was it about something else? 1365 00:53:27,003 --> 00:53:28,703 Mr. Earnest: Well, I appreciate you 1366 00:53:28,705 --> 00:53:31,905 giving me the opportunity to clarify here. 1367 00:53:31,908 --> 00:53:34,478 I'm not going to get into the planning 1368 00:53:34,477 --> 00:53:37,017 or logistics that went into the decision related 1369 00:53:37,013 --> 00:53:38,553 to the march. 1370 00:53:38,548 --> 00:53:41,888 What I have merely reiterated is something 1371 00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:44,525 that we have talked about on many occasions and 1372 00:53:44,521 --> 00:53:47,691 applies to every time the President wants to attend 1373 00:53:47,691 --> 00:53:50,691 an event alongside thousands or hundreds 1374 00:53:50,694 --> 00:53:53,294 of thousands or even millions of other people, 1375 00:53:53,296 --> 00:53:56,796 which is that that requires significant onerous 1376 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,700 security precautions that necessarily have an impact 1377 00:54:00,704 --> 00:54:02,704 on the ability of those who are attending that 1378 00:54:02,706 --> 00:54:05,646 event to fully participate. 1379 00:54:05,642 --> 00:54:08,782 And there is no doubt that had the President attended 1380 00:54:08,778 --> 00:54:11,618 that march on short notice yesterday, it would have 1381 00:54:11,615 --> 00:54:15,085 had -- the security precautions around 1382 00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:17,885 his attendance and participation would 1383 00:54:17,887 --> 00:54:21,857 have had an impact on those who attended the march. 1384 00:54:21,858 --> 00:54:23,858 The Press: You said this was not 1385 00:54:23,860 --> 00:54:25,360 a decision that was made by the President himself, 1386 00:54:25,362 --> 00:54:27,332 but he is the President of the United States. 1387 00:54:27,330 --> 00:54:29,670 If he had decided that this was a priority 1388 00:54:29,666 --> 00:54:32,106 for him to be there in Paris for this march, he could 1389 00:54:32,102 --> 00:54:34,572 have -- ostensibly, he could have 1390 00:54:34,571 --> 00:54:36,041 come forward and said that. 1391 00:54:36,039 --> 00:54:38,139 Does he personally regret not saying, 1392 00:54:38,141 --> 00:54:40,111 you know, I really want to be there for this, 1393 00:54:40,110 --> 00:54:41,710 it's the reason I called the French President 1394 00:54:41,711 --> 00:54:43,881 immediately after these attacks and I should be there? 1395 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,880 Mr. Earnest: Julie, I didn't talk 1396 00:54:45,882 --> 00:54:48,052 to him about his personal regret. 1397 00:54:48,051 --> 00:54:50,051 What I can tell you is that here at the 1398 00:54:50,053 --> 00:54:52,053 White House we do believe that we should have sent 1399 00:54:52,055 --> 00:54:54,055 somebody with a higher profile to the march 1400 00:54:54,057 --> 00:54:56,457 beyond just the U.S. ambassador to France. 1401 00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:57,529 The Press: Just quickly on the 1402 00:54:57,527 --> 00:54:59,097 meeting tomorrow with congressional leaders. 1403 00:54:59,095 --> 00:55:01,095 It's week two of the Congress; you guys have 1404 00:55:01,097 --> 00:55:03,097 already issued I guess it's three veto threats, 1405 00:55:03,099 --> 00:55:05,399 the most recent of which -- just at the top here. 1406 00:55:05,402 --> 00:55:06,772 What is the President's message going 1407 00:55:06,770 --> 00:55:09,270 to be to congressional leaders at this meeting tomorrow, 1408 00:55:09,272 --> 00:55:12,442 who, the Republicans at least, seem to feel like 1409 00:55:12,442 --> 00:55:15,012 he's not starting off on a great foot with them given 1410 00:55:15,011 --> 00:55:16,481 his veto threats? 1411 00:55:16,479 --> 00:55:17,009 And how is he going to explain that in the meeting? 1412 00:55:17,013 --> 00:55:18,053 Mr. Earnest: Well, let me say 1413 00:55:18,048 --> 00:55:20,048 a couple things about that, Julie. 