Commons:Requests and votes/Forrester

 Support = 38;  Oppose = 5;  Neutral = 1 - 88% Successful, Forrester is now a Commons sysop. There was some opposition over his involvement in the DUP project at DeWP, but there was also support for those same actions. I thus conclude that the good faith and legitimate lack of agreement between DeWP users as to the merits of the DUP did not result in a lack of consensus to promote the user here. The votes of confidence from a significant number of regular Commons users lead me to believe that the community wishes to promote Forrester, and I have done accordingly. I believe that this consensus would exist with or without my prior particiption in this RfA and that this has had no impact on my close. —Giggy 11:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Forrester

Hi there! :) I started to be a Commons member in Feb 2006 but was rather inactive until several months ago. My main areas of work on German Wikipedia are media files and copyright issues. I have founded (and am still active there) a project called Dateiüberprüfung which became responsible for at least 90 % of the copyright issues (e.g. deletion requests) for files at German Wikipedia. This project achieved a huge number of permissions and saved many files. (cf. my User page for more information) I am quite familiar with copyright questions like licenses, permissions, FOP, derivative works… not only on German copyright law. But I understand the goal of Wikimedia Commons and it’s guidelines so that I accept of course that e.g. there must be a different policy to the threshold of originality at commons. Until today most of the things I did at commons were deletion requests and till now there was no decision of a commons admin “against” my “vote” ;). With admin-access I would mostly care about copyright issues and try to help Wikimedia commons this way.

If you got any questions: Feel free to ask me (email, my discussion page and I am often online at #wikimedia-commons)! I like direct and open discussions and constructive criticism. :) ...Forrester 23:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Votes

•  Support Absolute trust in this guy. Also FP. Lewis Collard! (lol, internet) 23:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support kaum jemand hat so viel wie er für den Bildbestand auf .de getan wie er mit DÜP, damit wurden sehr viele Bilder gerettet und sind jetzt sauber lizensiert. --Marcela (talk) 23:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

  Rough translation: few people did as much for de’s local repository as [Forrester] with DÜP, which saved many images and ensured correct licensing for them. —mnh·∇· 00:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

  Thank you, my english is too bad fot speak here and it is clear --Marcela (talk) 00:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

•  Support Knowing him from de, Forrester is a hard worker and may at times even be a bit overzealous, but I do believe that he’ll eventually grow into a very good sysop. —mnh·∇· 00:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Aye. Majorly ^talk 00:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Sounds like he'll definitely help us out. Rocket000 (talk) 01:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Looks good to me. --jonny-mt 01:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support My interactions with this user have been positive, as well as the contributions. --O (谈 • висчвын) 01:30, 29 July 2008 (GMT)
•  Support - Seems to be a good fit for adminship and should prove to be helpful with the tools. Cirt (talk) 02:22, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Contributions, and history, look fine. rootology (T) 05:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support thanks --.snoopy. 06:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Thanks for helping. Evertyhing looks good so a support from my side. --Kanonkas_(talk) 08:04, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support - sounds cool. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support; very helpful and hard working. —Giggy 09:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support --S^[1] 11:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support trust him --Matt314 (talk) 13:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Klar doch! Chaddy (talk) 13:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Absolute trust in this guy. Could really be a good help for the commons. --Jodo (talk) 14:06, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support No doubt. --Leyo 14:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support --Harald Krichel (talk) 15:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support geht klar. -- smial (talk) 15:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support PDD (talk) 15:25, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Lies! You are never on IRC! --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 16:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

  I'm invisible to you ;) Forrester [[ hate+love letters ]] 17:15, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

  See!!!! Seee!!!!! The Forrester is a lie!!! --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 17:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

  I never lie Forrester [[ hate+love letters ]] 18:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

•  Support sure thing! --ChrisiPK (talk) 18:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support --Matthiasb (talk) 20:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC) no comment necessary.
•  Support active and established commons user. Bastique ^demandez 22:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support natürlich ein JA! --ALE! ¿…? 08:31, 30 July 2008(UTC)
•  Support - I trust you, but go it on slowly. Marcus Cyron (talk) 16:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose --Complex (talk) 22:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support -- Cecil (talk) 22:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support C-M (talk) 22:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
• support DerHexer (talk) 07:25, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
• support --Szczepan talk  18:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support This is a great reference. KveD (talk) 22:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Kylu (talk) 03:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose! He drove german düp into the forrest and he'll try this with commons as well... abf /talk to me/ 08:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

