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Archive 1

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Commons:Categories for discussion/2013/09/Category:Mercer County Route 546 (New Jersey)

The user who first created this category got a little too overzealous with the subdividing of relevant road categories into counties; in this example, CR 546 runs entirely in Mercer County so a sub category is not needed. However, this may induce a discussion on sorting photos into "by-county" cats so I wanted to post a link here. ——Mr. Matté — 'pedia talk 02:26, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Rs chen 7754 05:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shield redirects

I have been creating redirects for US Highway shields as a way to simplify how Template:Jct is coded on ENWP. This is sort of encouraged at Help:File redirect. –Fredddie ™ 01:49, 18 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bot requested to re-tag Yellow Book maps

FYI. --Admr Boltz 14:53, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done If you see any accidental PD-USGov-DOT-DOT that would be my inexperience with regex... --Admr Boltz 16:39, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

M1-1 Shields Retagged

All M1-1 shields should now be tagged {{PD-USGov-MUTCD|M1-1}}. --Admr Boltz 19:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Delaware State Route shields

FYI. --Admr Boltz 14:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Highway Route Marker Bot

So... I think we may need to have someone create a clone of this bot. The source code is listed on the bot's page... but the user seems to be completely gone... Anyone up for the task? --Admr Boltz 18:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Highway shield galleries

If you see a shield gallery in the "article space", such as Iowa County Route shields, it is acceptable to redirect it to the category that holds all the files. There is no reason to duplicate in a gallery what a category was designed to do. –Fredddie ™ 17:55, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Shield categories

Most of the categories that contain the shields we use every day are an incoherent mess, see Category:M1-1 - Interstate Route Sign for an example. We should come up with an organization tree for sorting them. After that, we should look at maps and pictures, though I don't think those are nearly as bad as the shield categories. –Fredddie ™ 22:18, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New licensing templates

Thanks to Dough4872 for filling out more information on the various state MUTCD supplements on COM:USRD/L. Based on that research, I've been able to create the licensing templates for the following states:

IN {{PD-MUTCD-IN}} was oddly missing previously, but it has been created. All of these are ready for use to retag files as needed to supply the proper copyright license for state highway markers.

The remaining states and territories will need to be contacted to either obtain their supplements, or to get other evidence of copyright status. Imzadi 1979 → 06:54, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming shields

I want to get some feedback about renaming route marker signs at Commons. When new sign formats come in, instead of overwriting the existing files I suggest moving/renaming them. For example, Alberta's shield went from File:Alberta Highway 10.svg to File:Alberta primary highway template.svg in 2013. My suggestion is when creating new files, if there is a conflict with the old file is to move it to File:Alberta Highway 10 (1970s).svg. That way we still have a copy of the old sign.

An alternative would be to create a new naming scheme, however this presents several issues to me:

It makes it harder to find markers for discontinued routes.
It can cause template errors for templates using discontinued routes.
It would also make files with the old name somewhat misleading.

A third alternative would be to upload the new files with a new naming scheme, move the old files to a new naming scheme, and create redirects to the old naming scheme. This seems problematic because:

It is more complex
The naming scheme would not be obvious when files are missing, and people will create new files based on the old naming scheme.

Thoughts? I bring this up because HRMB has a request for file mover privileges at Commons:Bots/Requests/Highway Route Marker Bot (2).

--Svgalbertian (talk) 17:58, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Long term, it would help if we could further standardize the naming schemes. In the mean time, it would help to implement a slight variant of your first proposal. For example, Michigan is on its fourth variation of its highway marker. They were introduced, at least nominally, in 1919, 1926, 1948 and 1973.

1919
1926
1948
1973

For the sake of argument, let's assume that the state changes the block M on the current design to use the script M used on the Pure Michigan ad campaign, and the effective year of changeover is 2016. In that case, we would:

Create the "M 1973" type for the infobox and jct templates, calling the marker graphics using the new naming scheme from the next step.
Run the bot to move the markers from one naming scheme to the other, leaving behind redirects. Essentially the "M 1973" and "M" codes would then call the same series of graphics in the interim, the former directly and the latter through the redirect.
Switch the articles on former highways that were decommissioned 1973–2015 to use the "M 1973" type code instead of "M". Visually, nothing will change because of the redirects.
On "Changeover Day" in 2016, we run the bot again to replace those redirects with the new style graphics. Once the servers recache the articles, the new markers would appear for the "M" code, and the older ones would appear for the "M 1973" code.
Profit.

