Commons:Valued image candidates/2016R1535 - Київ.jpg

2016R1535 - Київ.jpg

promoted

Image
Nominated by	Мирослав Видрак (talk) on 2016-10-24 11:13 (UTC)
Scope	Nominated as the most valued image on Commons within the scope: Oldest part of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev - SE view from belfry
Used in	Global usage
Review (criteria)	Comment, I think the scope is too wide as only part of the cathedral is pictured. DeFacto (talk). 06:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment On this photo I wanted to show the oldest part of cathedral, but I cann't create such category, because meaning "old part" is conditional --Мирослав Видрак (talk) 07:11, 26 October 2016 (UTC) It doesn't have to have a new category, just a more specific description. Something like "Original Nth-century chapel on the north/south/east/west side of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev" ("{{c|Saint_Sophia_Cathedral_in_Kiev|Original Nth-century chapel on the north/south/east/west side of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev}}"), or whatever it is. DeFacto (talk). 06:31, 27 October 2016 (UTC) Thanks for explanation. I decided to create a new category "view from belfry". P.S. It's oldest part of cathedral, not chapel. --Мирослав Видрак (talk) 08:40, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment, can we make it more concise? The oldest part of the cathedral is the object, so it could be: "Oldest part of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev - SE view from belfry" ({{c|Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kiev - view from bell tower|Oldest part of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev - SE view from belfry}}). DeFacto (talk). 17:50, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment No I can not make it more concise, because meaning "old part" is conditional. It is the bricks that we can see.--Мирослав Видрак (talk) 18:50, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment I think my suggested scope means the same as yours but is shorter (more concise). Please explain in more detail why you disagree. DeFacto (talk). 18:59, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment Because I am not a historian. And I cann't say where oldest part ends and where old part begins. It's very conditional. I don't want to create a conditional category. --Мирослав Видрак (talk) 19:38, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment I think we misunderstand each other. There is no category change (no new category, no renamed category) required. Just a shorter description applied to the existing category for the image scope. Like this: {{c|Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kiev - view from bell tower|Oldest part of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev - SE view from belfry}} - where the category is "Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kiev - view from bell tower" and the description is the more specific "Oldest part of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev - SE view from belfry" to narrow the scope within the category. Does that make sense? DeFacto (talk). 19:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Comment I had changed a scope to : {{c|Saint Sophia Cathedral in Kiev - view from bell tower|Oldest part of Saint Sophia Cathedral, Kiev - SE view from belfry}} --Мирослав Видрак (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2016 (UTC)  Support, best in scope (I removed the redundant part of the scope description). DeFacto (talk). 20:15, 27 October 2016 (UTC) Result: 1 support, 0 oppose => promoted. Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 06:28, 29 October 2016 (UTC)