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Mr. Gibbs:
One quick announcement before we get going.

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Tomorrow the President and the First Lady
will travel to Wilmington, Delaware, to attend

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the funeral of Jean Biden. We'll have details
on press access for tomorrow's travel a little

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bit later in the day, but I just wanted to
mention that. Mr. Feller.

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The Press:
Thanks, Robert. On health care, would the

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President sign a bill that did not include
the tax on the so-called Cadillac health care

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plans, or is that a mandatory revenue-producing
for him at this point?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, Ben, the President will meet with some

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of the organized labor community this afternoon
to discuss health care and presumably to get

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into that topic, and we'll have more of a
readout when we get done with that.

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The Press:
Well, how would you say -- how would you characterize

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his stance at this point?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, he supported the Senate bill and that

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provision was in that bill for what it does
in terms of changing the direction of health

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care costs.

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The Press:
So what's his message to a constituency represented

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by the labor leaders today that clearly are
opposed to this?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, that will be happening in the meeting

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and when that meeting is over we'll have a
chance to talk about it.

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The Press:
Is he confident about winning them over?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We'll tell you that after the meeting as well.

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The Press:
Robert, there were a lot of reports out this

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morning that the administration is considering
a fee on banks, and I was wondering if you

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can talk about that -- what you're thinking
of in that regard?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't have specifics to talk about what

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will be in the budget. We'll do that certainly
later in the month as we get closer to the

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budget. I would simply say, Caren, that the
President has talked on a number of occasions

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about ensuring that the money that taxpayers
put up to rescue our financial system is paid

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back in full. That's been the President's
position. I think that's the least that taxpayers

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are owed. And we'll have more details on budgetary
stuff as we get closer to the budget being released.

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The Press:
Will we see something specific in the budget

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that ensures that taxpayers are paid back
in full?

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's the President's goal, yes.

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The Press:
Okay. And just to follow up on that, you got

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a lot of questions last week about Secretary
Geithner. And one of the main criticisms there

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is that he's too close to Wall Street and
the administration is too close to Wall Street,

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and I just was wondering what your response
to that is.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, the President made a series of decisions

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with his economic team on what had to be done
to stabilize our economic situation upon taking

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office -- an economic situation that veered
quite honestly -- not simply the worst recession

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since the Great Depression, but an economy
that quite frankly teetered on the edge of

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larger collapse. The President has made a
series of decisions to take steps to get our

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economy jumpstarted on a path toward recovery.
I think if you look at what people on Wall

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Street say about some of our -- either our
economic decisions or our economic rhetoric,

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I think that alone disproves that this is
all about Wall Street. Jake.

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The Press:
In the middle of December, OMB put out a memo

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to all federal agencies about how to calculate
the stimulus, how to calculate jobs created

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and saved, saying that, among other things,
that there would be quarterly instead of

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-- updated more frequently than that, and
that also that if somebody were paid even

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-- two employees of a library who were already
working there are paid with stimulus dollars,

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those two individuals should -- that should
count as jobs created by or saved by the stimulus,

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even if those jobs existed already. Do you
have any further explanation about why --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Jake, I haven't seen the memo but I'm happy

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to talk to them and put you in touch with
them. I haven't seen the memo and don't know

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what the details are.

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The Press:
Okay. To follow up on a question I asked last

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week about the freeing of Qais Khazaali, do
you have any more on that?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I don't.

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The Press:
Okay. And then -- all
right, that's it, I'm done.

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(laughter)

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Get back to me when you can.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
On Harry Reid, the President put out the statement

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over the weekend accepting his apology, and
I'm wondering why the President didn't talk

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in that apology, or in that conversation I
guess that he had with him about unfortunate

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language that was used --
no mention of that at all.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm sorry?

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The Press:
When the President put out the statement or

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you put out the statement on behalf the President,
this conversation that he had with Senator

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Reid, there was no mention at all about the
unfortunate language that was used. It was more --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I think that phrase was in the statement

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about the fact that -- the unfortunate choice
of words by Senator Reid.

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The Press:
Well, it didn't seem like he went into sort

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of anything more than just, I accept his apology
and we move on from here. Is there anything

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more that the President --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, no -- I mean, I don't have the statement

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in front of me, but I think the President's
statement said that Senator Reid had called

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him about these comments that the President
called unfortunate; that he's worked with

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Senator Reid, he knows Senator Reid, the type
of values that he has, the agenda that he's

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pushed in the U.S. Senate; and
didn't take offense at them.

