File talk:Blason de Gouttières.png
Identical with the lion of the Czech Republic
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Greetings. I am quite confused about the design of this lion, which is identical to the offcial state coats of arms of the Czech Republic. I have searched for this heraldic symbol of Gouttières on the internet to verify its appearance. Unfortunately, I only found it in one place, the website gouttieres63.fr. I would like to know if this is currently the official emblem of the Gouttières commune and if the government of the Czech Republic knows it, respectively if the Czech government knows that the French commune uses the same two-tailed lion which was designed by the heraldic artist Jiří Louda especially for Czechia and has been officially used from 1992. I don't know about any information that same work should be also for the French city Gouttières from 2023. Can someone explain this? This file was recently created in February 2023 and is part of a series of emblems inappropriately using the lion of the Czech Republic. We discussed to solve the same issue about here, here, here, here and here. This two-tailed lion is currently official emblem of Czechia which continues the tradition of the historical emblem of the Kingdom of Bohemia, the two tails of lion are not without reason, but it's related to the importance of the Kingdom of Bohemia. It's quite strange that the same sign is said to have a French commune. Why? How did it come about? It must be said that the Czech lion should be protected as a personal artwork and as a official national symbol of the Czech Republic and the Czech nation, not a free template that can be recolored or remade at will. Thanks. Dragovit (talk) 11:20, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
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- Hello.
- Primo : The lion is not the lion of Czechia (crowned, not this one).
- Secundo : I only used CC0 files. There's namy Free templates of this type right here : Category:SVG coat of arms elements - lions rampant. I used this one : Heraldic Lion (Two tailed) 05.svg. And I recommend you to read the Licence : Autorisation/Public Domain.
- Tertio : The Czechia lion dont have the monopole of the double-tailed. The reason is explained in the description : One for the Bourbon sire, and the second one for the Auxerre/Nevers counts. That's the story of the Town, nothing else.
- Quatro: Please stop to see Czech Lion everywhere.
- To finish. I don't really like to see all that's messages secretly posed on the pages without discuting with me first. I please you to stop to track all my changes and files one by one. This behavior is unbearable just like the pressure and the wrong tone you put in your messages. I notify an administrator because I'm very tired of all of this. Benoît Prieur (talk · contribs) --Combrian (talk) 17:23, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- Of course that the lion is Czech, because everything it contains was created by Jiří Louda in 1992 as a state symbol, not as a symbol of French commune, not even for medieval Armenia. Therefore I believe that the work should be protected like other emblems, signs, logos etc, that's all, what is there to be misunderstood? That has nothing to do with "I see the Czech lion everywhere in each two-tailed lion", it's absolutely false. The graphic design, shapes etc were created by Jíří Louda, you just changed the colors and that's all, you just created a very poor self-made thing which has nothing to do with the Gouttières or Cilician Armenia, because the heraldic traditions of these countries are different. For example, try repainting the black eagle of Germany to white and it will become the Polish eagle? It makes no sense. I'm sorry you're tired of it, but you should have thought about it before when you decided to use this emblem, it's not a relevant argument, only an attempt to not answer the questions in my post. Dragovit (talk) 07:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
