Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Toni Frissell - Frida Kahlo, seated next to an agave.jpg

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File:Toni Frissell - Frida Kahlo, seated next to an agave.jpg, not featured

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Artist Frida Kahlo in 1937

@Yann, Alvesgaspar, El Grafo, and Tremonist: I would like to point out that, as an artist only really recognized after her death, there aren't a huge number of photographs of Kahlo, and fewer free-licensed ones. Commons has an educational mission, and I do think that that should have some effect on FPC, even if it's not the only consideration we use. If people want to point to a better free-licensed Kahlo image, I will restore it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:25, 19 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I understand, but that has never been much an argument for FPC on Commons. However it would certainly be a VI, and may be on the English WP? Regards, Yann (talk) 09:02, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Adam Cuerden: educational value or rareness of a subject traditionally play a minor role in everyday Commons FPC life – that's what COM:VIC is for. It is possible to overcome things like lack of sharpness or bad composition though educational value, if that value is high enough to create a "Wow!" effect for the reviewers (example 1, example2). But that's difficult, and it seems that at least for the three opposers, that wasn't sufficient to overcome the perceived shortcomings of the image.
Commons FPC is all about finding the finest picture, the best of the best, the Crème de la Crème – and I stand by my opinion that this isn't one of them. However, I would highly recommend trying to nominate it for FPC at Wikipedia, where educational value seems to play a much more important role – if I would participate there, I'd vote for it. (I'm not so sure about VI, since something like File:Frida Kahlo, by Guillermo Kahlo.jpg might be preferred over there) --El Grafo (talk) 09:56, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Done, thanks for the idea. ;o) BTW I am surprised that there isn't a license for this file. I am not sure if the current template is sufficient. I expect more for a FPC. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:32, 21 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: The license is certainly accurate if you read the LoC page linked - explicitly released by Toni Frissell, and the LoC checked with Vogue and tthey confirmed she had that right:
“ Images for which the Library holds original negative: Per the instrument of gift, Miss Frissell dedicated to the public the rights she held to original negatives in her collection, and she orally informed the Library that she held the rights to those images. This assertion is supported by Vogue Magazine, for which Miss Frissell was a staff photographer from 1933 to the late 1940s. They have informed the Library in writing that they claim no rights to images for which the Library holds the negatives. However, privacy and publicity rights may apply. ”
I certainly do agree the template could be improved, though. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:08, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: Made some improvements. Adam Cuerden (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, much better. Yann (talk) 08:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 3 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /KTC (talk) 23:39, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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