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Categories by name
[edit]Hi, XRay. I noticed that you added a metacat template to a number of "by name" categories. Most of the ones I saw were not actually metacats, so I have changed them to {{CatCat}}.
An example is Category:Writers from Ternopil Oblast by name. This is not a metacat because each subcategory is for only one person. If this were a metacat, each subcategory would be for multiple people with the same name. An example of a "by name" category that is a metacat is Category:Churches in Illinois by name, because each subcat is for any church with the indicated name (see, for example, Category:Grace churches in Illinois, which includes multiple churches with that name).
The "by name" categories can be tricky this way. If you have any questions about this, feel free to ask. Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 07:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your information. I'll have a look to the categories. --XRay 💬 07:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
On a related note, many of the categories you recently put {{CatCat}} on are actually metacats and need the metacat template instead. I haven't looked at each one, but probably all the ones that aren't "by name" are actually metacats. Some of the by-name ones might also be metacats; it depends on what's in them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auntof6 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I had changed the algorithm that is necessary for the division and, above all, restricted it much more. To do this, I analyzed where CatCat and MetaCat are set. When in doubt, I opted for CatCat rather than MetaCat, especially if there was no clear basis for the decision - as was the case with "by name". In my opinion, CatCat is better than nothing, even if MetaCat would be right. --XRay 💬 17:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- CatCat is better than nothing, but why not use the better one? --Auntof6 (talk) 09:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I need an algorithm for the categories. It's made by a script, not manually. The way you explained it to me, there is no single way. I have defined a set of prefixes and a set of suffixes for MetaCat and CatCat respectively. If there are categories with one and the same prefix and suffix that use either MetaCat or CatCat, this is not a distinguishing criterion. I need a clear differentiation criterion for the algorithm. I have now removed the "by name" categories and set neither the one nor the other template there. --XRay 💬 11:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- If I give you a list of criteria that you can put metacat on, would you do that? Here is such a list, based on ones I saw you do today plus a few others:
- architect, arrondissement, autonomous community, borough, century, city, country, country subdivision, county, decade, department, district, gender, genre, location, municipality, operator, patron saint, populated place, prefecture, province, province or territory, region, state, state or territory, town, village
- I have rarely seen those used in a way that would not be a metacat, but all such uses I've seen were named incorrectly.
- Here are some that are usually not metacats:
- IATA code, French/German/Italian/Latin/modern name, registration number, serial number, title
- Here are some that might or might not be metacats, depending on the content:
- name
- I'm sure there are others for each of those lists.
- Also please note: if the category name says "uncategorized by" (such as Category:Buildings in Tehran uncategorized by street), it shouldn't need either catcat or metacat.
- Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 12:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- If I give you a list of criteria that you can put metacat on, would you do that? Here is such a list, based on ones I saw you do today plus a few others:
- I need an algorithm for the categories. It's made by a script, not manually. The way you explained it to me, there is no single way. I have defined a set of prefixes and a set of suffixes for MetaCat and CatCat respectively. If there are categories with one and the same prefix and suffix that use either MetaCat or CatCat, this is not a distinguishing criterion. I need a clear differentiation criterion for the algorithm. I have now removed the "by name" categories and set neither the one nor the other template there. --XRay 💬 11:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Auntof6: Thank you! Today the list of suffixes for MetaCat is the following:
- activity, age, aircraft type, airline, architectural style, artist, association, author,
- background, background color, bedrock topography, borough, building function,
- car number, century, civil parish, class, color, color of numerals, commune, condition,
- date, day, decade, decade of photographing, denomination, depiction, designation, dynastic period,
- event,
- former function, function,
- geochronology, geologic formation,
- height, hemisphere, home port,
- industry, instrument,
- lake, language, line, livery,
- material, media type, medium, millennium, model manufacturer, month, motive power, museum,
- navy, number, numeral system,
- obstacle, order, orientation,
- party, period, place, port, position, posture,
- quantity,
- religion, river, rock type,
- scale, season, setting, shape, size, species, sport, station, status, style, subject, substyle,
- taxon, team, theme, time, tincture, topic, type, type of energy, type of heritage, type of image, type of operator, type of rock,
- use,
- variant, viewpoint, volcano,
- war,
- year, year of completion, year of manufacture, year of photographing, year of photography,
- zoo
- For CatCat it's this one:
- administrative region, administrative subdivision, administrative unit, alliance, architect, arrondissement, artist, association, author, autonomous community,
- borough, brand, bridge, building,
- canal, canton, castle, cemetery, century, church, city, city subdivision, company, continent, continent of location, continent of origin, council area, country, country of location, country of operation, country of origin, country of service, country subdivision, county, creator,
- demographics, department, dependent territory, diocese, district, districts of municipalities, division,
- educational institution, emirate, ethnic group,
- family, first-level administrative country subdivision, former country, former department, former region, fourth-level administrative country subdivision,
- gender, genre, genus or species, given name, government district, governorate, grade,
- historical region, host country,
- id, identification in book, ideology, individual, institution, island,
- lake, language, location,
- manufacturer, metropolitan area, metropolitan city, micropolitan area, model, modern name, mountain range, municipality, museum, musical instrument,
- name of shape, named individual users, nationality,
- occupation, operator, organization,
- parish, parliament, patron saint, people, person, photographer, pope, populated place, prefecture, principal area, province, province or territory,
- region, region or island area,
- ship name, shire, sovereign state, state, state or territory, street, subdivision,
- territorial unit, title, town,
- university or college,
- village, voivodeship
- On the other hand there are allowed prefixes too. I see differences to your list and I'll have a look to it. --XRay 💬 12:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- And it is already adapted. --XRay 💬 13:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know where you got those lists, but a lot of the ones you show for CatCat should definitely be for MetaCat.
