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File:Raising a flag over the Reichstag.jpg, featured[edit]
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- Gallery: Commons:Featured pictures/Historical#1940-1949
- Info created by Yevgeny Khaldei - uploaded by Yann - nominated by TheFreeWorld -- TheFreeWorld
- Support -- TheFreeWorld (talk) 23:50, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
Support Very striking historical photo. This was a newspaper photo, right? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)- Oppose Tremendously grainy, poor focus and low depth of field. I don't mind the tilt, but the quality is not up to the FP standards for this period, even for action shots. Compare with 1, 2 or 3, for example.
- Destructive digital processing with excessive contrasts, harsh blacks and whites and a significant loss of nuances in the grays. See the difference with the original, or these online versions. Question Where is the source offering this resolution? -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:19, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Thanks. The original is better, so I've changed my vote to opposing. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per both of your remarks. --SHB2000 (talk) 08:02, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Thanks. The original is better, so I've changed my vote to opposing. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I didn't edit this file, only uploaded as it was. Yann (talk) 09:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment (1) Agree with Basile’s assessment of the digital processing of the current upload. Shouldn’t we revert this file to the original version uploaded by Yann? It’s not perfect, but much better than this coarse editing. (2) Could we please list Adam’s restauration File:Raising a flag over the Reichstag - Restoration.jpg as an alternative here? Best, --Aristeas (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done. I reverted this, and added Adam’s restauration as alternative. Yann (talk) 22:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, Yann! Weak support for this (original) version, as I prefer the restored one. --Aristeas (talk) 08:16, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Done. I reverted this, and added Adam’s restauration as alternative. Yann (talk) 22:29, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment This unrestored image would be good enough to feature, in my opinion, if we didn't have the restored alternative. If others decide they prefer this version, I'll cross out my opposing vote, but I do favor the restoration. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Support Better. Yann (talk) 22:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Thi (talk) 23:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support The restoration improved the photo, as usual. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Improved, thank you, Adam. --Aristeas (talk) 08:16, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Mile (talk) 09:30, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support ★ 09:39, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support --Wilfredor (talk) 00:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support JukoFF (talk) 14:02, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Maybe VI but not FP. --Milseburg (talk) 19:17, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Why? ★ 12:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Historical velue but not an outstanding technical quality. Milseburg (talk) 21:26, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Why? ★ 12:27, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 23:58, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support Cmao20 (talk) 01:47, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
- Neutral Agree with Milseburg. Compare with 1, 2 or 3, for similar action shots of the same period. Very grainy. On the other way, this version is much better than the previous one nominated above (with high contrasts before the update). There may be a scratch remaining on the paper to the right of the base of the foreground column -- Basile Morin (talk) 03:48, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- Comment regarding the technical quality. I understand your reservations, but please consider also (a) the turbulent situation in which this photo was taken and (b) the limits of the camera used for this shot. Yevgeny Khaldei probably used one of the reporter cameras of that time, similar to the one you see him holding in the photo in the Wikipedia article. These were quite simple cameras, built more for robustness than for image quality. American war reporters used similar models, and some years ago I had the opportunity to play a bit with a well-preserved original American reporter camera from WW II times. It was really very difficult to take decent shots with it, much more difficult than with later film cameras (or with some old Leicas – these are more precise, too). The lens was rather simple (i.e. full of optical aberrations of any kind), it was almost impossible to focus precisely, etc. In the end I can only admire that people took decent photos which such clumsy cameras. Now I doubt that Russian war reporter cameras were much better than that American camera. Considering this I perceive the quality of this and similar photos rather leniently. --Aristeas (talk) 18:34, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Why different from other pictures taken in the same conditions, at the same period?
- FP should be evaluated on their quality, in addition to the wow factor. There are too many striking historical images to promote them all, in my opinion -- Basile Morin (talk) 22:48, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Support.--Vulcan❯❯❯Sphere! 06:54, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
Confirmed results:
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Historical#1940-1949
The chosen alternative is: File:Raising a flag over the Reichstag - Restoration.jpg