User talk:Rogelionazar

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 15:09, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

"Own work"

You declare that File:FormasContrastadasAlbertoNicasio1970.jpg (for example) is your "Own work". But you also say that it's by Nicasio. However, Nicasio is dead, and ghosts don't upload files to Wikimedia Commons. In this context, "Own work" doesn't mean "I photographed or scanned this artwork"; it means "This artwork is by me." Perhaps you possess the copyright for this and other images you've uploaded but are of works of art (or artifacts, or photographs) that aren't by you; if this is so, please contact "OTRS" and explain. -- Hoary (talk) 01:30, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I see. Well, this is a beginner's blunder. My reasoning was precisely that it is my work to have photographed an artifact (an artwork, in this case). But I will figure out the best way to correct the mistake. Thanks again for alerting me. Regards. Rogelionazar (talk) 14:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

As I understand Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Argentina, if you can say precisely where in Argentina and when before 1995 either of File:TallerGrabadoEscuelaNormal.jpg and File:AlbertoNicasio.jpg was published (issue X of periodical Y, dated Z, etc), then the image is in the public domain and you can, and should, label the file with "{{PD-AR-Photo}}".

If File:ObraDeAlbertoNicasioEnElMuseoDelVaticano.jpg is an "Argentinian photograph", then the above applies to it too. (Unfortunately I'm not sure what constitutes an "Argentinian photograph" in this context, but it certainly would have had to be published in Argentina before 1995 and I'm almost certain that the photographer would have had to be domiciled in Argentina or have had Argentinian nationality or both.)

All the works by Nicasio are copyright until seventy years after his death, and therefore may not be at Wikimedia Commons. Here's what I think you should do about them:

1. Remove links to them from en:Draft:Alberto Nicasio, es:Alberto Nicasio, and anywhere else.
2. On File:PuenteAlbertoNicasio.jpg, etc (each of the files here in Wikimedia Commons), add "{{speedydelete|Artwork will be [conventionally] copyright until 2051 (no Creative Commons license is applicable). I misunderstood copyright issues when I uploaded this file.}}". (Of course, reword the text that follows "|" to your taste.)

I could nominate these for deletion myself, but it would be better if you did it.

I regret the time-wasting (and suspect that Nicasio would be happy to see an article illustrated with his artwork), but rules are rules. -- Hoary (talk) 23:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

I understand. But please allow me some time to process all this and sort out the legal intricacies. You see, there are heirs who could be asked to grant permission for the images to be used or released to the public domain. Regards. Rogelionazar (talk) 20:25, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

So, I did as requested: I removed the links to the images on both the Spanish and English versions and nominated them for deletion. I also added a new one in replacement of the others, File:AlbertoNicasio1980.jpg in compliance with the rules. Once the nominated images are deleted, I will upload them again this time with the correct license. Thanks again for your guidance. Rogelionazar (talk) 01:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)