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Court of the Lions of Alhambra
  •  Info Court of the Lions of Alhambra. The light is quite challenging (extreme bright, dark differences), shooting conditions poor (no tripods allowed, a lot of people, very limited time). I made a hand-held exposure fusion.
    all by me. I look forward to your reviews. -- Tuxyso (talk) 10:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Tuxyso (talk) 10:02, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral good quality, but could you try to give the image a more natural appearance? --Martin Falbisoner (talk) 12:43, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose. Yeah, unfortunately the processing is just not realistic looking. Diliff (talk) 17:00, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • ✓ Done Martin and Diliff, I've hopefully adressed your issue and made a completely new development. IMHO it looks now more naturally. It would be nice to take another look and give some feedback. Thanks. --Tuxyso (talk) 19:05, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support Per others --Christian Ferrer (talk) 06:34, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for re-reviewing. The current photo is the most natural looking one I could achieve - I made several attempts... --Tuxyso (talk) 08:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • It's not easy to make this sort of scene look natural. It's tempting to do all the processing in a tone mapping/exposure fusion software, but I often find that it's better to output a very 'flat' tone mapped/fused image, and then do the rest of the post-processing in Lightroom/Photoshop. It's more time consuming and difficult that way, but you end up with better control of how it looks. I'm not sure how you're processing it, but it's worth keeping in mind. :-) Diliff (talk) 09:19, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for your suggestions. I usually use Photomatix 4 only for exposure fusion. The tonemapping and selective shadow brightening, local white balances,... is done in LR. The function "Merge to 32 Bit HDR" has the disadvantage that ghosts cannot me marked as those. Thus I usually use Photomatix with manual ghost marking and exposure fusion in combination with LR. The detail enhancer method ofter leads to unnatural results - I use it very seldom. --Tuxyso (talk) 10:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment There are some issues: the right side is closer to the camera than the left one (horizontal perspective correction needed?), to me it still looks unnatural (but wouldn't make me oppose with this improved version), the closer group of columns on the right is leaning out and there are some noticeable halos, especially 2 people in the middle of the right side. The place is, of course, magic... Poco2 15:48, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose As said in QIC, Granada is one of my favorite places in the world. But all the issues mentioned by Poco are enough for me to oppose. I think an attempt to clone out the tourists could be interesting. Once again, I'll be there next summer vacations, and I'll try to do something. And yes, the place is magic !--Jebulon (talk) 16:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support -- Colin (talk) 18:46, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose As said in QIC, as Jebulon--Miguel Bugallo (Lmbuga) 20:21, 20 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Neutral I can't oppose this, but I can't support it. I actually went off and did something else for 20 minutes or so and came back for this one ... and it just seems ... unreal, or maybe hyper-real. I can't imagine how difficult it is to get the lighting right, since I've never visited this site, but it looks like a painting that was itself created in a badly lit studio. Details in shadow are (seemingly) impossibly highlighted; every nearby tourist is partially obscured. It feels like a composite; it feels like a manipulation—and, with apologies, I can't seem to get past that. —ATinySliver/ATalkPage 06:39, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Result: 5 support, 2 oppose, 1 neutral → not featured. /Blurred Lines 12:13, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]