Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Solar Glory with helicopter shadow around Mauna Loa.jpg

File:Solar Glory with helicopter shadow around Mauna Loa.jpg

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•  Info everything by Mbz1 -- Mbz1 (talk) 02:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Info The image of course was taken from the very same helicopter the shadow of which is seen inside w:solar glory at the image.
•  Support -- Mbz1 (talk) 02:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Strong Support Excellent image, with high EV. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 04:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Yann (talk) 05:37, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Kooritza (talk) 05:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support --Archaeodontosaurus (talk) 07:35, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support -- VS (talk) 09:24, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Strange! --Citron (talk) 10:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support --Cayambe (talk) 10:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose again. I don't see the featured thing in this picture. There's a lot of fog and some landscape, and just a very small shadow (just because of the file decription I noticed that that's a helicopter) with the effect trappings. I don't understand why you don't use a better framing to show the effect. The EV is thus minor and the composition suspect. Sorry --kaʁstn Disk/Cat 13:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
• Well, Dr. Tony Phillips, who runs Spaceweather.com (NASA site) has a slightly different opinion. He believes that "Each sighting is a puzzle--all the more reason to seek them out.". I doubt you ever saw a solar glory from the air, or even an image of one. This image is good because it shows not only glory and the fog (without fog or clouds there could not be glory), but also "some landscape" that btw is Mauna Loa the is the largest volcano on Earth in terms of volume. The image was taken from a very shaky helicopter. Effect lasted only less than a minute because there was not so much fog. To take the image I needed to turn slightly backward. It was one hard to to take image. One Russian poet said: "It is not scary to loose ability to surprise, it is much scarier to loose ability to get surprised. --Mbz1 (talk) 14:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support agree with the russian poet. I've never seen such an image, I think it is very strange and interesting, and has a very high educational value. The photographer was very lucky to be there with her camera, and deserves congratulations for having the idea of taking this picture, and the possibility and potential to do it. But as said another anonymous poet, concerning soccer in Europe : "only good goalkeepers are lucky..."--Jebulon (talk) 15:51, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose -- I agree with Carschten. This is most certainly a valuable image but not a featured picture. Alvesgaspar (talk) 15:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose Per Alvesgaspar and Carschten. EV alone doesn't set a picture apart as Featured for me. LeavXC (talk) 16:26, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
  • No, but EV plus extremely high quality does! --The High Fin Sperm Whale 18:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
    • If that is all a picture needs to be featured, then Featured pictures must not be the best pictures on the Commons after all, IMO. If this picture had better composition, then I'd support it. Per Carschten, better framing could be used to show the effect (the "solar glory" only takes up about 5% of the frame). The remaining parts of the picture that are not part of the sun glory, appears to be some clouds and a very obscure representation of Mauna Loa. Sorry. LeavXC (talk) 22:21, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

      There is also different colors lava flow on the image. --Mbz1 (talk) 05:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

•  Oppose Its interesting, valuable, but quality not for FP.--Mile (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Comment composition doesn't work for me either, but is an interesting image. Given that it has already been cropped (and thus has non-standard proportions) I wonder if a better crop (maybe portrait?) could be found which would improve it. --Elekhh (talk) 02:14, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support very rare --George Chernilevsky ^talk 06:45, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
  • how very ? --Elekhh (talk) 06:56, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

    Well from 32 images in the category at least 12 were taken by me. The effect is relatively rare, and one should know where and how to look for it. That shot from the helicopter, would not have been taken, if I specifically did not look for the effect. I took lots of flights during my travels around the world. I saw a good glory with a good shadow only 2 times. It is how rare it is. --Mbz1 (talk) 04:56, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

•  Oppose agree with Karsten+Alvesgaspar --AngMoKio (座谈) 20:02, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Beautiful. -- TFCforever (talk) 01:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose per Carschten and Alvesgaspar, sorry. --Avenue (talk) 15:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
•  Support EV --Tomascastelazo (talk) 17:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose -- I dont see anything. What is featured here? Mulazimoglu (talk) 18:53, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose After further thought, the composition is not FP for me. --Elekhh (talk) 20:35, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose Agree with Karsten and Alvesgaspar--Miguel Bugallo 20:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

 I could have asked (as I was asked, when I opposed some images) what is wrong with the image, why it cannot be FP, what is wrong with the composition, but I will not. I am not very interested in learning this out, and I guess I got enough information for the time being And I'd like to thank the ones, who supported the image, recognizing its great EV, rarity and lots of mitigating circumstances that prevented me from taken a better shot. It is a rare and good image because most images of a glory taken from the air will depict only clouds and the glory. This image leaves no doubt it was taken from an air. Of course w:Mauna Loa and different colors of lava flow add value to the image. I am sure you, who supported the images, will see your own glory one day because you bothered to learn more about phenomena, and you did not loose ability to get surprised. --Mbz1 (talk) 04:40, 7 December 2010 (UTC)