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The Press:
Has the President said anything more about

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that in light of just that what we've been
hearing, it's been dominating the various

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shows over the weekend and even this morning?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, it wasn't something I've heard the President

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talk more about today.

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The Press:
And on the -- in light of what has happened

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with terrorism, the terrorism threat, is there
anything at all that the administration had

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planned to do, maybe a second-tier priority,
that has been put on the backburner now because

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there's been sort of the ramped-up efforts
with terrorism, the attention, and so much

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of the air sucked out with terrorism
at the end of the year?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No. You mean an agenda item that the President

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would be focused on -- focusing on that he's
not because of the --

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The Press:
Is there anything -- right, exactly. Is there

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anything else that the President was planning --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Dan, this question has sort of come in different

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forms throughout different times.

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The Press:
It's not the juggling or the are you handling

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too much question. But it's just that is there
anything that you said, listen, we weren't

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planning on spending so much time focused
on terrorism at the beginning of the year.

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Now we have to; there are some other things,
some other priorities that have to be put

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on the backburner.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't understand. That's
not the juggling question?

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The Press:
I'm not saying are you -- I'm not --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'm just trying

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to get -- I'm lost with the
premise of the question.

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The Press:
I'm not saying, are you juggling too much

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-- is it just realize, hey, you know, we
have to focus so much on terrorism; let's

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put something else back a bit, let's move
something off the front burner.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think that is the juggling question, but --

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The Press:
It's a balancing question.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Ahh, thanks for the crystal
clear clarity of that.

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The Press:
It's not the typical question that says, are

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you guys --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know how I didn't get that.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
I'm not saying are you guys juggling too much?

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That's not the question. The question is just
have you decided to --

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Mr. Gibbs:
You're saying are we not doing something because

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we're doing something in lieu of that?

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The Press:
But my question wasn't, are you juggling too

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much. I'm just asking you, is there anything
you've decided to put off for now because

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there are these other issues you weren't planning
on spending so much time on?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Maybe I should have just said no and gotten

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out. The answer is no.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Why didn't you say that in the first place?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I did, and then I sought to understand

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the premise of the -- never mind. I would
say this, Dan, that the notion that -- well,

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let me say this, I think inherent in your
question is somehow now the President is having

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to spend so much more time on something like
terrorism that he wasn't -- that there wasn't

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spending time on that prior to --

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The Press:
No, you -- I understand you --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Right, right. And I would just say that, you

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know, again, the President's PDB goes over
the security situation and threats. The President

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has spent quite a great deal of time dealing
with this. So there's no issue that has not

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been discussed or worked on because of that.

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The Press:
Anything going on behind the scenes on immigration

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reform at all?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can't remember if the President has had

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any meetings on this recently, but I can certainly
go back and look through the schedule. Yes, ma'am.

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The Press:
When is the President going to hold a news

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conference? Not that you're inadequate.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I appreciate that.

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(laughter)

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Chip asked this question on Friday --

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The Press:
Yes, but she'll get an answer.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, she is nicer than you, Chip.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
I mean, he's gone an obscenely long time,

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not holding one.

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Mr. Gibbs:
But again, not the word "adequate."

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(laughter)

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I don't see one on the schedule at least in
the short term, which is precisely what I

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said --

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The Press:
Is he avoiding us?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No. Again, the last time we had this conversation

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here about the President's media strategy
I was informed by many of you that the President

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was overexposed.

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The Press:
But you don't have a good
reason for not holding one.

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The Press:
Who in this room said that the President was

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overexposed? One person in this room that
said he was overexposed.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, we had a whole round of questioning on

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that.

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The Press:
Let's take a vote.

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The Press:
Seriously.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Okay. Who at some point --

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The Press:
Raise your hand if you do not believe he's

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overexposed.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Okay, so that's one.

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The Press:
That was very confusingly phrased.

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, that was actually quite well-phrased and

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one person --

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The Press:
And that is not the answer. The answer is

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accountability.

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The Press:
Who wants a news conference?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Right, who wants to win the lottery?

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The Press:
Are you saying our chances are just the same?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Scratch and win, Major. Scratch and win.

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The Press:
Seriously, one person in this room that said

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he was overexposed, just one.

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's not true.