1414 00:55:20,050 --> 00:55:22,050 The first is none of the veto threats that you've 1415 00:55:22,052 --> 00:55:24,052 heard from us in the last week or so has it at all 1416 00:55:24,054 --> 00:55:27,354 been a surprise, particularly because the 1417 00:55:27,357 --> 00:55:29,857 pieces of legislation that we're talking about are 1418 00:55:29,859 --> 00:55:31,859 pieces of legislation in which the administration 1419 00:55:31,861 --> 00:55:32,861 already had well-known views. 1420 00:55:32,862 --> 00:55:35,132 So while it may raise questions in the minds 1421 00:55:35,131 --> 00:55:37,271 of some Republicans about the President's willingness 1422 00:55:37,267 --> 00:55:41,837 to work with Republicans in Congress to advance 1423 00:55:41,838 --> 00:55:45,138 priorities, it might also raise questions in the 1424 00:55:45,141 --> 00:55:48,281 mind of some others that Republicans have chosen, 1425 00:55:48,278 --> 00:55:51,278 as their first few pieces of legislation, bills they 1426 00:55:51,281 --> 00:55:53,121 know the President opposes. 1427 00:55:53,116 --> 00:55:55,116 So that's the first thing. 1428 00:55:55,118 --> 00:55:57,158 The second thing is, despite those 1429 00:55:57,153 --> 00:55:59,923 disagreements there is another important 1430 00:55:59,923 --> 00:56:01,923 principle here, and this is something that the 1431 00:56:01,925 --> 00:56:03,925 President has articulated on several occasions, 1432 00:56:03,927 --> 00:56:06,427 particularly since the midterm elections. 1433 00:56:06,429 --> 00:56:08,429 We can't allow a disagreement over 1434 00:56:08,431 --> 00:56:10,431 a handful of issues to become a deal-breaker 1435 00:56:10,433 --> 00:56:11,433 over all the others. 1436 00:56:11,434 --> 00:56:13,504 There's a lot of important work that needs to get done. 1437 00:56:13,503 --> 00:56:15,503 And whether that's reforming our tax code 1438 00:56:15,505 --> 00:56:17,705 to make it more fair and more simple, or investing 1439 00:56:17,707 --> 00:56:20,147 in the kinds of infrastructure projects 1440 00:56:20,143 --> 00:56:22,143 that we know are going to create jobs over the long 1441 00:56:22,145 --> 00:56:24,245 term and lay the foundation for a modern 1442 00:56:24,247 --> 00:56:26,247 infrastructure that will benefit everybody, 1443 00:56:26,249 --> 00:56:27,489 including our economy. 1444 00:56:27,484 --> 00:56:29,654 It could be working together to open 1445 00:56:29,652 --> 00:56:31,652 up overseas markets for American businesses. 1446 00:56:31,654 --> 00:56:33,654 There are a whole host of things that we could 1447 00:56:33,656 --> 00:56:34,756 do by working with Republicans. 1448 00:56:34,758 --> 00:56:36,758 It doesn't mean we're going to agree 1449 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:37,760 on everything. 1450 00:56:37,761 --> 00:56:38,761 Certainly we're not. 1451 00:56:38,762 --> 00:56:40,762 But the question is, are we going to allow 1452 00:56:40,764 --> 00:56:42,764 a disagreement over a few things to become 1453 00:56:42,766 --> 00:56:44,766 a deal-breaker for all the others. 1454 00:56:44,768 --> 00:56:46,768 The President certainly hopes that it won't. 1455 00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:48,770 And that will be something they'll discuss at the 1456 00:56:48,772 --> 00:56:48,872 meeting quite a bit tomorrow. 1457 00:56:48,872 --> 00:56:50,772 Scott. 1458 00:56:50,774 --> 00:56:51,774 The Press: Back in his 2010 1459 00:56:51,775 --> 00:56:53,745 State of the Union, the President said 1460 00:56:53,743 --> 00:56:55,743 he would have meetings like this on a monthly basis. 1461 00:56:55,745 --> 00:56:57,415 I know you don't read out every time the President 1462 00:56:57,413 --> 00:56:59,053 meets with legislative leaders, but it seems 1463 00:56:59,048 --> 00:57:01,348 like he's fallen short of that total. 