Commons:Valued image candidates/Heroin drug kit.jpg

Heroin paraphernalia.jpg

promoted

Image
Nominated by	Matthew T Rader (talk) on 2020-11-23 14:47 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Heroin paraphernalia
Used in	Global usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heroin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_exploration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse
Reason	This image sums up substance abuse better than any other image in that category. It depicts representations of three popular substances that are abused by people in the form of addictions: alcohol, tobacco, heroin and/or meth. This image was not set up, this kit was found in an abandoned home and is an authentic representation of the types of paraphernalia used by substance abusers. -- Matthew T Rader (talk)
Review (criteria)	Comment I don't think broad concepts like "substance abuse" can have a "best in scope" photo. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)  Comment Oh okay, I see what you mean, maybe I misunderstood some of the limitations of valued image scopes. I wonder if there is another scope more appropriate you could suggest. Matthew T Rader (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2020 (UTC)  Comment I'm not sure, but the other thing to consider is that this photo shows objects, not abuse. So what does it show, and is it best in scope in showing that? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:22, 25 November 2020 (UTC)  Comment That makes sense, I updated the category to one that better represents what is in the photo.  Comment Great. Now, if you would please talk us through what makes this photo best in scope. I don't mean to be difficult; I'm just having trouble picking between that photo, File:Who needs a virtual world?.jpg, and I suppose someone could make an argument for the very grim File:Kolizej narkomanska meka.JPG (I suppose it's between the other two, though). -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:37, 25 November 2020 (UTC)  Comment I don't think you are being difficult. I appreciate your questions and challenging me. I thought this one was best because it's an authentic image of found heroin paraphernalia, not a set up image like File:Kolizej narkomanska meka.JPG, though I do agree it is a great image, I just think the authenticity of mine has a slight edge over it. Also, I think the unique details in the image like the scratched up spoon, cigarette butts and ashes, and the folder paper gives it more atmosphere and enhances the tragic story of addiction. And the other image, File:Who needs a virtual world?.jpg, also great, has too much other garbage in it, literally, which dilutes the ability to bring focus to the actual heroin paraphernalia. One quick request: Please sign your posts by typing 4 tildes (~) in a row at the end of each one. Your arguments are good. I'll think about it. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2020 (UTC) Thank you and yes, I apologize for that, I forget to add it sometimes. I'll be better about that, thanks for the reminder --Matthew T Rader (talk) 19:00, 25 November 2020 (UTC)  Comment After thinking about it, I've decided that even though File:Who needs a virtual world?.jpg is not as sharp as the photo you nominated, the fact that all the objects are labeled makes it more valuable. But perhaps you'd like to label the objects in your photo? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:35, 26 November 2020 (UTC) That's cool they did that. I just added annotations also. --Matthew T Rader (talk) 19:24, 27 November 2020 (UTC)  Support Thanks. I'll support this photo as best in scope now. The labeling could be easier to read, if you'd like to work further on it on your own time. Thanks a lot for taking the photo, nominating it and working with me. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:12, 27 November 2020 (UTC) Thank you very much, I will work on it a bit more. I really appreciate the time you dedicate to Wikimedia Commons! --Matthew T Rader (talk) 16:57, 28 November 2020 (UTC) Result: 1 support, 0 oppose => promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2020 (UTC)