Commons:Bundesarchiv/Error reports/Archive/2021

File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-E13139, 90. Geburtstag von August von Mackensen.jpg

Hi, just wandering what is wrong with this description. Caption reads: Unser Bild zeigt von rechts nach links: Generalfeldmarschall von Mackensen, seinen Adjutanten Oberstleutnant Hans-Henning von Gersdorff, Botschafter von Mackensen - den Sohn des Marschalls, Frau von Mackensen und Generaloberst von Brauchitsch, der dem Jubilar die Glückwünsche des Heeres überbrachte. Wondering if Rudolf-Christoph von Gersdorff is in the image. Also don't seem to find Leonie von der Osten. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 07:21, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

As far as we can see it's Hans-Henning von Gersdorff on the picture, we couldn't identify Rudolf-Christoph von Gersdorff. But you are right, it's not Dorothea von Horn but Leonie von der Osten (3rd person from left). Also we added Leonie von der Osten at Bild 183-R11236 - so thank you very much for your advice, we have changed it already in our database www.bild.bundesarchiv.de and on Wikimedia Commons!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv Bild 101I-668-7197-11, Reichsgebiet, Flugzeuge Ju 53 und Me 323 Gigant.jpg

Hallo, der Dateiname ist ja offensichtlich ein Tippfehler, da in der Beschreibung richtig "Ju 52" (genauer ist es ja sogar eine Ju 52/3m, dreimotorig) steht. Ich wollte es nicht einfach ändern lassen, sodass der kleine Schreibfehler dann vielleicht auch im Archiv geradegezogen werden kann. Vielen Dank an das Bundesarchiv für Ihre gute Arbeit. Grüße --GeisterPirat (talk) 12:13, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

OK Vielen Dank für den Hinweis, der Schreibfehler ist in der Bundesarchiv-Bilddatenbank und auf Wikimedia Commons geändert!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 21:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-F078356-0006, Bonn, AA, Rechtshilfeabkommen mit Österreich (cropped) - Friedrich Bauer.jpg

Hello, just to inform: caption reads Friedrich Bauer, österreichischer Botscher in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland. Should this be corrected? Thank you foryour time. Lotje (talk) 08:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh sorry, that was my fault after cropping the source file. This is the wiki-description (added by us users), not part of the original description from the Bundesarchiv (therefore the two fields in the template). Fixed now. Thanks! --Mirer (talk) 15:49, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv Bild 101II-MW-6416-10A, Frankreich, St. Nazaire, Admiral.jpg

In der Beschreibung dieses auf Mai 1942 datierten Bildes wird der dargestellte Admiral Eugen Lindau als "Marinebefehlshaber Nord-Frankreich" bezeichnet. Diesen Posten hatte er jedoch bereits im Februar 1941 verlassen, um anschließend bis August 1942 als Marinebefehlshaber Westfrankreich eingesetzt zu werden. Als Aufnahmeort ist zudem Saint-Nazaire angegeben, das im Befehlsbereich Westfrankreich lag. Die korrekte Unterschrift sollte also lauten "Marinebefehlshaber Westfrankreich". --KuK (talk) 19:13, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@KuK: this page being on my watchlist, I noticed your comment. Do you mean this is Johannes Bachmann? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 13:31, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. No, this is not Bachmann but Lindau, but his function at that time was not „Marinebefehlshaber Nord-Frankreich“ as indicated in the text, but „Marinebefehlshaber Westfrankreich“. --KuK (talk) 14:16, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

KuK Man hilft den BA-Mitarbeitern gewöhnlich besser, wenn man sie auf vorhandene Artikel verweist, also hier de:Eugen Lindau, auch wenn im konkreten Fall das Bild genau dort verlinkt ist und im Artikel keinerlei Quellenangaben zu den Lebensdaten vorhanden sind und man raten muss, ob sie der einzigen Literaturangabe entnommen sind. — Speravir – 23:53, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

OK Vielen Dank für den Hinweis und natürlich auch den hilfreichen Link zu Eugen Lindau, der Schreibfehler ist in der Bundesarchiv-Bilddatenbank und auf Wikimedia Commons geändert!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 14:03, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-F078356-0006, Bonn, AA, Rechtshilfeabkommen mit Österreich.jpg

Zitat:

Von links: Friedrich Bauer, Hans-Werner Lautenschlager

und

Der Staatssekretär des Auswärtigen Amtes, Dr. Hans-Werner Lautenschlager (r.) und der österreichische Botschafter in Bonn, Dr. Friedrich Bauer, unterzeichnen im Auswärtigen Amt einen Vertrag zwischen der Bundesrepublik Deutschland und der Republik Österreich über Amts- und Rechtshilfe in Verwaltungssachen.