1464 00:57:01,351 --> 00:57:02,321 Mr. Earnest: We're in the first month 1465 00:57:02,318 --> 00:57:03,158 of the year and they're going 1466 00:57:03,153 --> 00:57:04,653 to have their first meeting tomorrow. 1467 00:57:04,654 --> 00:57:06,594 So it depends on where you draw the line, right? 1468 00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:10,389 Admittedly, I would say that I don't think 1469 00:57:10,393 --> 00:57:12,163 that the meetings, the formal meetings certainly 1470 00:57:12,162 --> 00:57:14,062 haven't been that frequent. 1471 00:57:14,063 --> 00:57:16,903 I was asked about this last week I think 1472 00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:19,740 in which I declined to suggest that we would set up 1473 00:57:19,736 --> 00:57:22,236 a similar sort of artificial standard. 1474 00:57:22,238 --> 00:57:24,478 But I do think that you can expect the 1475 00:57:24,474 --> 00:57:26,474 President to be in regular touch with leaders 1476 00:57:26,476 --> 00:57:28,476 on Capitol Hill, both Democrats and Republicans, 1477 00:57:28,478 --> 00:57:30,478 in pursuit of the kind of common ground that we believe 1478 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,480 is necessary to move the country forward. 1479 00:57:32,482 --> 00:57:34,482 And, again, it doesn't mean we're going 1480 00:57:34,484 --> 00:57:35,484 to agree over everything. 1481 00:57:35,485 --> 00:57:37,485 I don't want to paper over the differences because 1482 00:57:37,487 --> 00:57:40,157 the differences are significant, but the 1483 00:57:40,156 --> 00:57:42,156 President is determined to try to work with 1484 00:57:42,158 --> 00:57:44,528 Republicans where he can to try to find common ground. 1485 00:57:44,527 --> 00:57:47,897 And where they can't, the President is going 1486 00:57:47,897 --> 00:57:49,897 to be prepared to use all of the elements of his executive 1487 00:57:49,899 --> 00:57:51,899 authority to move us forward on his own. 1488 00:57:51,901 --> 00:57:54,101 And the President made that pretty evident 1489 00:57:54,103 --> 00:57:59,113 in the last few days of -- or last few weeks of 2014, 1490 00:57:59,108 --> 00:58:01,108 and I think even here in the early stages 1491 00:58:01,110 --> 00:58:03,650 of 2015 he's been pretty clear about that too. 1492 00:58:03,646 --> 00:58:04,416 The Press: Is the size of the 1493 00:58:04,414 --> 00:58:07,684 group a little unwieldy? 1494 00:58:07,684 --> 00:58:09,454 Mr. Earnest: Not necessarily. 1495 00:58:09,452 --> 00:58:12,222 I think this can be an appropriate forum 1496 00:58:12,222 --> 00:58:15,362 for discussion where we can have a sizeable number 1497 00:58:15,358 --> 00:58:18,128 of congressional leaders all in one room sitting down, 1498 00:58:18,127 --> 00:58:20,127 putting their heads together to try 1499 00:58:20,129 --> 00:58:22,429 to find and identify some areas of common ground. 1500 00:58:22,432 --> 00:58:23,602 And I think those kinds 1501 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,640 of discussions are constructive. 1502 00:58:26,636 --> 00:58:28,636 I think what you're pointing out is that 1503 00:58:28,638 --> 00:58:30,638 often it's hard to reach a final agreement 1504 00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,640 on something when you have a large number of people 1505 00:58:32,642 --> 00:58:33,642 in the room. 1506 00:58:33,643 --> 00:58:35,643 I wouldn't anticipate that any final agreements 1507 00:58:35,645 --> 00:58:37,615 will be reached on any momentous pieces 1508 00:58:37,614 --> 00:58:39,914 of legislation in this meeting, but after all, 1509 00:58:39,916 --> 00:58:41,916 we're seven days into the new Congress. 