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The Press:
Just name one person who said he was overexposed.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I will go back and look at the transcript

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and we can --

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The Press:
Well, we have questions about pundits. But

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we're not pundits; we're reporters. There
are pundits out there who were saying --

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(laughter) --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Do you have a question or an opinion, Mr. Pundit?

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The Press:
I actually do. Going back to Wall Street firms,

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three firms: Goldman, Morgan and Chase have
set aside $47 billion, I believe the number

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is, on bonuses. Does the President think that's
appropriate and is there anything he has talked

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about or hopes to do, to do something about
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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, Chip, I think you heard Dr. Romer

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this weekend and I think you've heard the
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the continued divergence from, in all ways,
reality of what's going on, on Main Street

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and what's going on in some of these firms
on Wall Street. There are folks that just

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continue not to get it.

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The Press:
Is he doing anything about it?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, the President has discussed ways of

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-- well, we can -- we have done stuff relating
to banks that have received extraordinary

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assistance from the federal government. There
is a lot less, as you know, that we can do

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with somebody that's not tied in terms of
a direct correlation between money that's

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given through TARP. The President has repeatedly
pushed, and the House passed as part of their

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financial reform, a say on pay. We have greatly
encouraged anybody that's giving out bonuses

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and executive compensation to tie it not to
short-term risk-taking but to the long-term

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health of the company, as most stockholders
and taxpayers would prefer; and that is, give

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that compensation in stock, have it vest over
a series of years so that the health of the

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firm is first and foremost, not short-term
risks that might have people making different

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The Press:
But despite everything the President said

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and everything that he's proposed and everything
that's been done, this may be the biggest

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year yet for money falling from the sky for
these guys.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Chip, there's just -- like I said, there's

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a limit to what the President can do for firms
that don't receive assistance from the American

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government.

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Use the bully pulpit more effectively, just

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get out there? I mean, he could pick up the
phone and call these guys.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I can assure you the meeting that we

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had not recently -- not too recently with
the bankers in the Roosevelt Room included

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a discussion about executive compensation.
I think they know where we are on this issue.

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Is it fair to say they're just not listening

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to him?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think they're not listening to the American

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people, Chip. I think -- like I said, I think
there's a divergence in reality as to what's

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going on in this economy if you talk to somebody
that is in line for a huge cash bonus at a

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Wall Street firm and a small business on Main
Street that's trying to get a loan, that's

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trying to get some help, and trying to get
their business and this economy back on track,

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absolutely.

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The Press:
When the President talks about this, does

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he still get visibly angry about it?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Absolutely. I mean, I don't -- the truth is

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-- I think the story that you were referring
to was the one in Sunday's paper. I don't

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know anybody, save for a few that work for
those banks, that don't get visibly angry

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and in reading those stories, absolutely.

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The Press:
Do you think these banks have been forthcoming

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in their assets? Why did they need these big
bailouts, and they paid them back almost immediately?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I don't have any reason to question

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the financial straits that they were in at
the time in which they received TARP recovery

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money. I will say this, Helen, and the President
strongly believes this -- is that was in many

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ways of their own doing, which I think is
what gets people that much more exercised

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about this. And I think what the President
has discussed and the reason why the President

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has pushed financial reform is to ensure that
we have rules of the road that doesn't let

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the type of activity that caused this to happen
to ever happen again, forcing the American

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taxpayers to have to make decisions about
the financial system collapsing or providing

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TARP money for these guys.

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The Press:
But on the $47 billion, is he basically throwing

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in the towel and saying there's nothing I
can do?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, no, no. I mean, again, there's little

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we can do legislatively. I think you'll --
the President will continue to talk about

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this both in public and in private with these
bankers. Yes, ma'am.

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The Press:
Real quick on Mrs. Biden's funeral. Will the

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President speak at that funeral?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't believe that's the case, but I think

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he and the First Lady are just going, but
I think they're working on logistics.

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The Press:
Okay. On the meeting of Labor leaders today,

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is the President's message to them essentially,
tough luck, we're going to tax the Cadillac

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plans? Or can he be persuaded?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I mean, I think the point of the meeting is

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to have this discussion. We'll have more to
say about that discussion at the conclusion

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of the meeting.

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The Press:
So his position could move.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think the President -- obviously the

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President has a position, and I think we'll
talk to them about why he sees this as something

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that's important in the bill.

