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- Info I'm currently at the 2024 Sundance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, and was fortunate to get an official press accreditation for Wikipedia. This shot was taken this morning at the press line for the movie Layla. (c/u/n) by --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 06:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 06:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support Well composed, appealing portrait shot. Nice that you had the opportunity to take photos at the film festival. -- Radomianin (talk) 07:07, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Quality seems good, but horizontal framing bothers me, especially because the top of the head is cut off. So we pay more attention to the distracting "ACUR" of the background than to the face. And I wonder "is it a wanted composition? Why the photographer didn't rotate the camera 90 degrees? -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- That's how are professional portraits. Yann (talk) 08:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Are they? Then I'm not a fan of this professional style :-) sorry -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- And apparently not, Yann, a vast majority of similar pictures are not cropped, and about 50% of them are taken vertically. Also main categories are all missing in this series (see Commons:Image guidelines#Image page requirements) -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:42, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- By the way, many "professional portraits" would simply not pass at FPC, I'm afraid (source) -- Basile Morin (talk) 08:53, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Basile, you might know how much I appreciate your work, but let me add a few words here: this community has developed quality criteria that are based on a certain style that can be applied to landscape/church interior/wildlife/historic monuments photos. It seems to me that quite a few people here are not as familiar with other genres of photography. E.g. street photography, where strong black-and-white contrasts and grain/noise are deemed desirable. Or modern food photography, where people use a shallow depth of field and crop parts of the plates off. As some strong voices in our community have judged e.g. food photographs based on bird photography quality criteria in the past, those nominations have failed and the uploaders have left Commons and have never been seen again. Let's not make that same mistake again.
- When you're at a press line like the one that I am registered for at Sundance here, you're in a confined space and the communications people from the event ensure that common journalistic rules for press events are being followed. One of them is that you're not allowed to shoot actors/producers/etc. in a way that would cut the printed backgroud out. You're only allowed to photograph people in front of that printed background and if you don't comply, you might not ever get accredited again. To my knowledge, I'm the first ever Wikipedia photographer at Sundance with an official press pass. I paid for this trip myself (which wasn't insignificant) and I don't want this to get ruined by taking shots that violate the rules I agreed with when picking up my press pass.
- If the community here thinks that photos of press line events at film festivals or other places are generally not eligible as Featured Pictures, I could accept that. But please don't create standards here that will prevent press line photographers from ever nominating images here, if that's not what you're intending to do. Best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 16:20, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- My opinion on this matter is totally different. It would have been a pleasure to discuss these points by bringing counterpoints, but apparently you withdrew quickly to "keep nominating bird photos..." So that's your choice -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- I respect your choices even if you don’t respect mine. I don‘t think anything is wrong with me focusing on bird photography, in particular in this setting. —Frank Schulenburg (talk) 23:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- What??! I don't respect your choice? Preferring a vertical framing for a facial portrait is disrespect? -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Basile, you seemed to make fun of my choice to nominate bird photos here from now on. I seriously don‘t want to argue with you here. Please, —Frank Schulenburg (talk) 02:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- You're an adult. Best regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- As are you. That response seems disrespectful. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 04:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- We're adults, yes. And my review is just my 2 cents and 3 minutes time for one candidature among a big batch. No drama at all. Keep cool happy relax yeah. There are other reviewers here too with their own subjective views. You can compare. Frank's birds are awesome. No no, this is not ironic. Yes yes, this is my honest opinion. Have fun now. Thank you -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- As are you. That response seems disrespectful. - Chris.sherlock2 (talk) 04:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- You're an adult. Best regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:22, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- Basile, you seemed to make fun of my choice to nominate bird photos here from now on. I seriously don‘t want to argue with you here. Please, —Frank Schulenburg (talk) 02:10, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- What??! I don't respect your choice? Preferring a vertical framing for a facial portrait is disrespect? -- Basile Morin (talk) 01:35, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
- I respect your choices even if you don’t respect mine. I don‘t think anything is wrong with me focusing on bird photography, in particular in this setting. —Frank Schulenburg (talk) 23:31, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose The head is cropped intentionally, but this 'style' is not for me; nor the landscape layout; nor the dandruff. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:29, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Useful, but not that special for FP, the inscriptions are distracting. Vertical orientation for a portrait I would prefer anyway. --A.Savin 21:21, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 21:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)