1510 00:58:41,918 --> 00:58:44,258 But I do anticipate that there will be a very 1511 00:58:44,254 --> 00:58:46,994 useful discussion, and the President is certainly 1512 00:58:46,990 --> 00:58:49,030 hopeful that Democrats and Republicans from 1513 00:58:49,025 --> 00:58:52,965 Capitol Hill will participate in the same meeting -- 1514 00:58:52,962 --> 00:58:55,532 or participate in the meeting in the same spirit 1515 00:58:55,531 --> 00:58:57,131 that the President will bring to the meeting, 1516 00:58:57,133 --> 00:59:01,603 which is a spirit of cooperation and optimism 1517 00:59:01,604 --> 00:59:04,404 about the country, certainly about the progress that 1518 00:59:04,407 --> 00:59:07,647 we have made on the economy, and optimistic about our 1519 00:59:07,644 --> 00:59:09,644 ability to try to put aside political 1520 00:59:09,646 --> 00:59:13,016 differences and focus on those areas where common 1521 00:59:13,016 --> 00:59:15,116 ground exists and we can make progress 1522 00:59:15,118 --> 00:59:17,958 for everybody here in the country. 1523 00:59:17,954 --> 00:59:18,954 Chris. 1524 00:59:18,955 --> 00:59:23,665 The Press: Obviously if the 1525 00:59:23,660 --> 00:59:25,700 White House had made a different decision -- 1526 00:59:25,695 --> 00:59:27,765 schedules can be changed whether it's Eric Holder 1527 00:59:27,764 --> 00:59:29,764 or John Kerry. 1528 00:59:29,766 --> 00:59:31,736 Did the White House underestimate the symbolic 1529 00:59:31,734 --> 00:59:33,204 importance of this march? 1530 00:59:33,202 --> 00:59:36,302 Mr. Earnest: Well, to the extent 1531 00:59:36,306 --> 00:59:40,276 that anybody had an opportunity to estimate it in 36 hours, 1532 00:59:40,276 --> 00:59:47,956 I think what you can say is that this kind 1533 00:59:47,951 --> 00:59:49,651 of symbolism is important. 1534 00:59:49,652 --> 00:59:51,952 That, after all, is why we sent the 1535 00:59:51,955 --> 00:59:56,455 U.S. ambassador to France and why we believe that 1536 00:59:56,459 --> 00:59:57,629 we should have sent somebody with an even 1537 00:59:57,627 --> 00:59:59,627 higher profile, that those kinds of expressions 1538 00:59:59,629 --> 01:00:03,129 of symbolic solidarity are meaningful in the 1539 01:00:03,132 --> 01:00:05,132 same way that it was meaningful for the President 1540 01:00:05,134 --> 01:00:07,134 to go to the French Embassy here in Washington last 1541 01:00:07,136 --> 01:00:10,376 week and write a thoughtful note in a book 1542 01:00:10,373 --> 01:00:13,943 at the embassy expressing his profound sorrow at those 1543 01:00:13,943 --> 01:00:16,543 who were lost and his resolve to working with the 1544 01:00:16,546 --> 01:00:19,046 people of France to protect our values 1545 01:00:19,048 --> 01:00:20,518 and to protect our livelihood. 1546 01:00:20,516 --> 01:00:24,786 And those expressions of -- those symbolic 1547 01:00:24,787 --> 01:00:26,957 expressions are important, and they certainly were 1548 01:00:26,956 --> 01:00:27,956 important yesterday, too. 1549 01:00:27,957 --> 01:00:28,957 The Press: And is that why 1550 01:00:28,958 --> 01:00:30,958 John Kerry is going on Thursday and Friday? 1551 01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,960 Mr. Earnest: Well, you'd have to 1552 01:00:32,962 --> 01:00:33,962 talk to him about his schedule. 1553 01:00:33,963 --> 01:00:35,963 I think that they had been talking about him 1554 01:00:35,965 --> 01:00:37,935 doing that on the end of his India 1555 01:00:37,934 --> 01:00:38,964 and Pakistan trip anyway. 1556 01:00:38,968 --> 01:00:40,968 But again, you'd have to check with them 1557 01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:42,970 to confirm whether or not that's the case. 1558 01:00:42,972 --> 01:00:43,972 I don't -- I'm not sure. 1559 01:00:43,973 --> 01:00:44,973 The Press: Let me ask about 1560 01:00:44,974 --> 01:00:46,974 the CENTCOM breach just a little bit. 1561 01:00:46,976 --> 01:00:48,516 You mentioned that there is obviously a difference 1562 01:00:48,511 --> 01:00:51,081 between a data breach and hacking Twitter. 