Commons:Valued image candidates/French Marigold -- October Birthday Flower -- Tagetes patula.jpg

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French Marigold -- October Birthday Flower -- Tagetes patula.jpg

promoted
Image
Nominated by Jim Evans (talk) on 2021-03-09 23:12 (UTC)
Scope Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope:
Tagetes patula 'Sparkler' (French Marigold) - blossom
Used in Global usage
Review
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 Comment This is really a Tagetes patula, but for some reason a Tagetes patula category is forbidden on Commons so everyone uses Tagetes erecta?? -- Jim Evans (talk) 00:02, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment You can't misidentify it, and you can create a new category. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:57, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Changed. We'll see how this goes -- Jim Evans (talk) 12:50, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Question And where are the other photos in scope? At the previous link? Please post it here. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment My original Cagegory/Scope is where everyone else puts Tagetes patula, mixed with Tagetes erecta.(Category:Close-ups of Tagetes erecta flowers) -- Jim Evans (talk) 21:16, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose It is not the reference species but a cultivar. Each cutitvar has a different appearance. You have to find the name; there are some leads on the article in English, but the Web is full of horticultural catalogs ... The name of the category and the scope pretend to confusion: It is a close-up of the plant which shows the flower, it is not a close-up of the flower which will only show part ...--Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:33, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
the close-up gives rise to confusion depending on the language, but this is only a remark; the root of the problem is toxinomy. --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 11:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment -Ikan Kekek- You can look here Category:Tagetes erecta (cultivars) and here Category:Close-ups of Tagetes erecta flowers but I didn't see any that looked like they were this Cultivar. -- Jim Evans (talk) 16:37, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comments:
(1) For the record, no saturation was added to any of the images Mr. Sharp asserted were over saturated
(2) Now let's discuss VI criteria. When I began here the rules said images were not supposed to be of highest quality, certainly not to be judged using QI standards. Here are some excerpts from the VI criteria:
a) . . . most valuable does not necessarily imply the best technical quality.
b) Valued images are less about perfect technical quality and more about your ingenuity in finding good and valuable subjects which matter
c) Requirement Reasonable sharpness, lighting, composition, and angle of view
d) For photographs, the quality achievable using the built-in camera in a modern mobile phone should normally be good enough. The technical standard required should be achievable by any photographer who has taken care over the image
(3) VI is about finding the most representative image. Where is the better image?
Result: 2 support, 1 oppose =>
promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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