- And, yes, there are prefixes, such as months in, and possibly others. -- Auntof6 (talk) 15:03, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- On the other hand there are allowed prefixes too. I see differences to your list and I'll have a look to it. --XRay 💬 12:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Easy. Just this list and a query with
Category: intitle:/ by / hastemplate:"MetaCat"
(as an example for MetaCat). The query is done by a script, so the result is a simple text file. Just a little bit with search and replace and you've got the result. --XRay 💬 15:12, 17 July 2024 (UTC)- Ah. That list is not a complete list of metacat options. (It says right at the top that it's believed to be inactive.) It never included all possible metacat options anyway, and probably can't because new ones can be created at any time. I would say that most things on it would always indicate a metacat, but 1) some of them would never do so and 2) some would be used for metacats sometimes and non-metacats at other times. Examples:
- ICAO code -- wouldn't be a metacat because there's a one-to-one relationship between airports and the code
- IMO number -- wouldn't be a metacat because there's a one-to-one relationship between ships and the number (When you see two different ships under the same IMO number, it's because the ship was renamed during its lifetime.)
- Name -- sometimes a metacat, sometimes not; depends on what's in the category
- Serial number -- probably never indicates a metacat
- Title -- also would probably never be a metacat
- There may be others. These are just the ones I've commonly seen. -- Auntof6 (talk) 15:27, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. That list is not a complete list of metacat options. (It says right at the top that it's believed to be inactive.) It never included all possible metacat options anyway, and probably can't because new ones can be created at any time. I would say that most things on it would always indicate a metacat, but 1) some of them would never do so and 2) some would be used for metacats sometimes and non-metacats at other times. Examples:
- Easy. Just this list and a query with
- Sorry, better results with
Category: intitle:/ by [a-z]{3,}/ -intitle:/ by the / hastemplate:"MetaCat"
- Sorry, better results with
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--QICbot (talk) 05:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Quality Image Promotion
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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--QICbot (talk) 05:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Template redirects
[edit]Just a note, an initial lowercase letter in a template is not a redirect -- it is treated the same as capitalized by the software. See en:WP:NCLOWERCASEFIRST. So, a lowercase template name is no different than a capitalized one (first letter, anyways). No need to change them; it's not saving a redirect. Carl Lindberg (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
neuer Kategoriebaum für Bäume in NRW nach Monat Jahr
[edit]Hallo Dietmar, zur Kenntnisname: Mit Pinales in North Rhine-Westphalia in September 2021 habe ich angefangen nun auch Nadelbäume (Pinales) nach Monat / Jahr zu verkategorisieren (die meisten Bilder in Trees in North Rhine-Westphalia in September 2021 waren Kiefern in der Westruper Heide - um genau zu sein Pinus sylvestris, weswegen die Bilder auch noch in Pinus sylvestris in North Rhine-Westphalia einsortiert werden könnten, was ich jetzt noch nicht gemacht habe). In diesem Sinne kannst Du gerne fortfahren, Deine Nadenbaumbilder enstprechend umzukategorisieren. Gruß anro (talk) 23:02, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Zuordnen kann ich zumindest meine eigenen Bilder, viele Dateien sind es nicht. Ich bin leider nicht in der Lage, die Pflanzen zu erkennen. Zeit fehlt mir für derartige Aktionen auch. Ich muss auch vorhandene Kategorienamen vertrauen. Ansonsten nutze ich jede Gelegenheit, um zu fotografieren ... --XRay 💬 05:04, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Quality Image Promotion
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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--QICbot (talk) 05:27, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
Quality Image Promotion
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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--QICbot (talk) 05:31, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Quality Image Promotion
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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--QICbot (talk) 05:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Quality Image Promotion
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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Your image has been reviewed and promoted
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