1563 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:52,650 But when you talk to intelligence officials, 1564 01:00:52,648 --> 01:00:54,988 one of the things they'll tell you 1565 01:00:54,984 --> 01:00:56,984 is that the power of some of these 1566 01:00:56,986 --> 01:01:00,486 radical groups have been their PR successes. 1567 01:01:00,490 --> 01:01:03,490 And the idea that CENTCOM is being hacked at the 1568 01:01:03,493 --> 01:01:05,633 same time that the President is talking about 1569 01:01:05,628 --> 01:01:08,968 cybersecurity at the FTC, was this 1570 01:01:08,965 --> 01:01:10,405 a PR coup for them? 1571 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,400 Mr. Earnest: No. 1572 01:01:13,403 --> 01:01:14,503 Cheryl. 1573 01:01:14,504 --> 01:01:15,304 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1574 01:01:15,304 --> 01:01:16,204 (laughter) 1575 01:01:16,205 --> 01:01:17,075 The Press: Can I follow up on that? 1576 01:01:17,073 --> 01:01:18,203 Mr. Earnest: Sure. 1577 01:01:18,207 --> 01:01:20,077 Cheryl, if you don't mind. 1578 01:01:20,076 --> 01:01:21,076 The Press: Go ahead. 1579 01:01:21,077 --> 01:01:23,777 The Press: And also in sort of saying 1580 01:01:23,780 --> 01:01:27,120 that this was less significant, there have 1581 01:01:27,116 --> 01:01:29,816 been some reports that there was personal 1582 01:01:29,819 --> 01:01:32,859 information that was divulged -- names, phone numbers, 1583 01:01:32,855 --> 01:01:35,755 those kinds of things, obviously not classified 1584 01:01:35,758 --> 01:01:37,598 information on a Twitter feed. 1585 01:01:37,593 --> 01:01:38,863 But does that make it significant? 1586 01:01:38,861 --> 01:01:39,731 Mr. Earnest: It certainly 1587 01:01:39,729 --> 01:01:41,129 makes it something that we would take seriously. 1588 01:01:41,130 --> 01:01:43,930 But again, the scope of this particular 1589 01:01:43,933 --> 01:01:45,703 incident is something that's still under investigation, 1590 01:01:45,701 --> 01:01:48,101 or at least it was when I walked out here 1591 01:01:48,104 --> 01:01:49,504 an hour or so ago. 1592 01:01:49,505 --> 01:01:51,145 So maybe they've made some more progress to determine 1593 01:01:51,140 --> 01:01:52,840 what exactly has happened. 1594 01:01:52,842 --> 01:01:54,082 But we'll certainly keep you up to date 1595 01:01:54,077 --> 01:01:57,217 on this, and this is something that will attract 1596 01:01:57,213 --> 01:01:58,683 prominent attention in the administration because 1597 01:01:58,681 --> 01:02:01,121 it's something that we take seriously. 1598 01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:01,587 Cheryl, back to you. 1599 01:02:01,584 --> 01:02:02,414 The Press: Thanks. 1600 01:02:02,418 --> 01:02:05,558 On Friday the White House recieved reauthorization 1601 01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:07,895 for the Terrorism Risk Insurance Act. 1602 01:02:07,890 --> 01:02:09,930 Will the President sign that bill? 1603 01:02:09,926 --> 01:02:10,926 Mr. Earnest: The President will 1604 01:02:10,927 --> 01:02:11,927 sign that bill. 1605 01:02:11,928 --> 01:02:14,998 We have made clear our disappointment that 1606 01:02:14,997 --> 01:02:16,997 on this critically important piece of legislation, 1607 01:02:16,999 --> 01:02:18,999 legislation that's good for our economy and good 1608 01:02:19,001 --> 01:02:23,241 for national security, it included a rider that 1609 01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:25,809 would try to water down one element 1610 01:02:25,808 --> 01:02:27,148 of Wall Street reform. 1611 01:02:27,143 --> 01:02:29,143 And that's certainly something that 1612 01:02:29,145 --> 01:02:32,445 we are not happy about. 1613 01:02:32,448 --> 01:02:36,188 But again, in this era of trying to compromise, 1614 01:02:36,185 --> 01:02:38,185 the President on occasion is going to have to sign 1615 01:02:38,187 --> 01:02:40,187 important pieces of legislation that 1616 01:02:40,189 --> 01:02:42,929 aren't 100 percent to his liking. 