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Birch trunks in snow and sunshine
  • Charles, The thing that made me want to nominate this pic became evident only when I came home and went through the photos. When I took the photo, I had no thought of a possible FP. It turned out that it showed the soft silk-like sheen the bark on birches sometimes have very well. It is hard to capture in a photo, but the light was at such an angle as to display this in a very good way and it contrasted well against the cold harsh snow. That was 'wow' for me, but perhaps you need to live among northern birches to appreciate this. cart-Talk 15:31, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • No surprise there. You are a hard man to please. ;) I looked through your voting here at FPC since January, and even though you are very active I could only find two times that you voted in 'Support' of a photo, excluding those you nominated yourself. But thanks for taking an interest. --cart-Talk 21:39, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • So what? FPC used to look for the very best images there are on Commons, and if most nominations don’t reach that standard in his opinion, opposing them is exactly the appropriate behaviour. Is there a mandatory percentage of supports to be given by any voter in here? Well, just give it a few months, and he won’t be able to keep standards up for long against a majority burying any mediocre, not-so-bad image under their supports, making the FP badge as meaningless as it is now, being granted generously within a community supporting each other’s nominations freely as long as they’re not too bad. I almost stopped uploading pictures here at all recently. --Kreuzschnabel 23:05, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi Kreuz. Yes, I know that you are another one of the "hardliners" here and your critique is usually well explained, with some foundation and delivered in a concise, clinical way without any personal attacks. You once 'Supported' one of my photos and I was so surprised, you could have knocked me over with a feather. I was wondering where you had gone off to, we miss you to help keep this project in order. :) Cheers, cart-Talk 23:24, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

[unindent]  Comment - Kreuzschnabel, I wish you would come back and participate more at FPC. I appreciate the way you keep us honest and continually remind us of what "FP" should stand for. But I wish you wouldn't feel too bad about whether we feature one picture or another. I respect that that could be a question of some artistic importance, but it's hardly life or death. I mean it's not a Presidential election or something. :( -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:36, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • "You once 'Supported' one of my photos and I was so surprised, you could have knocked me over with a feather."
Now you have the why I do what do... but no.
W.carter I like to be provoked, but if I can, I do a list of whys [1]. And I know that you sensitive when I said that is a "photo of nothing".
Do you want a explanation, okay, you just need to ask:
The main subject is deadly centre, and cut at the bottom and at the top, and it's not close enough to be a photo of the details, so what you are trying to show? Don't have scale, the light is good, but not stands out enough to guarantee a FP stamp, opened in full screen it lacks sharpness. The snow have a lot of blue cast, talking about negative space, the brown tree removes attention, and do not add to the photo, and seems to be another specie, not mentioned at the description.
All that can be summarize in "nothing strikes me here. Nice light, but, that's it." as we are not at Commons:Photography critiques sometimes I prefer just say no for average pictures, specially when the person sensitive or is popular here, and his colleagues will approve even "okay" photos; avoiding fatigue as we say here in BR.
Okay?
x0x0 -- Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton m 00:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment Sorry Ikan but I don’t feel welcome in here any more, being the only one to poop the party in so many cases, just because I think that only excellent, outstanding pictures deserve to be featured. The community thinks another way than myself, turning FPC into some sort of QIC de luxe, that’s why I left here, just because I don’t want to bother you all. W.carters comment on Rodrigo says it all – opposing too many candidates is considered bad behaviour, regardless of reasons! There have been some revenge voters, Livio for instance, and the community could cope with them – but if any voter in here thinks honestly (as I do myself) that at least 80 per cent of nominations do not reach their personal FP level, they should be free to vote that way without being frowned at, right? (They’ll be outvoted anyway.) --Kreuzschnabel 09:12, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Kreuz, I was very sincere when I wrote that I've missed you here and I'd like you to come back as much as Ikan do. I have never minded your Opposes since they are always civilized and factual. Our ways of evaluating the purely artistic qualities of a photo may differ, but I've always respected your comments. cart-Talk 09:37, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose - I've spent some time looking at and thinking about this photo, and I've read the pro and con arguments. It's a nice photo for sure. Maybe it's indeed because I live in a city without a lot of birch trees, but for whatever reason, I don't really feel this as a Featured Picture. And I guess that means I should vote to oppose a feature. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  •  I withdraw my nomination And with that, I think it is time to close this. The photo is obviously not good enough, it has received some valid critique and many good users have seen it and passed it by and that is also telling. The nom has turned into a debate that is better suited for some other forum or talk page. Please feel free to continue the debate there. Cheers, cart-Talk 09:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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