Category talk:Seals of Raymond IV of Toulouse

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Incorrect attribution

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According to the discussion below, these seals cannot be attributed to Raymond IV de Toulouse. Indeed, Raymond V de Toulouse seem to be the first one using occitan cross.

The 1st seal is attributed to Raymond VI de Toulouse. The second illustration come from "Nouveau traité de diplomatie" 1759, probably wrong.

Note that there are two system of numeration for Raymond : Raymond de St Gilles is Raymond IV or VI de Toulouse.

Therefore I suggest to remove this category.

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Naissance_des_armoiries?markasread=82315018&markasreadwiki=frwiki#Raymond_V_de_Toulouse

https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_D9UWAAAAQAAJ/page/234/mode/2up Chevalier.Perceval (talk) 09:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]