Commons talk:Copyright rules by territory/Denmark
WWF panda logo
[edit]Is the WWF panda logo actually not protected by copyright, and so can it be uploaded on Commons?
@Aymatth2: I couldn't find either "U 1998:946 S" nor "NIR 69:3". Do you have a link or a book name? The RedBurn (talk) 10:38, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- I could not find the cited cases either, and dropped the claim that the logo is free. This page says it is © 1986 WWF. Aymatth2 (talk) 11:47, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, but where did you find it? It could be legitimate. The RedBurn (talk) 09:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- I just copied the statement from COM:CRT#Denmark when I broke out COM:CRT into individual pages for each country. The WWF says the logo is their trademark and copyrighted since 1986, and I see no reason to dispute that. Possibly a Danish court has said it is not original enough to be copyrighted in Denmark, but Wikimedia can only accept images that are clearly free of copyright in the U.S. and the country of origin, presumably the U.K. 1986 is much too recent. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Well, I haven't been able to find it on COM:CRT#Denmark at any date. Are you sure you added it from there? I can't even find the gallery there. The RedBurn (talk) 08:15, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- I just copied the statement from COM:CRT#Denmark when I broke out COM:CRT into individual pages for each country. The WWF says the logo is their trademark and copyrighted since 1986, and I see no reason to dispute that. Possibly a Danish court has said it is not original enough to be copyrighted in Denmark, but Wikimedia can only accept images that are clearly free of copyright in the U.S. and the country of origin, presumably the U.K. 1986 is much too recent. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, but where did you find it? It could be legitimate. The RedBurn (talk) 09:06, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I have tracked down what happened.
- On 30 October 2011 User:Pieter Kuiper added File:WWFbalaobrasilia22032007.jpg to Commons:Threshold of originality#Denmark with this edit.
- The file may have come from here.
- On 9 June 2012 User:Pieter Kuiper was blocked indefinitely for abusing multiple accounts: Using multiple IPs to disruptively sock around block.
- On 14 July 2017 due to Commons:Deletion requests/File:WWFbalaobrasilia22032007.jpg the file was deleted.
- With this diff, User:CommonsDelinker removed the file name from Commons:Threshold of originality#Denmark.
- The entry at Commons:Threshold of originality#Denmark now had a gallery line:
|The WWF panda logo not protected by copyright (Sø- og Handelsretten (The Maritime and Commercial Court) in March 1998, U 1998:946 S and NIR 69:3, p. 413-418 [2000])
- This was not visible because it did not start with a file name.
- On 22 November 2018 with this diff and this diff I moved COM:TOO#Denmark to COM:TOO Denmark (this page). (It is now transcluded to COM:TOO#Denmark.)
- On 5 January 2009 I added the text "WWF panda logo" when formatting the list of images as a table.
So User:CommonsDelinker should perhaps have removed the whole line, not just the file name, and I should have thought for 5 seconds before making the line visible again. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:45, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for this research! For some reason WikiBlame couldn't find it when I tried.
- About this claim, actually since http://domstol.fe1.tangora.com/robots.txt disallows search engines we couldn't find even the pdf files linked for the sketches of windows and doors. There's a search engine (http://domstol.fe1.tangora.com/page13990.aspx) but it doesn't search inside pdf files, only in the summary (http://domstol.fe1.tangora.com/S%C3%B8geside---domme.13990/V-0098-01.15.aspx for sketches of windows and doors). The RedBurn (talk) 21:22, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
So are Denmark stamps copyrighted or not?
[edit]--Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 00:46, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- I would say they are copyrighted in the normal way, typically publication + 70 years unless the author is identified, in which case life + 70 years. They are not public documents, and there are no special rules for works made for the government. Aymatth2 (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
- +2. I added a section to the article about how they are copyrighted per the normal term. Feel free to change the wording if it can be improved on. --Adamant1 (talk) 16:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
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