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The Press:
Okay. I think last week some senior aide said

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we should expect more of a focus on the economy
this week, and I wondered how we might expect

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that to manifest itself.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think on Wednesday we'll have an event

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in the local area to talk about some jobs
ideas and some economic numbers. I don't have

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the rest of the week's schedule in front of
me, but I think over the course of the next

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several weeks you'll see a number of economic
events on our plate.

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The Press:
How involved are you guys, then, in shaping

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the jobs bill that's happening in the Senate?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think the -- we've certainly been

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in communications with the House and the Senate
about different jobs packages as the President

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outlined in December here in Washington.

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The Press:
Robert, just to follow on the bank fee issue,

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isn't the bank fee being considered as part
of the budget? Isn't this something -- a way

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to sort of address this question of bonuses?
And I had a question on calibration, given

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that there are 8,500 banks in the country
and a large majority of them would come in

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for a fee that would be levied on banks. How
would you square this --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not going to get into details and specifics

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on a budget that will be released at a later
day.

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The Press:
It's at the printers?

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Mr. Gibbs:
And when it comes back from Kinko's, we'll

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be able to talk about it. It's not really
at Kinko's, though, I was just -- go ahead.

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The Press:
What is your assessment of the situation in

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Yemen now as a terror hotbed, if you will,
a source of the kind of plots that we saw

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on Christmas, especially considering the comments
that have come out of there in the past couple

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of days from the President of Yemen and from
a leading cleric there talking about foreign

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intervention and what it would be bring?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, as you well know, this has been

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on the President and the national security
team's radar for quite some time. The security

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situation there obviously remains quite perilous.
There are vast areas of largely ungoverned

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space that have attracted al Qaeda in the
Arabian Peninsula and other extremist allies

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in Yemen and throughout the region. I think
the President and his team have been and still

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are acutely aware of the threats that could
be emanating and are emanating from that region.

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The Press:
Do you think this is for domestic consumption,

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these comments about -- whipping up comments
about foreign intervention, and why did the

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President find it necessary to say what he
did in the magazine interview about the prospects

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for U.S. --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think that, you know, whether it was

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General Petraeus or President Obama, I think
discussing whether or not boots, American

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boots on the ground was something that was
-- something the administration was planning

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I think is something the President simply
put to rest is not happening.

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The Press:
Can I follow up on this one, on Yemen, please?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

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The Press:
The President also said that he's willing

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to talk to al Qaeda member, if they repent
-- the President of Yemen. And his national

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security advisor said that Yemen is not a
haven for extremists. Does this undermine

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the administration and the President's effort
to combat terrorism, especially in Yemen?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No. I mean, our position on disrupting, dismantling,

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and defeating al Qaeda is not any different
today than it was several days ago. We have

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worked closely with the Yemeni government
to address threats that have come out of Yemen,

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the security situation there, and we'll continue
to do so.

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The Press:
But he wants to talk to them.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, our posture as it relates to al Qaeda

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has not changed.

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The Press:
Let me make another pass at the banking one,

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but in the context of the deficit we've heard
a lot from the President on the course of

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reducing the deficit. Are you guys ruling
out any sort of transaction, tax, or bank

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fee as a way to lower the deficit?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not going to add more in specificity to

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what I have yet to add to the previous four
people that have asked.

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The Press:
Two people.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Two.

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The Press:
So you're not ruling it out?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm not ruling it in or ruling it out, how

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about that?

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The Press:
This is like a new jobs bill.

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(laughter)

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On START, where are you guys on that? Are
you guys getting closer? I mean, are we --

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Mr. Gibbs:
We continue to work with our Russian counterparts

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on trying to find an agreement that, quite
frankly, that works for both sides. I need

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to go back and look at some notes about whether
it was this Friday or the previous Friday

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that we had a negotiating team that headed
to -- headed over to make some headway on

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that. But nothing as of yet to report. Major.

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The Press:
You said in answer to Ben's question about

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the Cadillac plans that the President supports
the Senate bill. Well, the President also

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supported the House bill. He put out statements
on both, and they have divergent points of

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view on this question. Is the White House
open to in any way reshaping the level at

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which the surtax in the Senate bill would
apply to the Cadillac so-called health benefits?

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I mean, is that something
that is negotiable --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think --

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The Press:
-- within the contexts
of these conversations --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I think the President looks forward

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to speaking with leaders today about their
ideas and about their concerns, and I certainly

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think the level is one of the topics that
will come up. We'll have more to say about

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the meeting after the meeting.