As an example, M-107 was decommissioned a few years ago. Its article should not display the newer style marker because it was never signed with it. By doing the above, the M-107 and M-64 markers in the infobox and junction list on the M-107 article would remain frozen in time. M-64 is still a current highway, so it should always be displaying the current marker style until such time as it is ever decommissioned. The type codes on the M-64 article won't be changed, and the markers will seamlessly update once the servers recache the article after the second bot run on "Changeover Day".

In this hypothetical scenario, the "M" type code is always the current marker specification, and we only have to implement the appropriate year-specific type codes for former highways, which then should always be using the appropriate period-specific graphics. Imzadi 1979 → 19:53, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Louisiana is probably a good case study for how we've done it, even if we've only made a handful of new shields.

Louisiana 1.svg is the green and white style while

Louisiana 976 (2008).svg is the new black and white style. Louisiana is going through a mass decommissioning, so we're not exactly sure which highways are going to make it through. The ones that don't survive will not get a black and white shield. Once they're made, the green shields will use the "LA 1990" type and "LA" will be for black and white shields.

I could be wrong, but we're all sort of on the same page. –Fredddie ™ 23:41, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"The ones that don't survive will not get a black and white shield." That's silly, since they've survived into the black shield era. --NE2 (talk) 02:11, 24 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If a highway is never signed with a black shield, it seems sillier to display it with one on Wikipedia, no? —Scott5114 ↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:47, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We have shields for unsigned routes. So no. And it's not like we know exactly which ones have been replaced between 2008 and the current culling. --NE2 (talk) 09:39, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for Discussion

I started Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2015/05#Category:M1-1_-_Interstate_Route_Sign –Fredddie ™ 22:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Maryland PNG shields

See above. --Rs chen 7754 23:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Three MD requests

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Rs chen 7754 07:18, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Also Commons:Deletion requests/File:Oklahoma 74B.svg --Rs chen 7754 07:25, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:HI320.jpg

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Rs chen 7754 18:17, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Interstate10LA.png

See above. --Rs chen 7754 23:08, 1 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Rs chen 7754 22:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Rs chen 7754 06:28, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Next round of PNG/JPG deletions

Rs chen 7754 04:47, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Connecticut Highway 354.png

See above. --Rs chen 7754 23:15, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Virginia Route 209 Shield - Old.png

See above. --Rs chen 7754 04:31, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Obsolete shields in Texas

Rs chen 7754 00:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization rules

We need to create some guidelines for categorization. There is a serious overcategorization problem here at Commons, and I'd like COM:USRD to be a model of how to clean up a project. –Fredddie ™ 22:24, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Workshop at WikiConference North America 2021

This coming Friday afternoon, I'll be giving an online workshop at WikiConference North America on how to draw a basic SVG road sign diagram. The workshop will not be recorded, but I'll try to make some of the materials accessible on Commons for those who can't make it. Registration is free; please spread the word. Minh Nguyễn ^💬 04:51, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote up my presentation and workflow in this Etherpad. If there's interest, I can make a screen recording of the workflow and upload it to Commons, but hopefully this is a decent starting point for interested contributors. Minh Nguyễn ^💬 03:56, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Old Michigan US Highway shields

An open nomination that may interest project members. Imzadi 1979 → 00:12, 12 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Texas Ranch to Market shields (PNG)

See above. Rs chen 7754 02:38, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Commons talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Archive 1

Categorizing

Notification about possible deletion

Shield redirects

M1-1 Shields Retagged

Highway shield galleries

Shield categories

New licensing templates

Renaming shields

Categories for Discussion

Three MD requests

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Notification about possible deletion

Notification about possible deletion

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Obsolete shields in Texas

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