User talk:Joe3

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Regasterios (talk) 12:51, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Licenses

DO NOT REMOVE the template NPD from your files, please!!! You can be banned for many, many days...

If you have problems with licenses, you have to consider a few things:

--> when the author of the photo is unknown AND the photo was published 70 years ago or more, use the {{PD-HU-unknown}} template. If it was published not so far ago, such a photo can't be uploaded on Commons

--> when the author of the photo is known => we must wait 70 years after his death to have his works on Commons, use the {{PD-old-auto|deathyear=...}}, for example {{PD-old-auto|deathyear=1936}} template.

• In more complicated items, contact with an admin in your native language, please. Loot at the Commons:Administrators/hu site. You can write to User:Grin from the Hungarian Wikipedia.

Good luck! Wieralee (talk) 14:32, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Google translate:

Ne távolítsa el a sablont NPD-re a fájlokat, kérem !!! Meg lehet tiltani sok-sok napon át ...

Ha problémája van a licencek, meg kell vizsgálni néhány dolgot: -> ha a szerző a fénykép nem ismert és a fotó megjelent 70 évvel ezelőtt, vagy több, a {{PD-HU-unknown}} sablont. Ha megjelent nem eddig ezelőtt, mint egy fénykép nem lehet feltölteni a Commons -> amikor a szerző a fénykép ismert => meg kell várni a 70 évvel halála után, hogy műveit Commons, az {{PD-old-auto|deathyear=...}}, for example {{PD-old-auto|deathyear=1936}} sablont. A bonyolultabb elemek, forduljon egy admin az anyanyelveden, kérem. Szerezd meg a Commons:Rendszergazdák oldalon. Írhat User:Grin a magyar Wikipédián. Sok szerencsét! Wieralee (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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@Wieralee: This is a way more complicated question than you think. The image (or, rather, lots of images) were credited to "Nemzeti Foto Service" (translates to National Photo Service), and the dates are usually from the 40s to the 60s. I guesstimate that is has been some governmental body from the socialist era which ordered and handled the images. There are two quite big problem for me (at least right now):

• There is zero data on this entity on the internet. Or if there is any google doesn't find it.
• I guess the governmental body was dismissed without caring about the rights it may possibly have held.

I try to gather data on it, however until then we cannot assume that there is legally anyone who hold the copyright of these images, and we do not have any information about their copyright protection. We have secondary evidence to the contrary as these images are used widely in national archives, book covers and lots of other places, none of them crediting anything more than "NFS" and none of them is showing up copyrights. But I'll try to ask around. --grin ✎ 18:25, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

@Wieralee: As a preliminary result I have consulted with one of the Hungarian National Museum Photo Archive managers and she (Bognar K.) said that many of these images (probably all from "NFS") were sent to Europeana archive, and that they only send images which are free from copyright restrictions. She had nearly zero information on NFS though, and she believed they had no legal successor. Probably next week I try to discuss this with the HNM general director, but until then we could be pretty assured that these images are supposed to be free to use (most probably PD → {{Anonymous-EU}}). I would tag them that way. --grin ✎ 09:52, 10 March 2016 (UTC)