Commons:Featured picture candidates/removal/File:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima by Joe Rosenthal.jpg

File:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima by Joe Rosenthal.jpg (delist and replace), not delisted

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 5 May 2019 at 07:28:59

•  Info Better quality and larger frame. For such a historical picture, it is better to keep it as close to the original as possible. (Original nomination)
•  Delist and replace -- Yann (talk) 07:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Delist and replace --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 08:12, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Delist and replace I agree. Charles (talk) 08:35, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Delist and replace Adam Cuerden (talk) 09:14, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Delist and replace Cmao20 (talk) 10:12, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Delist and replace --Aristeas (talk) 15:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
• Why don't we simply feature the original, File:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, larger.jpeg? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:09, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

• Good point--BoothSift 04:10, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

• This version has some careful editing by Bammesk. Regards, Yann (talk) 04:56, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

•  Comment the new edit by Bammesk is visibly less sharp than the original linked above (and the noise is gone), I would prefer the much sharper original. – Lucas 18:19, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

• The file page has two uploads, the difference between the two uploads is the noise removal. The first upload is as sharp as the original, it can be copied to a new file page if consensus goes that way. I prefer less grain/noise, but I thought others may disagree, therefore two uploads. (I don't know much about Commons FP nom process, User:Yann feel free to do what you think is right). FWIW, the original image has lots of abnormal patches in the sky area (some are not easy to see), so the edited image is an improvement. Bammesk (talk) 19:13, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

•  Comment The original was made by an expert representing the reality of the moment, it is always better to keep the original as FP and not a destructive edition (noise reduction, colors alterations whatever). --Wilfredor (talk) 22:46, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Wilfredor: Which original are you talking about? Regards, Yann (talk) 04:30, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

•  Delist and replace Daniel Case (talk) 23:43, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose both versions. I really wish people would stop trying to digitally "enhance" perfectly fine analog images. For the current FP that refers to the sharpening that has been applied, resulting in a sharpening halo along the back of the left soldier. For the proposed alternative, that's the attempt to "de-noise" the film grain. seriously, that's like applying a gaussian blur to a digital reproduction of a painting because you can see the brush strokes. And if the original has some imperfections due to the analog chemical process used at the time, so be it. Let's go for File:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, larger.jpeg, which seems to be the most faithful representation of the original. --El Grafo (talk) 10:17, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
• Changing to  Oppose in favour of File:Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima, larger.jpeg. I am quite in agreement with El Grafo here. The edited version is considerably and visibly less sharp than the linked original, and personally I prefer a bit of noise to a lack of sharpness any day. There was IMO no real need to fix the imperfections of a good analogue image. Cmao20 (talk) 14:20, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose both versions per Cmao and El Grafo. --BoothSift 03:56, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose per mine and other's comments above. Neither over-sharpening, cropping, de-noising are necessary here. – Lucas 10:18, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose both version per Cmao and El Grafo -- Colin (talk) 17:56, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
•  Oppose in favor of the original, per others. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

 I withdraw my nomination This is not going to succeed. I will propose the other version later. Yann (talk) 09:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Result: 6 delist and replace, 6 oppose, 0 neutral => not delisted. Basile Morin (talk) 01:28, 2 May 2019 (UTC)