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File:Corvus monedula-0001.jpg, not featured[edit]

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Jackdaw (Corvus monedula)
What would you prefer? closer or wider crop? Or anything else. MatthiasKabel (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support It is excellent for scientific illustrations in biology pages. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:06, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I presume that it was free-flying in the zoo grounds - can you clarify this in the image description? The image description was disappointing for a scientific illustraion, so I have put in some more details in the image description to help to bring the associated documentation to this file up to standard. Snowmanradio (talk) 19:37, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Info You are right. I tried to clarify the image description, feel free to correct my english. MatthiasKabel (talk) 20:00, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I have rephrased it a bit. I have seen Jackdaws and crows in Whipsnade Zoo, England - I think Jackdaws tend to live in family groups. Would you say that the flock was large or a group of about 10 to 20 or so? I would like to quantify the number of Jackdaws in the flock a bit better. Why not add an image description in German (or your native language)? - it is a Austrian zoo. Incidentally, have you got any photographs of the parrots in this zoo? Snowmanradio (talk) 16:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not very good ones, but I can create some on my next visit. MatthiasKabel (talk) 16:35, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The shadow, which is cropped of a little bit distracts me somewhat. IMO the shadow should either be entirely in the frame, or cropped deliberately, so to say. (Hope you get the idea, I have difficuties expressing precisely what i mean in English). --Slaunger (talk) 21:30, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, will wait for more comments and and depending on them crop the image. MatthiasKabel (talk) 22:05, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is a good point about the shadow, and perhaps a little more foreground might help place the bird in the centre of the image and let us see a bit more snow (but not too much). When the shadow is included the bird might be too far over to the right, so some extra space might be needed on the right of the bird. another option is to do a tight crop focusing on the bird, but I suspect it might not be so clear what the bird is doing. Snowmanradio (talk) 15:29, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Concerning a tighter crop and a centered composition, I agree that is a good path for use in, e.g., a taxobox. Encouraging photos well suited for online display on Wikimedia projects is the focal point of the Valued Images program, for which this photo, when cropped as you say, may be a very good candidate within the scope Corvus monedula. However, the focal point for COM:FP is a little different IMO with more emphasis on the esthetics, technical quality, resolution and composition, and here a centered composition with a tight crop would be the wrong avenue to follow IMO. --Slaunger (talk) 15:55, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 1 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /99of9 (talk) 05:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]