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Painted door (Mermaid). Funchal, Madeira
I'll certainly not stop sharing my useful comments on this open platform. This mailbox is amazing, and surprisingly nobody has noticed it above, before me. Is it such a gorgeous optical illusion that everybody missed this important detail? :And what else could have been invented by the imaginative artist, instead of this clever swing, to take advantage of this special feature and constraint in the door? We call this Ougrapo (sort of "graphic design under constraints"), or in French Ouvroir de peinture potentielle.
Honi soit qui mal y pense :-)
If it's not a letterbox, please explain. Perhaps my mind should not go to the mail carrier? Or is it the painting which should be censored? -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I belief I am not the only one associating something sexual when they read about a "postman" (not mail carrier!) "enjoy[ing] slipping the mail" in. If you truly want your comments to be useful, try to avoid this kind of association. Your comment of "Honi soit qui mal y pense" shows that you perfectly understand what is bothering me. Trying to derail the conversation with your opening questions and trying to make it about a different behaviour of yours, which was fully acceptable and normal, is way off the point.
Nothing is wrong with the painting itself. It is your comment that is not appropriate. Kritzolina (talk) 10:12, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Postman" is the standard word for mail carrier, right? postwoman is rare. Should we change the dictionary words in this situation?
This mail box is a great example of trompe-l'œil. Do we agree on that?
Similarly the walkers may enjoy climbing up these escalators and the drivers (males or females) parking their cars on this parking. There's nothing wrong in my comment. I'm commenting on what I have under the eyes. I'm not the artist, but neither stupid nor hypocritical to pretend not to understand what is obvious -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:28, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Please Basile, just stop it. You made a sexually inappropriate comment that has no place on a photo forum. Now you are just trying to muddy the waters with word-fencing instead of simply removing the comment and apologize. --Cart (talk) 10:41, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
No, I think postwomen may enjoy slipping the mail into this cleverly recycled mailbox 📨 too, and that's why a pictogram of a letter has been delicately chosen to punctuate my comment, not a key nor an eggplant :-) Regards -- Basile Morin (talk) 10:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I know that making veiled sexual comments is something of a French national sport, but could you please thy to restrain that need here on FPC. The gender of the person who delivers the mail is irrelevant. Thank you. --Cart (talk) 11:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's the right word from the dictionary, like fisherman or fireman. You can think what you want about French people and make generalities. Category "trompe-l'oeil" added -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Lectures people about everything in general and how to behave here, then proceeds with a free insult on Frenches. Revealing what this is actually all about. Colour me surprised. - Benh (talk) 08:44, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, sorry about that. That was a bad move on my part, but I too can get carried away when I'm frustrated. At least I can strike it and admit I did something wrong and learn from it. --Cart (talk) 11:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I believe you are an intelligent man, yes - so I have to believe you are playing stupid here. You know perfectly well why this comment upsets me, and why I would like you to alter or remove it. There is obviously no need to sexualize an image of a woman sitting on swing, even if it evokes sexual emotions and thoughts in your mind. You choose to try to ridicule me instead of acting with empathy and understanding. I will leave it at that. Kritzolina (talk) 10:55, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It's totally possible that a sexual intention was deliberate by the painter, I have no idea, and my only goal was to highlight the letterbox / swing. I love creativity on constraint. This is just creativity on constraint. Another artist would have imagined a circus, personally I would have imagined a dresser drawer, but well, it is an ass on a swing, well, that's life. Commons is not censored. Thanks for your comment -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:08, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The images and the descriptions of them are not censored on Commons, that's true, but semi-lewd comments while discussing the images are not acceptable. --Cart (talk) 11:13, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
How can you accuse me of talking about sex when I just commented about a letter and the person who is supposed to interact genuinely with this door? That's weird. I agree the painting is ambiguous, but that's not my artwork. I'm just reviewing on what the picture is evoking, and the reactions this painting may generate to others. If the postman dislikes, it's possible also, and I respect different feelings -- Basile Morin (talk) 11:25, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I said I would leave it in my last comment ... but ... really ?? Kritzolina (talk) 13:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Não entendo / Pas compris / No understand / 不明白
"Really" what? Here's a tunnel and here's a chest of drawers. Anything forbidden again? -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:55, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Famberhorst (talk) 16:21, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support. And my 2 cents: making FPC a welcoming and not hostile place for women should be considered an important goal, so if women are offended by a comment, it doesn't mean the person making the comment is bad or ill-intentioned, but the fact that a woman felt strongly enough to speak up about it means we should listen to her and try to take it into account in terms of future behavior, rather than doubling (tripling, etc.?) down. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:11, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for those 2 cents, Ikan. I have a bit higher thoughts about most men though. It's not just about being a non-hostile environment for women, I think most well-behaved men could also like to have an FPC without smutty comments. This is supposed to be one of the best photo sections on the WikiProject, not the Thursday Club. --Cart (talk) 16:00, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose not really impressed by the photo nor the art itself. - Benh (talk) 17:31, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Per Benh. —kallerna (talk) 07:42, 22 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The template about FOP in Portugal (included on this photo) says that under Portuguese law the name of the artist must be given alongside derivative works like this one wherever possible. "Wherever possible" does not mean "only if it's easy", there is an onus on the publisher to make a reasonable attempt to ascertain ownership of the original work. This one is signed at the bottom, so it should be possible to find out the full name of the artist and properly attribute them. BigDom (talk) 07:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 10 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 13:24, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: Objects/Architectural elements#Doors
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