File talk:New England pine flag.svg

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Pine tree design?

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Naval ensign of Massachusetts.
Jack of New England

I do not believe that this has been brought up before, but why is the pine tree design so detailed in comparison to what seems to be commonly used outside Wikipedia? If you check out Google, almost all the designs for the NE flag are based on the naval ensign of Massachusetts (with the detailed design only appearing from this site). Shouldn't New England's flag be standardized to this simpler design? --NuclearVacuum (talk) 01:56, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what you're trying to prove with File:Naval Ensign of Massachusetts.svg and File:New England Jack Flag.svg, because neither one seems to have existed in the pre-1776 period... Anyway, pre-nineteenth-century flags were generally not very exactly standardized (except in some cases of centrally-issued military flags). AnonMoos (talk) 04:00, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am only stating that I find it very peculiar and confusing that Wikipedia is the only site to use such a detailed flag design for New England, while other sites use a less-detailed version (which happen to also be used in the flags I mentioned above). --NuclearVacuum (talk) 04:20, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It would nice if you had some historical documentation, instead of flags which are out-of-period (and in the second case, semi-bogus). Anyway, the tree in this image is the same as the one in File:An Appeal to Heaven Flag.svg, and comparable to File:Appealtoheaven.gif... AnonMoos (talk) 04:33, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was strictly referring to the flag as it is presently used as the de facto flag of the New England states, not the exact design used during the Revolutionary War. Is this particular file only to be used for historical purposes? If so, then I do apologize for wasting your time. --NuclearVacuum (talk) 04:49, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May have spoken too soon -- A flag similar to the second image above is shown engraved on the February 1776 powder horn of Major General Richard Gridley as a flag used at the siege of Louisbourg in 1745 (see So Proudly We Hail by William Rea Furlong and Byron McCandless, ISBN 0-87474-448-2, p. 78, 79). AnonMoos (talk) 14:23, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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