1617 01:02:42,925 --> 01:02:45,025 And I think the signing of this piece 1618 01:02:45,027 --> 01:02:47,027 of legislation is one example of that. 1619 01:02:47,029 --> 01:02:49,029 We'll let you know when that bill 1620 01:02:49,031 --> 01:02:50,031 has gotten signed. 1621 01:02:50,032 --> 01:02:50,702 Mike. 1622 01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:52,030 The Press: Thanks, Josh. 1623 01:02:52,034 --> 01:02:54,034 Jim had an interesting question, even though 1624 01:02:54,036 --> 01:02:56,036 he left, and I was struck by your exchange. 1625 01:02:56,038 --> 01:02:59,138 He asked you, should American media 1626 01:02:59,142 --> 01:03:02,282 organizations be fearful of reprinting these 1627 01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:05,348 cartoons or depicting Muhammad in some way 1628 01:03:05,348 --> 01:03:08,688 that violent extremists don't like. 1629 01:03:08,684 --> 01:03:10,924 And there has -- and you answered about 1630 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,360 -- the talk about American values. 1631 01:03:13,356 --> 01:03:15,696 There has been some discussion that American 1632 01:03:15,691 --> 01:03:18,731 media organizations haven't reprinted some 1633 01:03:18,728 --> 01:03:21,768 of these things deliberately because they're afraid 1634 01:03:21,764 --> 01:03:24,464 some terrorist could come in and shoot them up. 1635 01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:28,907 Are you saying that based on your knowledge, 1636 01:03:28,905 --> 01:03:31,075 the White House -- you guys know a thing or two about 1637 01:03:31,073 --> 01:03:35,613 security -- that American media organizations 1638 01:03:35,611 --> 01:03:39,051 shouldn't be afraid of writing something 1639 01:03:39,048 --> 01:03:43,318 or showing a cartoon that would offend jihadis 1640 01:03:43,319 --> 01:03:47,489 because, hey, you, as the White House say, America 1641 01:03:47,490 --> 01:03:49,860 is the place where you don't have to be afraid 1642 01:03:49,859 --> 01:03:51,799 of that because we have sufficient security here? 1643 01:03:51,794 --> 01:03:53,794 I just wanted to understand because there's 1644 01:03:53,796 --> 01:03:55,466 been this big debate, and the media sort 1645 01:03:55,464 --> 01:03:56,764 of talks about this. 1646 01:03:56,766 --> 01:03:58,806 And it sounded like you were starting to address, 1647 01:03:58,801 --> 01:04:01,901 hey, your fears may be overblown; we're assuring 1648 01:04:01,904 --> 01:04:03,604 you we have this under control. 1649 01:04:03,606 --> 01:04:05,606 Mr. Earnest: Well, there's a lot there. 1650 01:04:05,608 --> 01:04:10,578 Let me try to go through this carefully. 1651 01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:12,780 The first thing is I think that there are any number 1652 01:04:12,782 --> 01:04:15,182 of reasons that media organizations have made 1653 01:04:15,184 --> 01:04:17,754 a decision not to reprint the cartoons. 1654 01:04:17,753 --> 01:04:20,023 In some cases, maybe they were concerned 1655 01:04:20,022 --> 01:04:21,062 about their physical safety. 1656 01:04:21,057 --> 01:04:24,897 In other cases, they were exercising some judgment 1657 01:04:24,894 --> 01:04:27,734 in a different way. 1658 01:04:27,730 --> 01:04:30,170 So we certainly would leave it to media 1659 01:04:30,166 --> 01:04:33,206 organizations to make a decision like this. 1660 01:04:33,202 --> 01:04:35,202 I think this goes to something I was saying 1661 01:04:35,204 --> 01:04:37,204 earlier that there is a responsibility associated 1662 01:04:37,206 --> 01:04:39,176 with the exercise of some of these 1663 01:04:39,175 --> 01:04:42,045 First Amendment rights. 1664 01:04:42,044 --> 01:04:44,584 But that is a decision that should be made 1665 01:04:44,580 --> 01:04:47,320 by those news organizations. 1666 01:04:47,316 --> 01:04:48,186 The Press: But it's a separate 1667 01:04:48,184 --> 01:04:49,624 decision from being fearful. 