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The Press:
I know that the level would come up. I'm just

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trying to find out if the White House is open
to having that level adjusted.

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Mr. Gibbs:
We're certainly open to having that discussion,

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which will happen today.

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The Press:
But not adjusting it, necessarily?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I don't think we'd be having the discussion

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if we weren't interested in hearing their
viewpoint.

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The Press:
Very good. On Senator Reid's comments, the

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President and other advisors have said it
was a poor choice of words. I'm just wondering,

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if you could tell us, what would have been
a better way to express what Harry Reid was

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actually saying?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
I appreciate the opportunity to not just speak

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for an elected official but speak as the Senator
from Nevada. I just think that would be a

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weird place for me to go given -- I'd be up
here doing impersonations all day, Major.

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The Press:
Well, I guess what I'm getting at is, there

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was nothing that the President found objectionable
or untoward about what he was saying, just

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the way he said it?

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Mr. Gibbs:
The President didn't take offense personally,

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but believes that, as the statement said,
this was an unfortunate choice of words. I

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think that's what the statement said. He knows
--

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The Press:
Not an unfortunate observation about his particular

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political strengths going into the campaign
-- that's what Harry Reid was talking about.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, I think Senator Reid -- I have not

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read the book -- later in the book makes the
point that -- not only does he not think race

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is going to detract from, but that it will
be a positive for the campaign. So obviously

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it's a very poor choice, a very unfortunate
choice of words. The President got that apology

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from Senator Reid, didn't take offense to
it, and has moved on.

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The Press:
Did you want to react to any Republicans calls

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for him to step down or asserting that there's
a double-standard here vis-Ă -vis the Trent Lott
situation?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I mean, I think you need to go back

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and -- I think it's helpful to go back and
see what was said in the previous instance.

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I don't -- I appreciate that some are drawing
a direct analogy. I don't understand exactly

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how one draws the analogy to a former Majority
Leader expressing his support for the defeat

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of Harry Truman in 1948 so that Strom Thurmond
would be President running on a state's rights

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ticket. I don't see how that's analogous to
what Senator Reid was saying. I don't --

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I mean, I understand what people have to say
on TV or to get themselves on TV. I would

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suggest they spend about 20 seconds reading
a little history and figuring out that to

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draw that analogy strains any intellectual
enterprise or any real reality, in all sense

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of the word.

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The Press:
On politics, there are indications the Massachusetts

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Senate race is tightening up. The DNC sent
-- top staff were there today. Does the President

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have any intention of going up to Massachusetts
to campaign on behalf of Martha Coakley?

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Mr. Gibbs:
The President doesn't have any travel plans

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to campaign in Massachusetts.

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The Press:
Thanks.

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The Press:
Robert, given the meeting with the Labor leaders

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later today, do you think the President has
done right by a movement that was so much

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a part of his victory in November, the Labor
movement? Is he -- has he done right by them?

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Has he advanced their agenda in the way that
he should?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think the President has represented working

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men and women in this country in everything
that he's worked on, whether it was making

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a decision to save two companies from going
bankrupt, whether it was pushing a Recovery

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plan, I think a whole host obviously of legislative
initiatives that have benefited working men

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and women in this country, absolutely.

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The Press:
Robert, just one quick question on a timetable

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on Iran sanctions. You said last year that
we're looking, once the end of the year came,

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we'd be looking at a decision. Do you have
-- when do you hope to have a coalition together

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to move forward on Security Council --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, we continue to work with our partners

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in the P5-plus-1, as you heard the President
say last year, in putting together the next

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steps moving forward. I don't think there's
some magic day in which that all happens at

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the U.N. -- at least I don't have that day.
But we continue to -- we will continue to

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hold Iran responsible for living up to its
international obligations.

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The Press:
So you don't have a deadline in mind? The

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administration isn't --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, the administration is working both internally

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on ideas that it could do, as well as working
with the P5-plus-1 in a broader series that

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would have the support of the international
community.

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The Press:
A couple of quick bookkeeping -- or scheduling

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issues. Is the President going to be going
to the Democratic issues retreat this week?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I got that last week here; I will look at

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-- that's Thursday and Friday or so? Let
me find that out, scheduling-wise.

