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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Objects
Info created & uploaded by User:ComputerHotline (Thomas Bresson) - nominated by User:Ikan Kekek -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support - A street with 9 pretty Christmas lights, just in time for another year's holiday. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:47, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 03:04, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 07:22, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support lNeverCry 07:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support Jee 08:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support --cart-Talk 10:08, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support -- Johann Jaritz (talk) 12:48, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support --Joalpe (talk) 16:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Support --Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 18:59, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Deeply regretful oppose So well done in every way ... but I don't think this can be a free image. Not in France. If we can't have pictures of the Eiffel Tower at night due France not having FoP and the lighting setup on the tower being copyrighted, any lighting display in France doesn't come under FoP either. Sorry. Daniel Case (talk) 22:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
Question - You're saying these lights are copyrighted? How do we know they are? Would some action have to have been taken to copyright them? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:30, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- I believe French copyright is opt-out, so like American works the lighting designs are copyrighted by virtue of their creation. Daniel Case (talk) 05:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- With French FoP it depends on whether or not the display is above COM:TOO. This image is of a structure/set-up with a high degree of originality. I've filed a deletion request. lNeverCry 03:46, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Comment On the other hand, for this photo, one may plausibly consider it a larger depiction of the street, in which it is unavoidable to contain some copyrighted elements. In that case, we don't have to delete it --- for example, see the Louvre pyramid example in Commons:De minimis. But I'll leave the decision of whether this can be considered de minimis to others. dllu (t,c) 05:14, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Comment Daniel Case, in the Eiffel Tower, it is not the light which is copyrighted, but a show. There is no copyright on light in France. There may be a copyright on design though. Regards, Yann (talk) 10:54, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yann, do you think I should unwithdraw? On an artistic basis, I definitely think this is a featurable picture, and it appears that a consensus agrees. If there's a real question about whether this photo could be OK under French law as interpreted by Commons, I would unwithdraw. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:22, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- I am not sure actually. There are very few real court cases about stuff like this. Probably people give some €€€ rather than going to court. On one hand we have copyright on design, including some modern chairs, on the other hand, there are 2 court cases with clear exceptions where copyrighted items are "unavoidable" while taking pictures in the public place. One single garland is certainly OK, but a whole street with a coordinated setup... Regards, Yann (talk) 12:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yann, do you think I should unwithdraw? On an artistic basis, I definitely think this is a featurable picture, and it appears that a consensus agrees. If there's a real question about whether this photo could be OK under French law as interpreted by Commons, I would unwithdraw. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:22, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Comment - I don't think this street scene is comparable to a photo of the front facade of the Louvre, showing the pyramid as part of the picture. I shall have to
withdraw. :( Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:38, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
Result: 9 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /lNeverCry 22:57, 17 December 2016 (UTC)