1668 01:04:49,619 --> 01:04:51,919 That's a taste, judgment -- 1669 01:04:51,921 --> 01:04:53,821 Mr. Earnest: Well, again, I think 1670 01:04:53,823 --> 01:04:56,093 that's probably in their minds -- and I hesitate 1671 01:04:56,092 --> 01:04:58,092 to speak for them, but since we're going down 1672 01:04:58,094 --> 01:05:00,164 this road, I'll try to entertain this dialogue 1673 01:05:00,162 --> 01:05:03,462 here -- they're trying to assess some risk, right? 1674 01:05:03,466 --> 01:05:05,466 They're trying to understand at what risk 1675 01:05:05,468 --> 01:05:08,768 is it going to put this organization or our 1676 01:05:08,771 --> 01:05:12,041 employees by publishing this cartoon. 1677 01:05:12,041 --> 01:05:14,041 Now, I'm confident in saying that for the vast 1678 01:05:14,043 --> 01:05:16,043 majority of media organizations, that's 1679 01:05:16,045 --> 01:05:17,145 not the only factor. 1680 01:05:17,146 --> 01:05:19,516 But I would readily concede that it is one 1681 01:05:19,515 --> 01:05:22,385 in the minds of many of those news executives. 1682 01:05:22,385 --> 01:05:24,355 But again, that is a decision for all 1683 01:05:24,353 --> 01:05:25,423 of them to make. 1684 01:05:25,421 --> 01:05:27,921 The responsibility that this President feels 1685 01:05:27,923 --> 01:05:30,323 is on a couple of fronts. 1686 01:05:30,326 --> 01:05:33,166 The first is to reiterate, as I have here a few times 1687 01:05:33,162 --> 01:05:35,162 but I'm going to do it again because 1688 01:05:35,164 --> 01:05:37,164 it's important, a basic principle here, 1689 01:05:37,166 --> 01:05:41,536 which is that no public expression or exercise 1690 01:05:41,537 --> 01:05:46,577 of free speech justifies violence -- certainly not 1691 01:05:46,575 --> 01:05:49,745 the violence on the scale that we saw in Paris last week. 1692 01:05:49,745 --> 01:05:55,515 And that is a principle that the President 1693 01:05:55,518 --> 01:05:57,658 believes is really important and one 1694 01:05:57,653 --> 01:05:59,423 worth fighting for. 1695 01:05:59,422 --> 01:06:01,422 And I think you could make the case, as I mentioned 1696 01:06:01,424 --> 01:06:03,594 earlier, that a lot of men and women in uniform -- 1697 01:06:03,592 --> 01:06:06,632 not just from American soldiers, but French 1698 01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:08,629 soldiers and British soldiers and others 1699 01:06:08,631 --> 01:06:09,831 are fighting for that principle 1700 01:06:09,832 --> 01:06:11,272 in a very real way. 1701 01:06:11,267 --> 01:06:15,707 And that is a testament to the close alliance that 1702 01:06:15,705 --> 01:06:17,705 we have with the French and with others. 1703 01:06:17,707 --> 01:06:19,707 The Press: Josh, but when you said 1704 01:06:19,709 --> 01:06:21,709 no to Jim, you weren't making a risk assessment 1705 01:06:21,711 --> 01:06:26,311 that there shouldn't be fear, that if The New York Times 1706 01:06:26,315 --> 01:06:28,785 or Bloomberg printed this cartoon that 1707 01:06:28,784 --> 01:06:30,524 we would all be killed. 1708 01:06:30,519 --> 01:06:33,789 You're not making a risk assessment when you're 1709 01:06:33,789 --> 01:06:35,059 saying you shouldn't fear that? 1710 01:06:35,057 --> 01:06:36,057 Mr. Earnest: What I'm saying is that 1711 01:06:36,058 --> 01:06:38,058 individual news organizations have to assess 1712 01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:40,230 that risk for themselves. 1713 01:06:40,229 --> 01:06:42,229 I mean, look, I might add that there are 1714 01:06:42,231 --> 01:06:46,131 also journalists who assume great personal 1715 01:06:46,135 --> 01:06:47,875 risk to tell these stories. 