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The Press:
And any closer to a State of the Union date?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of, no.

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The Press:
And one of substance, if I may -- North Korea,

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they're suggesting -- (laughter) -- well,
process and substance -- North Korea's assertion

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today that the United States and it should
settle on a treaty by the end of this year

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to finally -- the peace treaty that would
finally end the Korean conflict, and how that

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is important in terms of settling the nuclear
issue, as well.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, the North Koreans are well aware of

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what they need to do to come back to talks
with -- to six-party talks in dealing with

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this issue, and that is give up the idea of
a nuclear state on the peninsula, just as

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it agreed to do several years ago. If they're
willing to live up to those obligations, then

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we will make progress in those talks. But
this is -- this isn't a step for us to take,

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this is a step for the North Koreans to take
in living up to -- living up to those obligations.

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The Press:
Your position is six-party talks and solving

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the nuclear issue first, then we'll talk about
a peace treaty?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think the way to have the most constructive

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talks is for them to come back to the table
living up to the obligations that they agreed

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to and then walked away from, absolutely.

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The Press:
Robert, a question on the labor meeting --

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are you going to put out a list of the attendees
in advance of the meeting?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can get that -- we'll send that out to you

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as soon as we're done here.

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The Press:
When you keep on saying you're going to have

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a readout or you'll tell us later, in what
form are you going to tell us whatever?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Just a little e-mail.

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The Press:
Just a little -- okay. And a question about

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the meeting itself: A lot of labor leaders
have been saying recently that it's going

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to be very hard for them to motivate their
members and their kind of mid-level leaders

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to do the kind of foot-soldiering the Democratic
candidates are really going to depend on in

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the fall if they don't see progress either
on the Cadillac plans or the Employee Free

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Choice Act, other things that are very important
to them. There's a lot of kind of disillusionment

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in their ranks. What can the President say
to help change their minds?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, the President looks forward to having

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this discussion today. I don't -- I think
working men and women in this country will

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be plenty motivated in 2010 about the choices
that they have in front of them. I don't --

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The Press:
Can I have a quick follow up?

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Mr. Gibbs:
-- let me finish the answer and I will --

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I don't think working men and women --

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The Press:
How many working men and women are meeting

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with labor leaders? I mean, they're part of
the Democratic infrastructure --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I understand that. We're talking about the

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same group of people, yes.

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The Press:
You're saying they'll be plenty motivated

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because -- if you
could finish that last --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Because of the -- I think when one looks at

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what the President's agenda is, and one looks
at the lack of an agenda on the other side

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in dealing with any problem that somebody
in -- a working person in the middle class

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deals with, I don't think it will be a hard
decision to make when one looks at the agenda

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on the President's side: what we've done to
get our economy restarted, to make college

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more affordable, to bring health care to those
that don't have it and to correct insurance

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imbalances for those that do, versus -- I
mean, I hesitate to discuss what's on the

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other side, because I haven't heard anybody
on the other side discuss it, except for a

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series of decisions that want to take us back
to the same place we were in before the 2008

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election. I think working men and women will
ask themselves who is on the side of insurance

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companies and who is on the side of taking
insurance companies on. I think that will

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be an argument that will be front and center,
and I think working men and women will make

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that decision. Who had a follow-up on that?

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The Press:
I did.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Robert, I think the question that some labor

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leaders are asking is that during the campaign,
candidate Obama accused candidate John McCain

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of wanting to tax Cadillac health plans. He
said, "McCain will and I won't." So, why the

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change in position?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no. But understand, Bill, because I know

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you paid attention extensively during the
campaign. Understand -- remember what John

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McCain wanted to do, right -- any plan was
a Cadillac plan, because we were taking the

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tax deductibility of health care out, away.
And that was going to be met -- that would

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be fulfilling your health care needs by handing
you a $2,000 voucher if you were an individual

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or a $5,000 voucher if you were a family.
Now, we've had a long discussion about health

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care in this country over the past eight or
nine months. We're not talking about $2,000

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insurance plans. We're not talking about $5,000
insurance plans for families of four. There

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is a difference between what the President
has supported, which is at a $23,000 level,

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taxing an insurance company that offers a
plan in excess of that amount, versus what

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John McCain proposed, which was to end the
tax deductibility completely for health care

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that's provided in this country. I think they're
fundamentally different -- well, I don't think

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it, they are fundamentally different ideas.

