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File:Siegerrebe IMG 6784.jpg, not featured
[edit]Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 12 Oct 2022 at 16:16:46 (UTC)
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- Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Food and drink#Winemaking
- Info created by Fischer.H - uploaded by Fischer.H - nominated by Fischer.H -- Fischer.H (talk) 16:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- Fischer.H (talk) 16:16, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Fischer.H: Please fix the category above. Yann (talk) 18:49, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support We have surprisingly few FPs of grapes (I can only find two) and this one is beautifully lit and well composed Cmao20 (talk) 20:05, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose The background is a mixture of bright and dark, making it distracting. --SHB2000 (talk) 09:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Support per Cmao20. I have changed the gallery link to point to the section which already includes the two existing grapes FPs. --Aristeas (talk) 12:58, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose Harsh light in my view, but the picture is worth the QI badge -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:01, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Info As for the gallery, more featured pictures of grapes can be found under #Winemaking --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 21:24, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
- Oops – that’s an excellent hint, Frank! Question @all: Well, IMHO all grape FPs should be united on one and the same FP gallery page. What do you people think: Should we unite them (1) in the Plants#Family : Vitaceae gallery section or (2) in the Food and drink#Winemaking section? (Especially pinging Cart as long-time FP gallery page expert.) Best, --Aristeas (talk) 07:21, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think the galleries should be merged. It's always tricky to draw the line in the food gallery. When does a plant, fish, animal, etc. cease to be that and become food? I have previously tried to sort things as food when it is ripe, dead, processed, prepared or whatever is needed for it to soon become edible. If we merge the two galleries mentioned above, we might as well merge all the raw fruit into the plant galleries, the dead fish and pig heads into the various animal galleries or place salt with the minerals. The three photos currently in the Plants#Family : Vitaceae gallery are 1) not yet ripe and mostly showing how the grapes grow on stems, 2) showing the grapes as part of the large plant, 3) showing only leaves. In a way, all galleries are subjective to what the photographer tried to convey with their photo. Does this photo here show the plant or the raw material for winemaking? --Cart (talk) 10:57, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed, the galleries shouldn'd be merged. I'd add the image above to winemaking. --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 12:02, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Cart – this is a very good explanation. I agree that according to this rule we would add the photo discussed here to the Winemaking gallery because it emphasizes the (almost) ripe grape; I have changed the proposed gallery link accordingly. Best, --Aristeas (talk) 12:45, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Aristeas, another thing that differentiates photos of food from the plants or animals, is the style and way in which it is photographed. There is often a different set of "rules" when you shoot food, especially in modern food photography. Unfortunately, FPC has not really accepted this reality, which is why the FP food gallery is so small. It would be great for the project if people could read the Food photography article and perhaps spend some time online and with books about this huge and popular branch of photography. Also 'pinging' Frank, since I think he knows where I'm going with this. --Cart (talk) 16:44, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Cart, thanks for the ping. Yes, increasing our knowledge in areas that aren't well represented here at FPC, has been on my mind for years. I strongly support the idea of people reading books about topics like food photography, as well as on other genres that are missing here – if someone is interested, but doesn't know which books to start with, please feel free to reach out to me. I've bought a lot of books about different genres of photography over the years (e.g. portrait photography, food photography, street photography, travel photography, conflict/war photography, conservation photography) and I'd be happy to provide recommendations if needed. With that being said, I've recently been thinking about doing some street photography and I'd be glad if I could find others who are interested and would like to join such an effort… Best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 22:52, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
- Cart, thank you for the hint. I know about the peculiarities of food photography – my parents used to do, among other things, food photography –, but, as you say, this is not widespread among our community … Therefore I heartily second Frank’s wish to spread such knowledge. --Aristeas (talk) 09:22, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Strong oppose No wow, casual shot of fruits. At the limit of QI to me, because of motion blur at full screen. --Sebring12Hrs (talk) 08:34, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Grapes not all in focus. Daniel Case (talk) 02:53, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 3 support, 4 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:06, 12 October 2022 (UTC)