Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Carrots in market.jpg

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File:Carrots in market.jpg[edit]

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  •  Info created, uploaded, nominated by -- Tomascastelazo (talk) 01:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Tomascastelazo (talk) 01:26, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral Nice colors and "pop", but the composition looks a bit messy. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment What does "composition looks a bit messy" mean? I really hate to lecture, but... Composition wise, it is a very simple composition, two elements, the table and the carrots. The rule of thirds is followed, one third table, two thirds carrots. So messy composition in my opinion is a wrong term. If anything, it is a very measured, clean composition. On the graphic side, we also have simplicity: color and repetition. That the carrots are in a haphazard pile, well, it is carrots in a market... Now, there is one element that to the observant is relevant... But after all, it is a simple picture of carrots in a market. Can you see the market? --Tomascastelazo (talk) 16:32, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose There's more to "composition" than lining two major elements up on the rule of thirds line. An attractive basket would be better than that migraine-inducing-green box. The random arrangement of carrots has no depth and little to interest the viewer. A basic Google Image search for "carrots" turns up countless examples of more inviting images. Sorry, but this is a long way from feature-worthy IMO. Colin (talk) 17:45, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Of course there is more to composition, the link you provide above should be a must read for anyone evaluating photographs here... Have you? And yes, there are millions of better photos not only in the internet, but stashed away someplace. But this one is here, and it is free. But I do not think I am ready to produce a picture of something in an attractive basket to please the particular taste of anyone. I photograph reality as it presents itself to the world, extracting what I consider relevant. And that migrane-inducing green box is an expression of a particular culture, a particular place, that has much to say to the educated mind. It is like music... to some it is noise, to some it is the metrics of sounds, to others, pleasure... --Tomascastelazo (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
...and to others, The Emperor's New Clothes. Sorry, Tomascastelazo, these are carrots, not some deep art that only the highly educated mind can appreciate. Colin (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
... one of my favorite stories... you should read it too... Art? Who said anything about art? I never pretended them to be art, just as I said, carrots in market... --Tomascastelazo (talk) 19:06, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Of course there can be, and there are better pictures, better photographers, but this has to be one of the silliest arguments to oppose. If we were to apply that criteria to oppose, not one single image in Commons would be featured, for there is always room for improvement. The reality is that this picture is the one up for voting, not some Platonic ideal concocted up in someone´s mind, who has no idea what photography is all about, nor how to judge on photographic and documentary merits. If the lack of quality really bothers someone, they should set the example of quality, and show the world how things are done. Evaluators should at least use universally agreed terminology in photo evaluation, if they know what that is. Also the responsibility for the quality in FPC resides not only on the photograph, good or bad, for I´ve seen extraordinary photography shot down by inadequate, ignorant judging. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 16:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is this nomination just a piss-take, Tomascastelazo? Are you just trolling us? The photo is deeply boring and has unpleasant colours. It completely fails to capture the interest of the viewer, who can't wait to get this luminous arrangement of pixels off their screen. There, that's my reason for opposing. All the rest is just an aside. Colin (talk) 17:08, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I take my photography and my nominations very seriously, and if you read the thread you are the one who started using inadequate terms in the evaluation, pointing out reasons to oppose that are not within the evaluation criteria and based on your personal taste (which is fine), implying bad quality, bad technique or what have you. To say that the picture is deeply boring for example, is a personal value judgement outside of the criteria. And since you take the effort to evaluate from the wrong parameters in detriment of the spirit of Commons, so I take the effort to point out your lack of objectivity and question your authority to speak on behalf of the viewers. If it is boring for you, so be it, you have a right to your opinion, but I do not recall you being appointed the spokesperson of the community. I speak from my experience, from deeds done, from contributions, whereas I cannot really see where your assumed authoritative knowledge comes from. --Tomascastelazo (talk) 18:58, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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