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Zone limits in the 7th to 9th centuries should not conform to current boundaries

The factual accuracy of this map or the file name is disputed. Reason: Zone limits in the 7th to 9th century should not conform to current boundaries. For example, between the Danube and the Dniepr the Slavs were present in the entire area of ​​domination of the Avars and the Khazars: Slavs cohabited there with the Avars, Vlachs, Bulgarians and Khazars. Albanians were also present in Kosovo, West-Macedonia and Epirus.

Claude Zygiel (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Missing Avars from today's western Hungary and eastern Austria, Hungarians also missing

Hello! I have some remarks — Preceding unsigned comment added by OrionNimrod (talk • contribs) 21:55, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Archeologists found many Avar graves around Vienna and everywhere in the Carpathian Basin https://vias.univie.ac.at/en/research/archaeology-of-buildings/projects/the-avar-burial-ground-of-frohsdorf/avar-burial-ground/ https://www.researchgate.net/figure/e-map-of-the-Late-Avar-Period-cemeteries-with-position-of-sites-mentioned-in-the-text_fig1_349027556 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Anita-Papesa/publication/349027556/figure/fig1/AS:987384120352770@1612422127828/e-map-of-the-Late-Avar-Period-cemeteries-with-position-of-sites-mentioned-in-the-text.png

Black: Avar archeological sites Dotted line: Area of Avar settlements Dashed line: Area of Avar supremacy Red: Hungarian cemeteries (10-11th century) https://tti.abtk.hu/media/com_edocman/document/03%20k%C3%A9s%C3%B6%20avar%20%C3%A9s%20korai%20magyar%20lel%C3%B6helyek%20-%20t%C3%A9rk%C3%A9p.jpg

The Avars collected their treasures, valuables, and animals in a guarding place surrounded by ramparts, and the old settlement of Vienna was such a place based on the finds. The Avar historical sources mention that the area of today's Vienna Forest was known as Avar Hill at the time. The number of Avar finds is growing in the central part of Vienna, where the archeologists already found many Avar cemeteries. In southern Hungary, the city of Pécs is also uniquely rich in Avar tombs, etc

It is relevant to note that none of the Hungarian medieval sources know about Avars, probably because they were not distinguished from the Huns as many foreign medieval sources also identified Avars with Huns, for example, the Avars who were Christianized and became tax-payer vassals of the Eastern Frankish Empire were called as Huns in 871.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversio_Bagoariorum_et_Carantanorum Conversio Bagoariorum et Carantanorum (871) called the Avars as Huns, who are Christians and live in Pannonia. "Actenus praenotatum est, qualiter Bawari facti sunt christiani seu numerus episcoporum et abbatum conscriptus in sede Iuvavensi. Nunc adiciendum est, qualiter Sclavi, qui dicuntur Quarantani, et confines eorumfide sancta instructi christianique effecti sunt, seu quomodo Huni Romanos et Gothos atque Gepidos de inferiori Pannonia expulerunt et illam possederunt regionem, quousque Franci ac Bawari cum Quarantanis continuis ajfligendo bellis eos superaverunt. Eos autem, qui oboediebant fidei et baptismum sunt consecuti, tributarios fecerunt regum et terram, quam possident residui, adhuc pro tributo retinent regis usque in hodiernum diem."

"So far it has been recorded how the Bavarians became Christians, and the list of the bishops and abbots of the Salzburg Archbishopric has been compiled. Now it must be added how the Slavs, who are also called Carantans and their neighbours received teaching in the Holy Faith and how they became Christians, and the Huns drove out the Romans, the Goths and the Gepids from Pannonia Inferior, and held it until the Franks and the Bavarians, together with the Carantans, harassing them in continuous warfare finally defeated them. Those who took up their religion and accepted Christianity the kings made their tax-payers and by the tax payed to the king they are to the present day entitled to hold the land they inhabit."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annales_Alamannici Annales Alamannici/Annales Einsidlensis "863. Gens Hunorum Christianitatis nomen aggressa est."/"863. Gens Hunorum Christianitatis nomen aggressa est." = "863. The people of the Huns accepted the Christianity"

Some maps: https://c8.alamy.com/compes/2atbm2a/un-mapa-de-libros-escolares-britanico-de-1910-que-muestra-europa-alrededor-del-800-dc-2atbm2a.jpg https://external-preview.redd.it/xuhOM20HGtWZleyJmkJOlPHQgTv-ukGl3uJAA1BsuB4.jpg?auto=webp&s=750bd0933f19676e7c262237615588a8c1cb7e68 https://external-preview.redd.it/6ZeznlZyEcANqhYiXQ0vHHmgyTux-DNiAjKp2k6KFqg.png?auto=webp&s=81a9a73b5b8ce1340cfb1217befa5067cba895d2

The Hungarians also missing from the map, they were east of the Carpathian Basin in the 9th century

In 862, Prince Rastislav of Moravia rebelled against the Franks, and after hiring Magyar troops, won his independence. In 862, Archbishop Hincmar of Reims records the campaign of unknown enemies called "Ungri", giving the first mention of the Hungarians in Western Europe. In 881, the Hungarian forces fought together with the Kabars in the Vienna Basin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OrionNimrod (talk • contribs) 21:54, 22 August 2022 (UTC)