Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Hilda tenorio 1.jpg

File:Hilda tenorio 1.jpg, not featured

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•  Info created, uploaded, nominated by -- Tomascastelazo (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Hilda Tenorio, a female Mexican bullfighter -- Tomascastelazo (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Steven Walling 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
•  Oppose Nice catch, the detail is fairly good. However, the crop is too loose, and the background and angle are not the best. The picture is overall good, but it's not the kind of image I expect to be featured in this subject. I'm close from voting neutral, though... - Keta (talk) 14:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
  •  Question What do you mean the crop is too loose? And the background? It is a bullfight ring, without distracting elements, thus centering the view on subjects. Angle? Is there such thing as an angle in this type of photograph? I really don´t understand your vote. ;0) --Tomascastelazo (talk) 12:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
  •  Comment Well, I was just stating why I feel that this picture lacks certain things which would make it featured IMO. I must admit, that it's a very personal point of view, and others might love the picture, which BTW as I said is very good :) About the angle, if this picture was taken from a site in front of where you were, I bet the angle would have been somewhat different, right? ;) - Keta (talk) 19:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
    •  Comment Keta, angle depends on two axis, vertical displacement of camera (up or down) and distance camera-subject. Take a fixed camera position, and the angle will depend on the subject to camera distance. The closer the subject, the steeper the angle and viceversa. Now, on static subjects one can choose the angle that best suits the need; on moving subjects, such as this, usually a fixed point of view or a relatively static point of view is necessary, for the action can occur anyplace and one is left more with opportunity shots than planned shots, camera movement is difficult in sports. In this particular case, I happened to be just above the wall, the subject was in the other side of the ring, thus a low angle. Now, if I had been on top of the bleachers, I would have gotten a steeper angle, and if the subjects were closer to the camera, the angle would have been steeper. Additionally, subject and background relationship is also affected. So realities of the shooting live situation, fixed, low camera angle, and moving subjects. I cannot call the fixed camera position or the moving subject disadvantages, but those were the variables. Photographic merit aside, if any, the redeeming value of this photograph is also that it photographs a female bullfighter, who is coming up through the professional ranks on her own merit and has performed in renown bullfigting rings alongside world class bullfighters. Sometimes photography is like wine, you just have to accept certain characteristics... Not all good wine tastes the same... The trick is to distinguish the characteristics that make it good. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 22:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
    •  Neutral I'm aware that you took the picture from where you were, but that just means (for me at least) that you weren't at the best place at the right time ;) You should have emphasized the importance of a female bullfighter, for which I'm changing my vote to neutral, and approaching to a support... - Keta (talk) 08:24, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
•  Support Good capture of interesting subject. --Avenue (talk) 13:25, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Confirmed results:

Result: 3 support, 0 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /George Chernilevsky ^talk 05:18, 26 May 2010 (UTC)