File talk:Saint Ilya Muromets.jpg
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The original image was put both to Picasa & Flikr. Picasa is preferred in this very case but unfortunately the contributor was not familiar with UploadForm and chose "From Flikr". Sorry for this mistake. B7elijah (talk) 20:27, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
- Hi! Per PD-art a license for the photo is not necessarily needed. But: The question is: who made the artwork (painter) and/or how old is it? Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 20:19, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- The painter is K.Seleznev's wife. K. Seleznev kindly provided the photo and wrote an OTRS letter. I believe he had all the rights to do that.
- >> a license for the photo is not necessarily needed << Thank you very much for interesting info, I'm not very familiar with Wiki license policy. B7elijah (talk) 19:35, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Okay, then we need a license/permission (please see COM:OTRS) from the painter. We do only need a license/permission from the photographer if there are 3D parts photographed. Just a reproduction of the (2D) painting is not regarded as being a action which can be copyrighted. However, a permission from the photographer (although he should not claim attribution (→ PD-self) since it probably not valid - as I explained) is more safe. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
- Please pardon me for some stupidity((. Please just to ensure I've understand you in a right way. <<then we need a license/permission (please see COM:OTRS) from the painter>>. Does it mean I have to contact the painter and ask for a similar OTRS letter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by B7elijah (talk • contribs) 2011-09-11T10:49:26 (UTC)
- Yes, if the painting is not public domain (e.g. because the painter is dead more than 70 years) we need to get a permission (a release under a free license from the painter). Details of this process are on COM:OTRS. If we do not have a permission a photo of a painting is a DW and has to be deleted.
- By the way: you're not stupid - instead you're clever because you ask if you are not sure. :) Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 00:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- Please pardon me for some stupidity((. Please just to ensure I've understand you in a right way. <<then we need a license/permission (please see COM:OTRS) from the painter>>. Does it mean I have to contact the painter and ask for a similar OTRS letter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by B7elijah (talk • contribs) 2011-09-11T10:49:26 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Okay, then we need a license/permission (please see COM:OTRS) from the painter. We do only need a license/permission from the photographer if there are 3D parts photographed. Just a reproduction of the (2D) painting is not regarded as being a action which can be copyrighted. However, a permission from the photographer (although he should not claim attribution (→ PD-self) since it probably not valid - as I explained) is more safe. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 01:01, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
