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Do the number at the top of the graph represent millions or percentages? or both? Needs to be more clear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.20.98.234 (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Missing countries

What about Brazil? We had a small role at the Europe Theater, during Italy's invasion (Montecastelo). Although this was a small contribution, I believe the Brazilian dead soldiers must be remembered and included in the chart. If this is the case, there must have at least a "Others" column, including all other countries that fought at the allied side.--66.9.88.34 (talk) 02:27, 18 December 2009 (UTC)Marcos

the missing countries are ether not included on the graph or includded under the catagory of "other" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Imawikinerd (talk • contribs) 15:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Where is the philippines? I know that there were hundred of thousand filipino people dies during WW2 in the Pacific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cybernaut mac (talk • contribs) 06:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Why does this graph not include Canada, Australia or New Zealand? Sixer Fixer (talk) 01:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

i agree with the above saying because it doesn't show canada, australia, or New Zealand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.90 (talk) 00:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Estonia lost 21 % of their population, I think that should be included too if there's already Latvia and Lithuania.

Also, the three countries were neutral. They shouldn't be added to the allies. And it is still wrong not to add the military deaths for these countries. They SHOULD NOT be added to the Red Army or the German Army. And the fact that many countries are missing...Why are people in bigger countries more important than in smaller countries??? Many countries that were in the middle of the war, should be on that chart. H2ppyme (talk) 09:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

The iamge scales should be adjusted, put a scale of percentages above the "12 million" etc. Mallerd (talk) 14:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

This should be removed from the WW2 page.

I'm inclined to agree. There are clearly some significant participants missing. Also, how did so many Indian civilians die? TastyCakes (talk) 04:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

WAZZ UP PEOPLE OF THE UNITED MEXICO???? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.90 (talk) 00:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

I never realised Australia & New Zealand didn't take part in WW2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.141.217 (talk) 12:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Flags

There is an inconsistency in flags in this image. If we are to have the flag for French Indo-china then we should have the flag for British India rather than the independent India. This oversight is doubly misleading because British India included modern Pakistan, Bangladesh and Burma. Yaris678 (talk) 13:12, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Agreed with Yaris678. nomi887 (talk) 09:48, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Prime minister Putin

As to the speech given yesterday by Putin in Westerplatte, Gdańsk, Poland, during celebration of 70th WW2 outbreak, while he said something like "half of the people killed in ww2 were soviets", well: just look at the graph and keep in mind that the big numbers are surely impressive, but what counts the most is the PERCENTAGE, as for it may be that 20 mln are dead but are only tiny % of a nations population, while 5 mln killed may constitute about 50% of a nations population, which means that almost half of ENTIRE NATION was killed. I just want you to know that. A Stick. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.12.91.242 (talk) 15:11, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

All very nice...

...but what are the sources? Fredmont (talk) 00:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Latvia and Lithuania

I don't think that either country belongs in the "Allied" section. The countries were neutral until the Soviet Union illegally occupied and annexed them in 1940, after which they cannot rightly be treated separately as countries. That they were unlawfully absorbed into the USSR is not grounds to treat them as "Allied". ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Concur; also Estonia. -Mardus /talk 23:29, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

India's flag

India's flag is wrong in this picture. It should be the "Star of India" flag of British India, not the flag of Republic of India (which did not exist at the time of the world war). 99.229.25.64 23:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

What about Estonia?

User Lothar von Richthofen is right about Latvia and Lithuania. But where have they forgotten Estonia to? The schematic had Latvia and Lithuania as allied nations (actually neutral), although they served under the German warmachine when the German forces pushed the Soviet forces out of them in 1941. In 1944 they were reincorporated by the USSR, canceling their status even as the German created "Ostland" puppet nation (Estonia was amongst them). Good that Latvia and Lithuania is mentioned though, but why isn't Estonia mentioned?

Estonia actually lost 33% of it's population before the war - sounds impossible, but it's true. Under the lost people, I counted:

 ·Children who weren't born in Estonia (were going to be born in Estonia, instead of a nation the kid was born in). 
 ·Evacuated people (to USSR in 1941).
 ·Deported people (to USSR in 1941).
 ·Evacuated people (to Germany in 1944).
 ·Killed Estonian soldiers/partisans (under Germany, USSR, Finland and their own forces).
 ·Killed civilians.
 ·People who fled to the western nations illegaly.
 ·Executed people by German and Soviet control (all ethnical groups, there were few Estonians who were actually executed).
 ·Soldiers and civilians who were just plainly lost/erased from and never found again.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.130.213.13 (talk) 10:49, 4 May 2013 (UTC) 

The blue line only counts the war dead relative to the population, not the total reduction in population size. The number of people killed does not accurately reflect population loss, as population size is also affected by displacement (evacuations, deportations, refugees, changed territory size, etc.). The chart most likely reflects only an estimation based on recorded deaths. Record-keeping and statistics did exist, even 78 years ago.

• The children that weren't born yet do not count;
• The deported (of the 1941 deportation) were not all killed and did not all die, as many of them survived and later returned, so the total number of deportees does not count;
• Most of the evacuated survived;
• The killed Estonian soldiers/Forest Brothers do count, but within the timespan of active hostilities (1940–1945);
• The killed civilians do count;
• People who fled, had every reason to flee from death/persecution, but as most of them survived, then the total number of that group does not count. Questioning the legality of escape/fleeing is irrelevant.
• The non-Estonians, and also the people not native to Estonia who were killed by Nazi German and Soviet forces in Estonia during the war, do count.

-Mardus /talk 23:27, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Burma

Is Burma being counted as part of India for the purposes of this graph? If not, how are Indian civilian causalities so high when there was no major fighting there? --The Vital One (talk) 14:59, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

I have taken another look at the graphic and see that Burma is listed separately. --The Vital One (talk) 15:01, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

To further answer my own questions, the Bengal famine must be responsible. --The Vital One (talk) 21:23, 14 October 2018 (UTC)