File talk:Serbia - 10th Century - De Administrando Imperio.png

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Please leave suggestions for modifications to this image here and I will recreate it from the original layers. Avoid modifying and reposting the image itself. You might perhaps make an edit to it and then email it to me if that's the easiest way of making your suggestions clear.

This is intended to be an unencumberd version of this image in Wikipedia. (After creating this version my attention was drawn to its extensive talk page – I'm not sure I follow all the arguments there.) If in the end we end up with an image that accurately depicts history as currently understood, and it ends up being at odds with Constantine's or Toynbee's understanding, we may need to rename this image.

After reviewing the original, I now believe that the "Dannoni" label should be "Pannonia", and that the shading for the area of Serbia should extend to the coast. Those will be my first changes (unless you convince me otherwise.)

-- Kbh3rd 15:46, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)


The factual accuracy of this map is disputed. See talk page on English Wikipedia.

Large parts of medieval Croatia and Bosnia are incorrectly presented as parts of Greater Serbia. In 10th century Rascia was the only Serbian state. --¨¨¨¨

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Original research & synthesis map, obviously based on user Pannonian's idea/file (Serb lands in the 9th century). It has nothing to do with the description of the Serbian and Croatian borders in the De Administrando Imperio as well as references. It is nothing alike the map by cited Arnold Toynbee - Constantine Porphyrogenitus And His World Compressed ([1]). Another candidate for deletion request. Miki Filigranski (talk) 23:17, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Aleksandar J. Vukosavljević's is a Greater Serbian propagandist and amateur historian mainly active on a forum which 2004 source wasn't ever officially published ([2]!). Interestingly, the map ([3]) shown in his source is identical to this one (!), but also has identical borders to user Pannonian's map, evidently being a heavy inspiration. The source is a tedious opinion piece promoting a fringe thesis without clear conclusion. It shouldn't be used at all as a reliable source for the borders described in DAI.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 23:40, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]