Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Saint Julian church in Cassagnes-Begonhes 12.jpg
File:Saint Julian church in Cassagnes-Begonhes 12.jpg[edit]
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Objects#Stained glass
Info all by Tournasol7 -- Tournasol7 (talk) 21:31, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Abstain -- Tournasol7 (talk) 21:31, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
Support - Excellent. If you can say anything more about the windows in your file description (e.g., when or roughly when they were made and installed), that would be great. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:37, 23 June 2019 (UTC)- support 👍 -- Eatcha (talk) 06:38, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Info Ikan Kekek; informations added. Tournasol7 (talk) 06:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support--Agnes Monkelbaan (talk) 07:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Oppose Way too much contrast and processing resulting in an image with no subtlety and burnt-out. Also no wow -- we don't feature every stained glass window and this is quite a plain stained glass window. There are better even within this church. For example see File:Cassagnes_vitrail_1.JPG and compare to your File:Saint Julian church in Cassagnes-Begonhes 15.jpg. The former is only 1.3MP but is a hugely superior image. Such windows are better photographed on a dull-weather day, and please make only modest changes with those Lightroom sliders. An HDR technique is often required for best results with windows. I see here you've set Contrast +15; Highlights -66; Shadows -100; Whites +84; Blacks -82; Clarity +48. Those are ridiculous values and the effect is obvious. -- Colin (talk) 07:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)- Support.--Vulphere 05:29, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose partly per Colin --Uoaei1 (talk) 06:45, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Llez (talk) 13:09, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Stepro (talk) 14:26, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Famberhorst (talk) 15:50, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
- @Ikan Kekek, Eatcha, Agnes Monkelbaan, Vulphere, and Llez: @Stepro and Famberhorst: I'm quite perplexed at the degree of support for this image. Category:Stained-glass windows contains perhaps hundreds of thousands of images and we are to find the very best on Commons. Compare Commons:Featured pictures/Objects#Stained glass. Look at File:Iglesia de San Bartolomé de Tirajana - Gran Canaria - Windows.jpg or File:Stained-glass Antwerp 4.jpg or my own File:St Matthew's Church - Paisley - Stained Glass Window.jpg. This single small window is not grand or part of a set-photo and most of it consists of a pale ornamental design rather than illustrations. I don't think, of all the hundreds of thousands of such windows in the world, this single frame has wow. But more so, it is frankly a terrible rendering of the window. I don't have a direct comparison but we can compare two other windows from the church, both taken and processed similarly by Tournasol7 with others:
The first of each pair are smaller images but they are hugely superior. In second of each pair, the red is burnt out to orange. The two shades of blue background are separated by extreme contrast such that the lighter shade is white. The delicate facial features are lost in a heavy handed rendering that looks jaundiced instead of skintone. Joseph's tunic changes from fawn brown to gold. The subtle grey geometric artwork in the bottom half of the second pair is rendered with a green tint, and the yellow hoops burnt out to white in places. All the images in the set by Tournasol7 have the same extreme processing that has exaggerated the saturation, contrast and completely blown the bright colours and tones, while darkening any shades to total black. I would really appreciate if those who supported could take a second look, compare against our best, consider the high technical standard required, our requirement for the subject to have wow. If you still think it is an FP, would dearly like to know why. -- Colin (talk) 21:11, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination --Tournasol7 (talk) 21:36, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
