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File:Kaunas Town Hall 2, Kaunas, Lithuania - Diliff.jpg[edit]
Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes.Voting period ends on 7 Nov 2019 at 10:12:32 (UTC)
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- Category: Commons:Featured pictures/Places/Architecture/Towers
- Info created by Diliff - uploaded by Diliff - nominated by Pofka -- Pofka (talk) 10:12, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Even if it is not a Diliff's church interior, I believe it is of excellent quality, has a very pleasant illumination and easily is the best in this prominent Lithuanian landmark Commons category. -- Pofka (talk) 10:12, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I'm not too wowed by it, sorry. It's "just" a nice photo of a church.--Peulle (talk) 12:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Peulle: It is not a church and never was. :) It is a medieval Town Hall of Kaunas, the second largest city of Lithuania. I think, the fact that you mistaken this town hall with a church could count as a wow, and as a support of my statement that it is an extraordinary landmark. :) -- Pofka (talk) 16:00, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. Still now wowed, though. To me it looks like an ordinary postcard.--Peulle (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Not the most inspired composition idea ever but I am wowed by the level of detail. I added an annotation where the sky could be improved. --Kreuzschnabel 15:35, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support per Kreuzschnabel. Cmao20 (talk) 16:03, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't see why you have to support just because they are who they are. You should support based on other factors as well, I do not get why Diliff being Diliff automatically puts him above everyone else. Sure he is very talented and his pictures are good, but he isn't "easily the best". There must be some competition at least. Now back to this photo, I can see this being used on a postcard on the side. The town hall is quite uninteresting, I think the town hall in some random town in Massachusetts looks much better. Nothing seems so extraordinary. --Boothsift 01:22, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Boothsift: Please show any picture which have the same detail, quality in this category: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Town_hall_in_Kaunas. All of them have some kind of technical issues: quality, lighting, sky, shadows, etc. So there are no solid competititors for this object in the Commons and it is a proof of its quality. I think the discussion about what is more beautiful is pointless, however one fact is really interesting: when this town hall construction began in 1542 there was absolutely no ideas about the United States and all of the town halls in your mentioned Massachusetts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Town_halls_in_Massachusetts) were built 200-400 years later, so the historical value of the buildings are incomparable. -- Pofka (talk) 12:24, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Pofka: It's called a hyperbole. This is so uninteresting that it can't even compare to some town halls in Massachusetts. It's an exaggeration. Second, if anything I'm getting from this, it's that you 1) are clearly a Diliff fanboy/girl and 2) can't tell the difference between featured pictures, valued images, and quality images. Who cares if this is the best image in the category, I can make any category and upload all blurry photos. One of them will clearly be better than the others, but does that give it Featured Pictures status? Also historical is not really a reason. A 30 million year old rock is still a rock. A historical boring town hall is still a boring town hall. This isn't quality images nor valued images, there must be some wow. There's probably tons of more interesting buildings in Lithuania than this non notable town hall. --Boothsift 23:45, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per others: only a very good QI. --A.Savin 19:47, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Weak oppose It's a beautiful photo, but the "wow factor" just isn't on par with some of the other candidates. —Percival Kestreltail (talk) 01:06, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support per kreuzschnabel — Rhododendrites talk | 03:56, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose wow-lacking Poco2 11:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment @Boothsift: @A.Savin: @Peulle: @Kestreltail: @Poco a poco: If this picture is uninteresting, ordinary, without wow then how these images are FPs? Where is wow in them? https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Front_View_of_George_Washington_Masonic_National_Memorial.jpg (completely blurry with smartphone quality, 1,73 MB), https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hirtshals_Fyr_2015.jpg (similar illumination, way lower quality 4,67 MB), https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Toronto_-_ON_-_Toronto_Harbourfront7.jpg (almost completely blurry tower, 3,18 MB), https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Grisbl%C3%A4nkan_August_2013.jpg (3,58 MB blurry), https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Basel_-_Wasserturm_Bruderholz2.jpg (very similar to my nominated image, fair competitor). I see double standards or something (maybe jealous by Boothsift because he wants more recognition too with such angry attitude) and denomination process should be started for these images then because they also are non-wow and many of a way lower quality. -- Pofka (talk) 20:50, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Keeping in mind that I believe delisting an FP should be harder than voting it down if now nominated: (1) Should be delisted. (2) Probably shouldn't be nominated for delisting, as it was unanimously supported in January, 2017. (3) Maybe should be delisted; I'd probably vote to delist. (4) Shouldn't be delisted, because of the fun composition. (5) Good quality and composition, no sound basis for nominating for delisting. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:55, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Mild Oppose - As for this photo, I just can't get excited about it. The left and right crops are somewhat random, as are the positions of the people on the left. It's a very high-quality image of this building with a normal sky and light, with nothing additional. I think if Mr. Iliff were here, he would say this is not an FP. I don't think it is, either. It's a very good QI, and if our voting that way shows that our standards for what should be featured are higher now than they were, say, in 2017, that's not at all a bad thing but due to the number of excellent exterior pictures of buildings that have been nominated here since then. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:00, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- None of the above listed pictures I voted for, so it's meaningless to ask me why they are featured. You can ask me instead, why I don't think that the Kaunas Town Hall should not be featured, but IMHO 'nuff said already. --A.Savin 22:04, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think any of those should be Featured Pictures (except maybe the 4th one). This one is more of a contender for FP than all of those, to be honest. —Percival Kestreltail (talk) 01:33, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Pofka: Please do not tag people for no reason at all. At least check the nominations before accusing us of having double standards. Does any of the nominations you listed even have my vote? How do you know that I would support them? Stop with these accusations. I want more recognition? If I wanted more recognition, I would simply have pinged everyone, wrote in all bold and italicize, increased the font size, made sure all my words were all capitalized, maybe even write change colors every letter. You need to stop making false assumptions and stop accusing people of doing things they did not do. --Boothsift 06:56, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- I withdraw my nomination Okey. Let's start denomination process then because we have higher standards now and according to comments almost none of these images should be FPs, so I'm kind of interested how this will sort out in reality and if the same standards will be applied to them as well. -- Pofka (talk) 10:49, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Pofka: To be honest, number 4 is okay but everything else is too boring. I would be happy to nominate them for delisting if you are able to provide a reason.--Boothsift 17:44, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment That‘s why I will never ever again nominate one of my photos. —Granada (talk) 12:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - You won't be held to that (you have the right to change your mind), but as long as you continue nominating photos to QI/VI (dunno if you've ever nominated to VI, but that would be good), we have a better chance to see them and may ourselves nominate some here. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)