Commons talk:Wiki Loves Monuments 2017/Landing pages

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Where to create a landing page for the international Wiki Loves Monuments project?

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At the moment, the global landing page is wikilovesmonuments.org. We have discussed a few times in the international team to make this page better: in terms of its design, flow, aesthetics, and content. We have 500 EUR as part of the 2017 budget that we can spend on branding and illustrations for the landing page. I'd like to start a discussion for the international team to converge on how to proceed. Here are a few things I have in mind:

  • Do we want to keep the hosting service of the blog as WordPress?
  • Do we consider moving the blog to GitHub or even a page on Commons or some other place?
  • We need some UX and design recommendations for the blog.
  • If we pick up the redesigning of the blog for 2017 the goal would be to make it more easily maintaintable, the content more organized and more easily discoverable for our audiences, and to provide a design that can be used by local organizers as well (maybe a set of templates that we can all share and use?).

Please share your thoughts, and if possible. In terms of timelines, let's plan to conclude this discussion by 2017-08-06. Thanks. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 18:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's totally doable to host wikilovesmonuments.org on Github and getting content for blog from Commons page via API. It needs some work but concept can be easily reused later for other projects.
Regarding UX, we probably won't have enough time to implement designs so if we want to do this, we will need HTML + CSS ready. Yarl 💭  23:16, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I always found Wordpress a helpful way of running it as a blog - it is accessible for a wider group of people with little experience with MediaWiki, and it doesn't make us depend on changes on Commons in layout etc. I'm not sure what 'moving to GitHub' would imply here. What would that mean, in practice?
The most important first step is probably to make sure we all agree on what we want to achieve with wikilovesmonuments.org . For me, it is an important fallback page - whenever no country is known, or the local website somehow crumbles, people should be able to find their way to the international site. Also, it should give a reliable and professional impression of the international competition. Having a history of older posts and announcements helps with that - but there are more ways of accomplishing that. Effeietsanders (talk) 11:35, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
PS: I recommend we only do a major overhaul if we are confident that it can actually go live one week before 1 Sept - it shouldn't get in the way of our other work. Effeietsanders (talk) 17:08, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To be clear: we won't necessarily replace the current website for this year. If some magic happens and we get there, we switch, if not, we don't. In any case, we should have this conversation and start making progress for the website (or it will never happen;), if not for this year, for the next one, or for when we announce the results, etc. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 02:37, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Do we want to keep the hosting service of the blog as WordPress?
Do we pay for WP? Cost is a good reason to switch.
I personally like running a static site on github. It's fairly easy to build and edit with a system like jekyll, and it's also easy for people to fork for their local campaign. Plus, it encourages keeping the code available and open source. I'm less a fan of something custom like loading content from the Commons page via API -- that seems like a potential stability and maintenance pain.
Do we consider moving the blog to GitHub or even a page on Commons or some other place?
I'd vote against moving everything to Commons. I think it's valuable to have a well-designed external site for a general audience, that links to Commons for more detail.
Should we get some UX and design recommendations for the blog?
Yes, I think so.
There a few users that we should consider for the blog:
  • People who love photography/monuments - We should showcase all the great photos from previous years. This is probably the biggest potential audience for the blog, and people we should consider converting into participants and/or coordinators.
  • Competition participants - How do you submit your photo for Wiki Loves Monuments?
  • Competition coordinators - How do you start and run Wiki Loves Monuments in your country?
Regardless of whether we move to github or stay on wordpress, I think we can refresh the content to make sure we're answering the most important questions.
Should the re-design be built as a template for local organizers?
Well, I think the local campaigns will have a slightly different design than the international landing page. I do think it's valuable to provide a template for local organizers. Slaporte (talk) 19:21, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your input. We have created a task to continue with design and implementation discussions. --LilyOfTheWest (talk) 03:01, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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@Romaine: Wiki Loves Monuments includes monuments in Wales. We have a separate landing page in Welsh for people who will see the banner on cy.wikipedia.org. Is how I've added it to the table correct? Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 13:09, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Nevell (WMUK): I don't think the centralnotice can target people from Wales... at least as far as I can see in existing campaigns. You could however consider filtering by language/country combination? (looking at Romaine for that) THat would limit it to people who are browsing in Welsh, though. Effeietsanders (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be fine to target people reading in Welsh since the page is written in Welsh. We wouldn't want to send everyone from Wales to that page, as not everyone can read the language. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 21:09, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What I can do in the CentralNotice system is creating a banner for people reading Wikipedia in Welsh in the UK, and link for those people to the Welsh landing page. Specifically targeting for Wales is not possible in the system, but everyone who reads in Welsh in the UK is possible, which can be in Wales but also someone in Cornwall, London or Scotland. Romaine (talk) 10:22, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Romaine: Thank you, that would work nicely. Richard Nevell (WMUK) (talk) 12:01, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

request change of landing page

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Hi, I request change of landing page for WLM Pakistan from https://wlm.carrd.co to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_Pakistan. There seems to be some issues with the wlm.carrd.co landing page. --Saqib (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Romaine: . Effeietsanders (talk) 09:04, 6 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done Changed - Romaine (talk) 16:13, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Saqib: FYI. Effeietsanders (talk) 10:20, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, after solving the problem at the site, and after the decision of the board of WMIT, I ask to restore the link at the Central Notice to the landing page wikilovesmonuments.wikimedia.it. Or, please, tell me who or where to ask. Thank you --Cristian Cenci (WMIT) 13:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Romaine: Effeietsanders (talk) 06:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Done Done - Romaine (talk) 07:11, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Romaine: ! --Cristian Cenci (WMIT) 14:44, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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