Es ist (bei diesem Bild - es gibt noch ein zweites, von wo die Beschreibung wohl kopiert wurde) umgekehrt: Lautenschläger links und Bauer rechts. --Mirer (talk) 00:32, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

OK Vielen Dank für den Hinweis, den in der Originalvorlage (Kontaktbogen) leider vorhandenen Fehler haben wir in der Bundesarchiv-Bilddatenbank und auf Wikimedia Commons geändert!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 14:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv Bild 141-0068, Flugzeug Junkers Ju 89.jpg

This photograph is not of a Ju 89, rather a Junkers Ju 90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_Ju_90 aircraft — yes the latter was developed from the former but the aircraft depicted here appears to be one of several Ju 90 commercial airliners that were impressed into Luftwaffe service after 1939. Tail section, rudders, gun turret installation, fuselage cross section and wing profile seen in this view are those of a Ju 90, along with the cylindrical shaped cowlings of BMW 132 radial engines (the Ju 89 was fitted with slim liquid cooled inline DB 600 or Jumo engine cowlings). Reference sources seem to indicate that the sole two V1 and V2 prototype examples of the Ju 89 had been scrapped by the end of 1939, although Green (1970) cites that they were briefly converted for military transport use (as were Ju 90s) during 1939–40 and served with Kampfgruppe z.b.V. 105 during the invasion of Norway (this could have been an erroneous reference to former Lufthansa Ju 90s used in that campaign).

(Later variants of the Ju 90 such as the V5 and V6 were developed specifically as military transports, and are further distinguished from the original aircraft by a new wing, new oval-shaped vertical tails, lower fuselage powered boarding ramp, engine upgrades and other changes. These and other Ju 90 variants were developed into the Luftwaffe's Junkers Ju 290.)

References —

Die großen Dessauer — Junkers Ju 89, Ju 90, Ju 290, Ju 390: Die Geschichte einer Flugzeugefamilie by Karl Kössler and Günther Ott, Aviatik Verlag GmbH, 1993.

The Warplanes of the Third Reich by William Green with line drawings by Dennis Punnett, Macdonald & Co., 1970. — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 97.120.24.163 (talk) 02:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, wondering if this Karl Kössler is the author of Die großen Dessauer — Junkers Ju 89, Ju 90, Ju 290, Ju 390: Die Geschichte einer Flugzeugefamilie by Karl Kössler and Günther Ott. Would be interesting to know if that is the same person as one of the team members of ADL. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 09:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

OK Thank you very much for your advice, we have changed it already in our database www.bild.bundesarchiv.de and on Wikimedia Commons!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 14:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-W1126-311, Berlin, DDR-Gründung, 9. Volksratsitzung, Rede Pieck.jpg

Auf dem Bild ist an der angegebenen Position nicht Bernhard Koenen sondern Wilhelm Koenen zu sehen. -- Lotse (talk) 07:18, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

OK Vielen Dank für den Hinweis, ist in der Bundesarchiv-Bilddatenbank www.bild.bundesarchiv.de und auf Wikimedia Commons im Feld "Archivtitel" geändert! Den Fehler im "Originaltitel" belassen wir hingegen unberichtigt.--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 15:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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Category:Photographs by Sierstoopff, PK

Hi, coming across this category, I was wondering if there could be a typo, Sierstorpff instead like for aexample here. Might be reading error by a bot. Lotje (talk) 16:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

There are various spelllings, cf. Sierstorpff (Sierstorpp) or Sierstoopff [Sierstoppf, Sierstoppff]. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 11:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you тнояsтеn, that makes it easyer to understand. :-) Lotje (talk) 12:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Meanwhile we found some published photos in our collection, where the name is spelled "Sierstorpff", so we changed all photos in our online database. We never renamed a categary on commons ("https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Sierstoopff,_PK" > "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Photographs_by_Sierstorpff,_PK"), so we appreciate any help ;-) --Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 14:48, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bundesarchiv-B6: do you mean you wish the file moved to Category:Photographs by Sierstorpff, PK and the existing category to be deleted? Lotje (talk) 15:51, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Moved the files to the new category and left old one as redirect. Name of photographer in the files' descriptions should be corrected as well. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 13:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

@тнояsтеn, thanks for the file-move, that's what I really wanted to say / write - sorry @Lotje --Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Everything's resolved here, isn’t it? — Speravir – 18:35, 4 July 2021 (UTC):This section was archived on a request by: --Speravir 18:35, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

File:Bundesarchiv B 145 Bild-F042001-0033, Bonn, Plenarsitzung des Bundesrates.jpg

Bildbeschreibung: Rechts Hans-Dietrich Genscher, links Staatssekretär Horst Grabert

