Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:PIA10245-Martian landslide.jpg

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File:PIA10245-Martian landslide.jpg, featured[edit]

Voting period ends on 31 Dec 2008 at 12:04:01
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  •  Info created by NASA - uploaded by Anrie - nominated by Anrie -- Anrie (talk) 12:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Info The image shows a Martian avalanche, or debris fall, in action. It is extremely rare to catch such a dramatic event in action and observing currently active processes is often a useful tool in unlocking puzzles of the past for scientists studying the Earth.
  •  Support -- Anrie (talk) 12:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Indeed an interesting image. This is one of the great achievements of photography, that we seem to have lost sight of, the fact that photograhy transports us to far away places. I have one question (and many more probably!) I suppose that the high ground is the one of the left, the dark one, however, What is the scale? --Tomascastelazo (talk) 14:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure about the scale. From the source page: The cloud is about 180 meters (590 feet) across and extends about 190 meters (625 feet) from the base of the steep cliff.. Indeed, the high ground is on the left. Again from the source page: The largest cloud [pictured] traces the path of the debris as it fell down the slope, hit the lower slope, and continues downhill, forming a billowing cloud front. Anrie (talk) 14:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
One more "great" reason to oppose an amazing image!--Mbz1 (talk) 17:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We have many Featured Pictures of which the awesomeness only becomes clear once one reads the summary. See, for example, a low-quality image of a man parachuting, low-quality image of three Russian woman simply standing still, this grainy picture of who knows what and strange, black gooey stuff. These are all images which depend to a certain degree on an explanation of what they contain. I hope this convinces you to reconsider. Anrie (talk) 17:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IMO The image is one of commons "finest" pictures because it is highly educational and higly encyclopedic.--Mbz1 (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not clear to me why that picture is highly educational. I also don't really see where on wp it could possibly be extremely usefull, there is no article "landslides on mars" (only an extremely short part in "landslides") and I think we have quite a lot of pictures about mars already. So a little bit of criticism must be allowed here. -- Gorgo (talk) 20:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment One of the greatest achievements of photography is that it brings different events, places and times to the present with a quality never seen before in the history of mankind. The fact that most people never reflect on this and take photography for granted is no reason to assume that these significant characteristics have come to pass. In fact, they are alive and well. The very fact that millions upon millions of dollars are spent on space travel and exploration, and the end result is a very sophisticated vehicle that basically what it does, among other things, is to gather visual information by putting a camera in front!!! Think of it as a rocket-propelled camera!
The fact that one may ignore the content or the context of an image does not make it less important or impressive, but rather, it points out to the “lack of sensitivity” of the observer.
The Mona Lisa is to many a work of art, appreciated by many, but the fact that one person may not consider it a work of art due to his/her own shortcomings, does not make a non work of art nor a subject of non appreciation. The same thing can be said for music.
Now, as far as technical perfection, photography on earth has evolved drastically, and in today´s photography perhaps we can be picky (and pricky) about megapixels, HDR and all the new tec godies, but that does not diminish the value that photography of the past continues to bring us to this day. It is like time travel. And to judge great historical and valuable photographs based on today´s technical standards is plain foolish.
To observe a high quality photograph of mars in today´s high quality standards, is in itself a wonder, both for photography and human achievement. The photograph is a testimony to both.
Now, the sensitive part. A drive by oppose really does a disservice to the pursuit of knowledge, to the people who have worked to bring this to us, to the nominator and to the Wikipedia effort. Personal preference should be second to the public good. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 20:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think your comparision with the "Taliban" is extremely out of place here. And no, I didn't ignore the context.-- Gorgo (talk) 20:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"when you don't know anything about the subject (and no "wow"), kind of picture which make you wonder why well-informed people think its valuable and search informations about it." Great point! Pom².--Mbz1 (talk) 15:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
result: 7 support, 2 oppose, 0 neutral => featured. -- Lycaon (talk) 21:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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result: 1 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral => not featured. -- Lycaon (talk) 21:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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