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Students from Yogyakarta State University put on a fashion show on Sudirman Street, Yogyakarta, to celebrate Chinese New Year. They are taking advantage of the car-free day policies.
  • There isn't movement anywhere. This is an outstanding portrait. Focus is where is has to be, with great sharpness. There is very good light, amazing face expression, very good composition as well (eyes, neck and head follow rule of thirds, for example). Unfocused red fan and blurred enough background provide depth and context. I really don't think this could be any better. --Kadellar (talk) 11:13, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think King may have been referring to what looks like motion blur of the umbrella. I'm not sure if it's just regular out of focus or whether the umbrella is rotating. Either way, it's not a problem though! Diliff (talk) 20:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Discussion on privacy
    • Benh, this is the way it has always been with regard to privacy. If you feel like you need to stay at home to avoid people taking photos of you, then that's what you need to do. You can't stop anyone from taking photos of you, and neither should you. Public is public, private is private. The only difference is that now, one copy of a photo can multiply infinitely, which wasn't possible before the digital age. I don't think it justifies asking permission for every photo of a person though, it just means you have to adjust your expectations of privacy IMO. However, I'm not saying that people shouldn't be ethical in their photography. Of course they should, but if you are participating in a fashion show at a public performance, do you really think you have any expectation of privacy? Diliff (talk) 21:59, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • David, I still have the right to go out whenever I feel like so, and I still have the right of not being aimed at by anyone. I wouldn't like anybody to use any image of me for privacy reason, and well because I still have rights with my own image. If I'm caught on public exhibition, and I'm lost in the crowd and not the main subject of the picture, it's fine. If I take up this much space of the frame, then I have my word to say on it. You wouldn't want a FP of you ending up on first page of Wikipedia without your consent, do you? - Benh (talk) 22:46, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • When one is the performer, one generally doesn't end up lost in the crowd. As for public places, Commons:Photographs of identifiable people is an official guideline. If you disagree with it, discussion can easily take place at Commons talk:Photographs of identifiable people. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • Judging by Commons:Country specific consent requirements, France is one of the more restrictive countries so you are right about yourself, but in most countries, it is only the publishing and use commercially that there are restrictions on. The point I was making is that you don't really have any intrinsic right to not be aimed at by anyone. Any rights that you have are local or national laws and not a 'human right'. Obviously the exact laws vary from country to country, but in most countries, generally speaking, you have no right to that kind of privacy or to tell someone that they can't photograph you. I'm fairly confident that it's the case in Indonesia too, but there's no information on the consent guidelines about it. Diliff (talk) 23:37, 12 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
        • One shouldn't really have any expectation of privacy when they are a performer at a festival parade on a public street. -- KTC (talk) 00:49, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
          • OK Yes, no privacy when in a public place. But my image is still mine, and I wouldn't permit anyone use it at will. I do take photos of people from time to time, most of the time I would even ask them permission to shot alone. But I'd never publish it, whatever the bloody rules of the country is, simply because I wouldn't like this to happen to me. I bet we're more than a few to be in that case. - Benh (talk) 10:43, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
            • Maybe it's because you grew up in a country where the laws support this point of view though. I grew up in a country (and now live in another country where it is the same) where, for the most part, it is completely legal to take photos of people and publish them, but not use them commercially. And I have no problem with this. I have no idea why anyone would want to use an image of me commercially anyway though. It's such an unlikely situation that I can't imagine it, but if for example Coca Cola used an image of me to promote Coke, that would be a different story - that's commercial exploitation, not just publishing. If someone simply happened to take a photo of me and put it on Flickr or something, I wouldn't care. I'd be surprised, but not upset. How does it harm me? For the same reason, if someone used my photos on their personal web site, I don't really care. I mainly care about commercial exploitation of my images because I think if a company is going to profit from my work, they should compensate for that, but that's another side issue. What exactly are you so concerned about? Realistically, what is the worst thing that could happen if someone took a photo of you in public and published it non-commercially without your permission? Diliff (talk) 11:00, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
              • You don't care, I do. It may harm me because I like to control what image I give to other people. And any photo put to Commons, and FPed, is very likely yo see its exposition amplified. Many people don't read copyrights or banners, who knows how it's going to be used? I act more carefully when dealing with living beings, instead of objects. Anyways, have been digressing enough. Was just my point of view. - Benh (talk) 21:08, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
              • "Realistically, what is the worst thing that could happen if someone took a photo of you in public and published it non-commercially without your permission? Diliff" - I think everybody here know it. :) Jee 03:34, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
                • Without a model release (which practically 0% of Commons images have) this image can only be used "editorially" and not "commercially" (by which I mean, to promote something). People's ethical position wrt street/candid photography varies enormously (though this appears to be a performance) and I respect that. -- Colin (talk) 20:20, 14 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 11 support, 5 oppose, 1 neutral → featured. /KTC (talk) 00:19, 20 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This image will be added to the FP gallery: People
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