1716 01:06:47,870 --> 01:06:50,710 And we've seen that some of these journalists 1717 01:06:50,706 --> 01:06:53,906 have been captured by violent extremists who 1718 01:06:53,909 --> 01:06:57,049 have carried out terrible acts of violence against them. 1719 01:06:57,046 --> 01:07:02,356 So there is a risk assessment made in lots 1720 01:07:02,351 --> 01:07:04,351 of decisions that journalists make. 1721 01:07:04,353 --> 01:07:06,353 And, again, I think the point in the mind 1722 01:07:06,355 --> 01:07:08,325 of the President and certainly everybody here 1723 01:07:08,324 --> 01:07:10,794 at the White House is that that is a question 1724 01:07:10,793 --> 01:07:12,793 that should be answered by journalists. 1725 01:07:12,795 --> 01:07:14,795 They should use their independent professional 1726 01:07:14,797 --> 01:07:16,797 judgment to make those kinds of decisions. 1727 01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:18,799 And, again, those decisions aren't just 1728 01:07:18,801 --> 01:07:22,971 driven by safety; they're also driven by certain 1729 01:07:22,972 --> 01:07:26,972 ethics and journalistic standards. 1730 01:07:26,976 --> 01:07:29,846 And these are complicated issues but ultimately 1731 01:07:29,845 --> 01:07:33,615 ones that journalists should make. 1732 01:07:33,616 --> 01:07:36,486 I will say that there have been occasions -- 1733 01:07:36,485 --> 01:07:38,485 and somebody mentioned it earlier, 1734 01:07:38,487 --> 01:07:42,997 I guess it was Major -- where the administration 1735 01:07:42,992 --> 01:07:45,662 will make clear our point of view on some of those 1736 01:07:45,661 --> 01:07:47,661 assessments based on the need to protect the American 1737 01:07:47,663 --> 01:07:49,663 people and to protect our men and women in uniform. 1738 01:07:49,665 --> 01:07:53,635 And so I wouldn't rule out making those kinds 1739 01:07:53,636 --> 01:07:57,006 of expressions again. 1740 01:07:57,006 --> 01:08:00,946 But, again, these are the kinds of difficult 1741 01:08:00,943 --> 01:08:03,843 questions that journalists have to wrestle with. 1742 01:08:03,846 --> 01:08:05,746 There may be an occasion where 1743 01:08:05,748 --> 01:08:07,748 U.S. government officials can be helpful 1744 01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:09,750 in providing them advice or information that can help 1745 01:08:09,752 --> 01:08:11,752 them make that decision, but ultimately 1746 01:08:11,754 --> 01:08:12,754 the decision rests with them. 1747 01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:15,095 And regardless of what decision is made, it does 1748 01:08:15,090 --> 01:08:17,360 not in any way justify an act of violence. 1749 01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:19,499 Jared, I'm going to give you the last one. 1750 01:08:19,495 --> 01:08:20,495 The Press: Then a fun one then, 1751 01:08:20,496 --> 01:08:21,496 Josh, for you. 1752 01:08:21,497 --> 01:08:22,497 Mr. Earnest: Okay. 1753 01:08:22,498 --> 01:08:23,498 That would be the first one. 1754 01:08:23,499 --> 01:08:24,499 (laughter) 1755 01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:25,970 The Press: I'm sorry to hear that. 1756 01:08:25,968 --> 01:08:27,038 Mr. Earnest: That's okay. 1757 01:08:27,036 --> 01:08:28,976 The Press: After the 2012 reelection, 1758 01:08:28,971 --> 01:08:31,971 the President said he'd reach out to Governor Romney. 1759 01:08:31,974 --> 01:08:34,714 The Wall Street Journal reporting that 1760 01:08:34,710 --> 01:08:38,010 Governor Romney is putting out some 2016 trial balloon. 1761 01:08:38,013 --> 01:08:40,953 Has the President in any conversation or meeting 1762 01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:42,950 had any interaction with the Governor since 1763 01:08:42,952 --> 01:08:44,822 their lunch in November 2012? 1764 01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:45,650 Mr. Earnest: That's a good question. 1765 01:08:45,654 --> 01:08:47,454 I don't -- off the top of my head, I don't recall 1766 01:08:47,456 --> 01:08:50,026 any conversation that they've had since that lunch. 1767 01:08:50,025 --> 01:08:51,925 Thanks, everybody. 1768 01:08:51,927 --> 01:08:52,827 We'll see you tomorrow.