Commons:Valued image candidates/Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg

Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg

declined

Image
Nominated by	Yann (talk) on 2019-04-02 10:33 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Henry David Thoreau, portrait photograph
Used in	Global usage
Review (criteria)	@Ikan Kekek: Here is another alternative. Yann (talk) 10:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC) Thanks.  Oppose - The white balance of the jacket has an orange shift in this one. Also, the two alternatives to the current VI both improperly change the subject's orientation as shown in the original, because someone thinks it's good for subjects to always be in conventional, symmetrical poses. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:34, 2 April 2019 (UTC) I think your vote (and of some others) are not quite consistent. In the FP nomination, the grayscale image was said that it lacks the yellow tone of the original. So now, this one is too yellow?... BTW, I checked on 2 different monitors, and the jacket is not orange or yellow for me. However, in the version you supports, the face and the shirt look yellowish to me. Regards, Yann (talk) 19:50, 2 April 2019 (UTC) That's because the entire photo is sepia-toned. Though perhaps I'm missing something. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:26, 2 April 2019 (UTCthe ) In this one, the colors are harmonious. In File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg, the jacket is darker, but everything else is yellowish. And it needs a complete restoration, which is done here. Regards, Yann (talk) 22:04, 2 April 2019 (UTC) But his pose is altered. Why is that OK? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC) The original is tilted. Regards, Yann (talk) 09:07, 3 April 2019 (UTC) If a historic picture is tilted, I don't think it's acceptable to "correct" that as part of a restoration. I have to believe the tilt was intentional. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:22, 3 April 2019 (UTC) IMO, this is pure speculation. If it were a picture of a building, a tilted picture wouldn't be accepted. Why in this case? Regards, Yann (talk) 10:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC) You wouldn't accept a tilt of a building in a 19th-century photo? I would. I feel like what you're doing is akin to deciding Beethoven couldn't have meant to use a particular dissonance. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:06, 3 April 2019 (UTC) @Ikan Kekek: I am not talking about the architect's work, but about the reproduction. Regards, Yann (talk) 17:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC) I'm saying that if a historic photo is tilted, we can't assume that's unintentional. If the problem is that the reproduction of the photo is poor, that's something else. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:42, 5 April 2019 (UTC) Scores: 1. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: -3 2. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: (current VI within same scope) <-- 3. Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: -1 => File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - greyscale - straightened.jpg: Declined. File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored.jpg: Former VI, no change. <-- File:Benjamin D. Maxham - Henry David Thoreau - Restored - sepia - straightened.jpg: Declined. --Yann (talk) 09:52, 22 April 2019 (UTC)