File talk:Dirty Linen Clothing - Ragdoll.jpg

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File:Dirty Linen Clothing - Ragdoll.jpg[edit]

This file was initially tagged by Emu as Speedy (SD) and the most recent rationale was: F10 Jmabel ! talk 19:19, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep For starters, it's ridiculous to characterize Infrogmation as a "non-contributor". But also it doesn't particularly appear to be a "personal photo".
It probably would be more useful if the people in it were identified, but it is still a useful image of an aspect of New Orleans culture. - Jmabel ! talk 19:21, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I happen to know the names of the 3 people in this photo. I didn't include those as the photo was more intended to illustrate the event than them personally. Left to right are French Quarter gallery owner, local professional artist, and musician/music educator - I suppose the artist (Michael Fedor) might be have the most notability, but I am not always good at judging how notable some such people are outside of New Orleans. Do you think it would be useful to add names to the description? -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 19:35, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment absolutely, if their names are known they would be useful. And "outside of New Orleans" isn't even necessarily the point: this image is, of course, a lot more likely to be of interest to someone already interested in New Orleans, just like File:Clark Humphrey 01.jpg (a picture I took of a Seattle journalist and historian) is probably mainly of interest to people interested in Seattle. That's fine. I wouldn't think we'd want dozens of pictures of someone at that level of notability, but absolutely having a few is within scope, and much more useful if they are individually identified. - Jmabel ! talk 21:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep (I am the photographer & uploader) "F10. Personal photos by non-contributors" - I am among the most active and longest term contributors to Commons, so "non-contributor" does not apply to me. "Personal photo" - it is part of a series illustrating the "Dirty Linen Night" event in the French Quarter, as description and categorization show. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 19:26, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The photo is unused and I find it hard to imagine a use case, to be honest. But I understand that this is a sensitive topic here. --Emu (talk) 19:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Emu: what do you mean here by a "use case"? - Jmabel ! talk 21:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      I mean COM:NOTUSED. Anyway, I found the photo by chance because I cleaned up SDC usage (now deleted d:Q111091467 instead of – maybe? – d:Q208421 was used), so I’m not really emotionally involved in this discussion. --Emu (talk) 22:19, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      @Emu: do remember that while use in a Wikipedia or other WMF project is normally sufficient to show that an image is in scope, it is by no means necessary. Probably less than 10% of photos on Commons will ever find their way into that particular sort of use. Most of what is in Commons' scope is not useful to Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 22:51, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
      Yes, Commons is not just for images used in Wikipedia articles, but also for images of in-scope topics giving a greater depth of illustration than is practical for articles which generally only have a small number of images. We can illustrate cultural events, historic districts, etc in more detail. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 14:44, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep This photo could easily be used in a blog or some other kind of article about New Orleans, and while Commons is mainly a repository of images that are plausibly useful on Wikimedia sites, it is also for the use of anyone else, online or offline. Notice how many media use photos that are marked with the name of the photographer and Wikimedia Commons for credits. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:25, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep consensus is clear, we don't need to keep hammering on it.- Jmabel ! talk

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