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File:Cabo Frio, Rio de Janeiro, Brasil.jpg, not featured[edit]

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Yes, artifacts and weird colors. Faces and arms. @Yann the reason is certainly because the color space is ProPhoto RGB, not sRGB. See this nomination with similar problems -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:39, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Agreed with Basile Morin. Also agreed with Yann about the category. Human behaviour seems to be more the subject here than the whale. --Jay.Jarosz (talk) 06:20, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak support The gallery link is indeed misleading. IMHO this is a really funny and revealing picture (almost like a caricature) of human behaviour. The whale behaves with dignity, just as most animals do most of the time; we, the human beings, are behaving ridiculously. – But of course the tilt (see horizon) would need correction, {{Personality rights}} should be added, the gallery link should be changed to something like Commons:Featured pictures/People#Others. I see no problems with the colours, but agree that ProPhoto RGB, which is an excellent colour space for advanced editing with 16 or more bits per channel, is not advisable for simple JPEG output files with just 8 bits per channel. So it would be better to convert the photo to a RGB colour space which is suited better for 8 bits per channel. --Aristeas (talk) 10:36, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I changed the gallery from the purely animal to this. Of course the focus is on the human behavior, but they wouldn't behave this way if there wasn't something to react to, and here the reason for it is an animal. The 'habitat' gallery is wide enough to include inter-species (human/animal) photos like this.
But the compo and quality of the photo is another matter. --Cart (talk) 11:22, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added Personality rights template, also I fixed the tilt, I added retouched template cited by Basile, I changed the colors space, however, The other mistakes I think could happen since this is not a static image of a landscape or a stationary object like an architectural construction where you have the time to adjust the camera and do many things. This is not Seaworld, this photo was taken in a remote area hours from the coast and a unique sighting after a whole day waiting, additionally this is not just a sighting of the humpback whale but also the reaction of the people. I honestly think the combination is unique. Wilfredor (talk) 12:24, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment The artifacts are still here, and the stitching errors too. Actually the artifacts seem to come from the post-processing, because the original image reveals an insufficient level of detail. The problem with the current plastic-like effect is that many local parts seem deformed. Look at the tattooed arm of the guy laughing in the center for example, it is completely gray in the current version. Weird. The man with a cap and a red cellphone looks like a monster when zooming, sorry, same as his neighbors, and he's got like three hands. Unfortunately these people are also half recognizable, so maybe it's detrimental -- Basile Morin (talk) 13:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    ✓ Done I just did a remake of both the edge you mentioned, I also corrected the tilt but the sky left it as it was naturally and I also did apply selective noise reduction techniques. The plastic faces should be corrected now Wilfredor (talk) 13:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's a big dust spot at the upper right corner. But the faces look more natural now, and the legitimate templates are also an improvement. The stitching errors are still here, however, and I don't think this part is fixable, mainly because the space will be too limited in any case, as part of the composition. The picture had several problems at the beginning, in my view: low level of detail, bland light /washed out colors, and above all no space at all around the ship. Even with the best will of the world, it's hard to produce a FP from a technically mediocre shot -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I think there could be a balance between focusing on pixel errors and composition. I agree that it is a mediocre photo but having a humpback whale in the middle plus the expression of the people gives it significant weight. Of course the technical is objective and the weight is subjective. Wilfredor (talk) 03:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • On the other way, it is just a fin of the whale, and a boat full of tourists brandishing their cell phones in packs. With the advertising designs painted on the hull, this tour feels a bit of mass attraction -- Basile Morin (talk) 05:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    It is a live moment where several animals are interacting, in my photos I try to ensure that social interaction exists on many occasions. Other photographers prefer inert landscapes, others architecture and that's fine. Wilfredor (talk) 06:03, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unilateral observation more than "interaction" in this picture -- Basile Morin (talk) 06:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    I appreciate your technical feedback and agree that there are aspects that can be improved. However, I also believe that the essence of this photograph lies in its ability to capture a living moment. Although it may not be technically perfect, its artistic/encyclopedic value resides in the story it tells and the emotions it evokes. I will continue working on balancing technique and artistic expression in my future photos Wilfredor (talk) 06:28, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Weak oppose This is a good useful capture and I understand why it is presented here but I fear that for me Basile’s ‘dull light’ is the killer. The composition is also not quite satisfying to me. I find it hard to say exactly why but I think my problem is the boat is too close to the top left of the frame with insufficient room to breathe. Cmao20 (talk) 02:15, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 1 support, 3 oppose, 0 neutral → not featured. /Basile Morin (talk) 05:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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