  He drove german düp into the forrest. What does that mean? Rocket000 (talk) 11:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

  He didn´t drive it into the forrest, but he built this system up. For those, who don´t know what "DÜP" is, please see my comment in the following section. Chaddy (talk) 12:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

  Could you please provide some context for those not familiar with the German "düp" (?). —Giggy 09:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

  DÜP - DateiÜberPrüfung, File checking. A System who tries to sort out Images without correct Licenses etc. It works... in his own way. Some people sometimes a little bit frustrated, because not all is well. At the end it's much good meaning and hope. But I don't think, that what's not worling is the guild of Forrester. For me Forrester is here a candidate like ABF some months ago. We should test him. Marcus Cyron (talk) 00:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

•  Oppose Code·is·poetry 16:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support --Thogo (Disk.) 20:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose Seams to have some problems with Presumption of innocence and is _totally_ cristics resistent. --TheK (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support Rastrojo _(D•ES) 09:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support - seem useful enough :) ..--Cometstyles 11:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Neutral I am leaning towards support, but I'd like to hear more from ABF. John Vandenberg ^(chat) 02:33, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Support --Wildfeuer (talk) 10:11, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
•  Oppose good and nice guy, but in his case, I am convinced that it is necessary to have other people exercise his wishes regarding deletions instead of giving him all the power. Like TheK said, he is a very self-confident user and as a result, some problems with accepting other opinions/critiques happened in the past. --my name 13:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
• Pro Syrcro (talk) 18:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Commons und Forrester haben sich ja eigentlich verdient. Syrcro (talk) 11:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Some words about "DÜP": "DÜP" (short for Dateiüberprüfung ≈ file checking) is a relative new system in German Wikipedia to control the images and misc. files and to find copyright violations. The aim is to rescue as much files as possible (by gathering approvals). If someone finds a problematic file he can mark this file with a special tag. A specialty is that you can put different parameters into the tag to define the problem (e. g. Lizenz if the license tag is missing or something other with the license is wrong). Than the files are getting sorted into daily categories and the uploader is informed automatically by a bot. The uploader has now 14 days to solve the problem(s). After these 14 days, some users who participate the project look after the files. When this fails surely the files must nevertheless be deleted. This system replaced the deletion requests and is much more effective. It´s not perfect but better than the old system. Chaddy (talk) 12:37, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, the context is appreciated. —Giggy 15:27, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm totally confused as to why this is a "bad thing". The "DUP" system sounds much like our current system. Did he break this or something on de.wp? --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 16:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

He founded the system and is still one of the most active project members. He mainly administrates the system but he didn´t break anything (I´m also a bit confused, what did you mean with your question?). Ok, it´s his "fault" that we don´t have any deletion requests for images anymore on de-WP - files which can´t be rescued are speedy deleted afters the two weeks (and that´s one of the main differents to the Commons system - the files are not requested for deletion but for checking and rescue). ;) Chaddy (talk) 16:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok. I'm just confused as to why this is a "Bad Thing"? That is why I'm trying to get at here. Forrester built this system on de.wp - Ok, Cool. It is fairly similar to our own and I don't see any overt problems with it. Maybe this is something only abf can answer, but why does this show that he's not "Admin quality" ? --ShakataGaNai ^{^_^} 17:17, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The System is not made, but used for unclear situations, which results is users getting insulted to do copyvios, because they explaned the image to less... --TheK (talk) 20:42, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

To clear unclear situations there is a special page where these problems are discussed. However I don´t really know what you mean, could you please give me a link to an example? Chaddy (talk) 22:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Some words

I want to thank everyone for your trust in my abilities and will try to better the expectations of the ones who voted for me and to rebut the expectations of the ones who voted against me. I will do my very best to help Wikimedia Commons. But most of all I want to assure that I am open for criticism and self-reflexion and that you are free to write me if you see me doing something wrong. Thanks for your trust. Btw: In the next weeks I won't have much time so that you don't need to fear me ;) Forrester [[ hate+love letters ]] 12:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)