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The Press:
He said, "What if you're one of the steelworkers

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who are working" -- this is Obama -- "What
if you are one of the steelworkers who are

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working right here in Newport News, and you've
given up wage increases in exchange for better

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health care."

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Mr. Gibbs:
I read that on your blog, too. It's the --

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the point I just made to Bill is the same.
There's a difference between --

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The Press:
So it's not inconsistent?

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Mr. Gibbs:
It's not inconsistent because what he was

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talking about was two fundamentally different
things. Removing the tax deductibility of

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any part of your health care and capping for
-- taxing insurance companies that offer

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a health care plan in excess of a $23,000
limit -- they're not in the same ballpark,

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they're not in the same state.

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The Press:
But you don't dispute what the -- about the

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here and now point that the unions make, that
one in four of their rank and file workers

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could be affected by the tax structure in
the Senate bill negatively; you don't dispute

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that, do you?

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Mr. Gibbs:
And that's something I'm sure will come up

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in the President's meeting today.

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The Press:
That's why he's meeting today --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Right.

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The Press:
-- to try to tease that out, right?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Right. But the notion that somehow --

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The Press:
So you don't dispute -- you acknowledge that

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that's an implication of the Senate bill.

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Mr. Gibbs:
If you will acknowledge that what the President

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has talked about and supports and making the
point that somehow that's analogous to what

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he opposed with Senator McCain's proposal
isn't also close to being reality, right?

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The Press:
Sure, I mean -- but I've never -- I've not

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gone down that road. I'm just asking --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no. But in the event that you were to

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travel down that road.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
He doesn't answer hypotheticals.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Right, he doesn't do hypotheticals, right,

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yes.
(laughter)

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The Press:
Thank you, thank you.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Your spokesperson there
saved you on that one.

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The Press:
You're saying the President would abide by

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basically what he said in the campaign, which
is those workers who did negotiate so that

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00:33:33,734 --> 00:33:36,734
they have better health care instead of wage
increases, they would not be impacted?

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00:33:36,734 --> 00:33:37,934
Mr. Gibbs:
That's something they're going to discuss

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00:33:37,934 --> 00:33:42,464
today. Christi. I'm sorry, I'll go back --
go to Christi, and then I'll come back.

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The Press:
On two different topics, if I can. First of

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00:33:44,734 --> 00:33:49,064
all, has the White House Chief of Staff signaled
to the President that he's entertaining the

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idea of leaving to run for any office or to
do anything else?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think he addressed this on --

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The Press:
I'm glad you mentioned that.

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(laughter)

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00:33:57,100 --> 00:33:58,530
Mr. Gibbs:
-- Savannah's new cable show seen daily at

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9:00 a.m.

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(laughter)

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I think he committed to Savannah to be here
through 2010.

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The Press:
He did, indeed. That's MSNBC.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Are there any other high-level personnel changes

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coming that -- (laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
None that I'm aware of, no.

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The Press:
And back to the Yemen transfers or the Guantanamo

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00:34:19,934 --> 00:34:25,234
transfers for just a minute. You halted the
ones to Yemen. Are you still going forward

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as before with repatriations to other countries?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We are continuing the process whereby the

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task force evaluates all that are there for
the status of their case and to understand

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how, in closing Guantanamo Bay, they'll be
dealt with.

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The Press:
Okay. So there's no other kind of hold on

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any other country?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No.

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The Press:
Are people going into rehabilitation programs

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in any country at all? Is that being --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Because we're not -- you know, we've -- this

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is like the third -- we just aren't going
to get into the specifics of agreements that

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are ultimately made in terms of transfer.

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The Press:
Okay, but can you say, are you reviewing the

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Saudi rehab program right now?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, we're making determinations about

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-- making determinations about each case at
Guantanamo Bay.

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The Press:
And is any one of those determinations that

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you are suspending possible transfer into
their rehab program in Saudi Arabia?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'm sure they continue to evaluate but there

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have not been any pronouncements on that.
Yes, ma'am.

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The Press:
Robert, last week Governor Schwarzenegger

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urged his congressional delegation either
to make sure California got the same Medicaid

586
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,900
deal as Nebraska or else vote against the
health care bill. Does the White House support

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extending the Nebraska payment system nationwide?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I would say this, that the President obviously

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understands greatly the fiscal situation the
governors find themselves in. I think a pretty

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00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:06,733
good understanding of how the President feels
is a big chunk of the Recovery Act was for

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FMAP Medicaid funding to go to help states
out of their fiscal situation. And the President

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wants to work with governors in understanding
in tough economic times and in tough budget

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times taking on new challenges. So we're going
to continue to work with governors.