Es ist natürlich umgekehrt. --Mirer (talk) 02:40, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Should this description be adapted too? It states: People in the image: Genscher, Hans-Dietrich: Außenminister, Innenminister, Vorsitzender der FDP, Bundesrepublik DeutschlandThanks. Lotje (talk) 14:15, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

I changed the description of the depicted people in both files and corrected the description in the cropped file. Didn't change that in the source, since this is the one that has to be corrected at the Bundesarchiv too. Repaired the annotations and added templates for crop-information and information about source file. --Mirer (talk) 15:57, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

OK Vielen Dank für den Hinweis, der ziemlich peinliche Fehler ist in der Bundesarchiv-Bilddatenbank und auf Wikimedia Commons korrigiert!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 14:07, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Das passt in der Beschreibung immer noch nicht. Da war auch noch ein Tippfehler drin, den ich korrigiert habe ("onn.-" nach "Bonn -"). Die Beschreibung der Personen habe ich nicht geändert, da dies ggf. bei euch dann auch noch korrigiert werden muss. --Mirer (talk) 16:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Ups, Sie haben völlig recht, die Reihenfolge stimmte nicht und ist nun korrigiert. Besten Dank für den erneuten Hinweis--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 21:50, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-80571-0001, Berlin, VdJ-Fotoausstellung "Der Tag begann".jpg

Hello, the description reads: ...die der Verband Deutscher Lournalisten (VDJ) am Freitag, den 17.2.1961,..., should be 'Deutscher Journalisten-Verband I guess. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 07:33, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Idem dito: Bundesarchiv Bild 183-80571-0002 and Bundesarchiv Bild 183-80571-0003 Lotje (talk) 07:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

No, Lotje, it’s correct, the text refers to the East German journalists’ association. See Verband der Journalisten der DDR, especially the section about history (“Geschichte”), and note that all three images you link above are from 1961. — Speravir – 19:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

OK You are both right: "Lournalisten" is wrong, "Verband der Journalisten" der DDR is correct - thank you very much for your advice, we have changed it already in our database www.bild.bundesarchiv.de and on Wikimedia Commons!--Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 22:03, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

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Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-557-1018-28A,_Tunesien,_Panzer_VI_(Tiger_I),_US-Fahrzeug.2.jpg ‎(556 × 414 pixels, file size: 63 KB)

(Insert) Servicelink: File:Bundesarchiv Bild 101I-557-1018-28A, Tunesien, Panzer VI (Tiger I), US-Fahrzeug.2.jpg — Speravir – 01:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

 This is a cropped version of a picture showing an American half track, towing a trailer, following a German Tiger 1 tank. The Bundesarchiv description incorrectly identifies the American half track as

US-Fahrzeug M3. The un-cropped Bundesarchiv description version correctly identifies the vehicle as US-Fahrzeug M2.

 To distinguish the M3 half track from the M2 half track, note that the ten-inch longer M3 body extends further beyond the tracks (and has no step) while the M2 body stops close to the end of the tracks.

https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/5391-1941-white-m2a1-half-track/

https://flyingheritage.org/Explore/The-Collection/United-States/White-M3A1-Half-Track%E2%80%9D-Personnel-Carrier.aspx https://flyingheritage.org/getattachment/45358fd2-9c9d-4774-9944-0ce49e8b2bb5/attachment.aspx

Regards, RumbleStrap — Preceding unsigned comment added by RumbleStrap (talk • contribs) 04:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

RumbleStrap What do you mean with “un-cropped Bundesarchiv description version”? Do you mean another file on Commons or on Bundesarchiv site? If so could you, please, reference it? (Cf. what I inserted in the beginning of this thread.) — Speravir – 01:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I will now intervene in a friendly manner . RumbleStrap wanted to express that the image description of this, from your linked image, is correct. But the image description of the original image is not correct. Therefore, the image description of the initial image is wrong - it should be "M3" instead of "M2". --Mosbatho (talk) 13:29, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Mosbatho, but you have it reversed. The photo shows an M2. I have updated the Caption, in English, to indicate this. The Archive Description, under the Summary section, incorrectly identifies it as an M3 half-track. This what I believe needs correction on the Bundesarchive site. I am new to Wiki Commons editing. I assume edits in Bundesarchiv propagate into the Commons? RumbleStrap — Preceding unsigned comment added by RumbleStrap (talk • contribs) 14:56, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

OK Thank you for your advice (and Speravir for the service-link ;-)), we have changed it already in our database www.bild.bundesarchiv.de and on Wikimedia Commons (on "https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-557-1018-28A,_Tunesien,_Panzer_VI_(Tiger_I),_US-Fahrzeug.jpg") --Bundesarchiv-B6 (talk) 15:42, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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