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File:Magna Carta.jpg, not featured[edit]

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Magna Carta
  •  Info created by the barons and King John of England, digitized by the British Library - uploaded by Earthsound - nominated by Earthsound -- Earthsound (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Earthsound (talk) 21:23, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment always the same problem... As uploaded above another version (with the same text, in fact, it's another document), the description in the file page is not true, and concerns only the first uploaded image : where is, here, King John's Great Seal ?--Jebulon (talk) 15:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    •  Comment Actually, the description on the file page is accurate and true. The original file uploaded (as well as the 2nd file uploaded) was the later 1225 version (the seal on which is of Henry III). The third file uploaded was the even later 1297 version (confirmed by Edward I). For information regarding those two later versions of the Magna Carta, see the timeline of the Magna Carta at http://www.bl.uk/treasures/magnacarta/shockwave/magna_carta_broadband.htm. See the history of the file (and its description) before assuming, please. As for the "missing" seal, according to http://www.bl.uk/treasures/magnacarta/basics/basics.html (which you can get to from the file description page) "Three of the four surviving copies of Magna Carta have lost their wax seals over the centuries. The only one which still has its seal is the burnt copy on display here [at the British Library]. Unfortunately the seal was destroyed when the charter was burnt by fire in 1731..." Consequently, this is the only high resolution image of any of the four known surviving copies of the original 1215 Magna Carta. Earthsound (talk) 04:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've read all before assuming, and I understand what you say. Please note that I did'nt vote. I'm afraid that my  Comment was not clear, because not careful enough, sorry. But i did not really understand why the description page says authentificated by the Great Seal of King John, because the seal is missing. I was confused with the first document uploaded, which have a visible seal (of a later king, ok). I still think that all of these very interesting documents are different files, and not different versions of the same (even the text is the same). And please don't forget I wright here in a non natural language for me, and it's a bit hard for me in this kind of matters, sorry...--Jebulon (talk) 10:13, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • When referring to the Magna Carta, it is normally understood to be the original, 1215 version, hence my uploading the original 1215 version on top of the 1225/1297 versions. I can understand your initial confusion, if you're assuming the original image uploaded was, in fact, the 1215 original. On a side note, both Henry III's version in 1225 & Edward I's in 1297 are shorter than the original, having omitted and changed some things. I agree with you, though. The three versions should be regarded as separate files/documents. I would posit that the latter two could/should be uploaded and named (something like) Magna Carta 1225.jpg and Magna Carta 1297.jpg. [forgot to sign this, should be: Earthsound (talk) 21:55, 28 April 2010 (UTC)][reply]
  •  Support and many thanks for kind explanations.Kiss Robin Hood for me, please.--Jebulon (talk) 23:04, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Moral support. Important, but not a typical Commons-style FP, as it lacks clear visual appeal. It might do well as a VP. Good resolution and sharpness, but there seem to be several features that might be photographic artefacts - e.g. dark lines (scratches?) like those below the upper right corner. --Avenue (talk) 22:55, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 2 support, 0 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky talk 07:36, 4 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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