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The Press:
So he would be open to the idea?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think that's certainly part of the discussion.

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Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Back to Yemen, the fact that the President

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of Yemen is even talking about talking to
al Qaeda seems to sort of have thrown quite

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a large conflict with the administration's
policy. Is the White House confident that

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the President of Yemen is -- can be relied
on to help combat extremism there?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, as evidence of the steps that he's taken

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over the last many months to deal with it,
absolutely. And we believe -- we believe that

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the President is taking the necessary steps,
and we continue to support his efforts to

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combat extremism. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
I have two questions, Robert. On Friday you

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addressed Rudy Giuliani's comments that there
were no domestic attacks under Bush. And since

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then he revised his statement to say that
he meant to say no domestic attacks on American

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soil by Islamic terrorists since 9/11.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think that's accurate.

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The Press:
Okay. And my second question --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I mean, you know --

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The Press:
Okay. That was fast.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, no, no, I mean, I think what was missing

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was --

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The Press:
Well, I mean -- right.

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Mr. Gibbs:
What was missing from --

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The Press:
There are several examples, though, that don't

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fit that, so I wanted to see --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I would say this. I haven't -- I can

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go through the -- look at vast numbers of
examples. My point was that the mayor of New

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York had forgotten about an attack that happened
in New York during that administration, and

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I was caught off guard by that fact, as I
think anybody that might have been watching

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was sort of caught off guard by what he was
saying and what he meant to say.

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The Press:
Are you satisfied with the clarification in

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that --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I'd have to look at what other instances he's

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-- again, my point of contention was September
11th, which I thought it was weird that he'd

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forgotten.

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The Press:
And the second question. There's a story on

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the front page of the Daily Caller today,
says something like --

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Mr. Gibbs:
What's that?

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(laughter)

633
00:38:24,934 --> 00:38:30,004
Where's Jon? Is he not -- that joke's no good
if he's not here. Sorry, go ahead.

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The Press:
The story -- the headline is something to

635
00:38:31,433 --> 00:38:36,603
the effect of that the Christmas bomber was
singing like a canary until the Obama administration

636
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read him his rights. And I remember there
was a briefing last weekend, John Brennan

637
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said something like -- I don't know if he
put this fine a point on it, but is it true

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that the FBI is satisfied that they've gotten
all the information that they could out of

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the suspect before he lawyered-up? I thought
I heard him say something like that.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think what I've said and what John has said

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is that the FBI questioned the terror suspect
after the incident, and were satisfied with

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what they -- the usable information that they
got, absolutely.

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The Press:
There's no feeling like they left something

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on the field there?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Or on the table. Keith.

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The Press:
Robert, why isn't the President going to campaign

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for Martha Coakley? It's a tight race, very
important to his agenda, potentially.

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Mr. Gibbs:
It's just not on our schedule to go to next week.

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The Press:
All right, then why is it not on the schedule?

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Mr. Gibbs:
It's just not on the schedule.

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The Press:
Has he been asked by the
Coakley campaign to come?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of.

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The Press:
Has he been asked to stay away?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Is he concerned -- is there concern that his

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-- I mean, it just doesn't make any sense
-- is he concerned that his current popularity

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ratings --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not that I'm aware of.

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The Press:
-- if he goes up there that he might hurt

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her campaign?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, no.

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The Press:
So just not -- it's just not on the schedule.

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It's the scheduler, actually, who has decided
not to send him?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I didn't say it was -- you didn't ask

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me that. We just -- it's not on the schedule
as a trip the President is going to make.

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The Press:
Thanks, Robert.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Ken.

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The Press:
Robert, it looks like Harold Ford is very

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serious about jumping into the Senate race
in New York. What's the White House's position

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on having a candidate like Harold Ford run
for that Senate seat?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, I think the White House is quite happy

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with the leadership and the representation
of Senator Gillibrand in New York, and as

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many are in the DSCC, we're supporting her
reelection. Thanks, guys.

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The Press:
And how would you handicap the chances of

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Rahm and Senator Schumer to clear the field
this time around?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Stay tuned.