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Mr. Gibbs:
Sorry, guys. No --

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The Press:
Oh.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I was going to say, wow.
Is it somebody's birthday.

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The Press:
Where's the jersey?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We're in the process
of getting the hockey

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sweater -- thank you, Major, for correcting
a southerner's -- it's on its way. Trust me,

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the Canadians have kept in very close contact
for this. And we are working on delivering

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that, figuring out
the best way to --

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The Press:
What size is that?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Oh, I'm definitely a medium.
I mean, can't you tell?

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(laughter)

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We'll have -- I presume before the week is
over you will have the opportunity to see

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that. It was a fabulous game. One quick announcement
before we get going. On Monday, March 8th,

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President Obama will welcome President Funes
of El Salvador for a meeting at the White

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House. The President looks forward to discussing
the wide range of issues that comprise the

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dynamic relationship between our two countries,
including economic security and immigration-related

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topics. Mr. Feller.

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The Press:
Thanks, Robert. Can you tell us what the President

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has been doing since the health care
summit to get a bill to his desk?

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Who has he been lobbying?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can look and see what calls he's made. I

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don't know the degree to which he's talked
to members of Congress on this or not.

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The Press:
Is he involved in the discussions about what

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the next proposal
will look like and --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Oh, absolutely. This
has been brought up in

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a number of meetings, both over
the weekend and this morning.

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The Press:
When the White House
calls for an up or down

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vote on a bill doesn⏠"!t that mean reconciliation,
and isn't it one and the same at this point?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, the President
will speak on this

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later in the week, likely on Wednesday. And
I will wait until we have something from the

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President then. I do believe the President
believes that an up or down vote is necessary.

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I think the Republicans could decide not to
filibuster and that would be one way.

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The Press:
And does the President
believe that the American

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people care about process, or just that the
bill, itself, is important, regardless of

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how it gets done? Does he think
they care about this debate?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, Ben, I think
let's understand, first

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of all, the bill that passed -- the basic
health care bill has passed the Senate, it

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passed with 60 votes. So it didn't -- that
legislation passed the Senate with a supermajority,

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not just with a majority of votes. Again,
we'll have time to discuss this later in the

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week when the President makes an
announcement on moving forward.

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The Press:
I just meant on that
broader issue of --

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regardless of how this gets done, does the
President think that the American people are

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watching this and that they care about
the process that Congress uses?

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Mr. Gibbs:
The process in what way?

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The Press:
The process that they
use to get a bill passed,

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that this is --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, I think the American people care about

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what's in the bill. I think that's why you've
seen the President take out a number of things

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that were added in this process in order to
make it more to his liking. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Thank you, Robert. One
follow-up on that and

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then one question on financial reg. Can you
give us any sense of what to expect in the

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Wednesday announcement without describing
what the details are exactly?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think that would be harder to do.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
What should one expect? I mean, what in general

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does the President want to do --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, again, I think the President,

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Jeff, will outline what the next steps are
and what are the -- what's the way forward

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on health care reform.

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The Press:
And does that include a revamped proposal

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from what you guys released last Monday?

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Mr. Gibbs:
This is why my first question -- your first

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question I found it probably harder to do.

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The Press:
All right. Moving on
to financial reg. The

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topic of the Consumer Financial Protection
Agency -- we've talked about it before --

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Senator Shelby has suggested that it be housed
in the FDIC. Is that something that the White

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House would look upon favorably?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, Jeff, I think most importantly the CFPA

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has to have strong independent authority,
an independent head, an independent budget,

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independent authority to do what it needs
to do. That will be the test that we will

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look for as this legislation moves forward.
But I will tell you the President is very

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serious about this proposal. If you look at
-- if you look back over the course of what

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has happened as a result of and what may have
caused a good portion of our financial downturn

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-- subprime lending, credit cards, the easy
availability of credit cards -- these are

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things that the President believes and I think
many believe can and should come under greater

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purview in a Consumer
Financial Protection Agency.

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The Press:
But can that agency
have the independence

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that you're seeking and
also be part of another --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I don't know the
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looked at what Senator Shelby has discussed.
It's my understanding that at some point this

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week we're likely to see legislation unveiled.
We'll certainly evaluate that. But, again,

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our test and the President's strong test is
to ensure strong independence for consumer

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financial protection.

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The Press:
But even without --
just the last follow-up,

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even without commenting specifically on his
suggestion to the FDIC, the crux of the question

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and apparently the crux of the debate which
might lead to this financial regulation bill

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going through is will the White House allow
or support this being in another agency at all?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Jeff, I don't think its
address is the seminal

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test for this proposal. I think we have to
determine whether or not the proposal that's

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put forward has sufficient independent --
is sufficiently independent, can it sufficiently

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make the decisions that it needs to do and
affect consumer financial policy in a way

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that helps -- finally helps consumers, not
just the development of loans and the easy

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availability of credit cards that in
many ways penalize consumers. Jake.

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The Press:
Last month the President
told Diane Sawyer

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that not having the health care negotiations
be more public -- the CSPAN cameras -- was

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a mistake, because he had campaigned on process
just as he campaigned on the substance of

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health care reform. And I'm just wondering
if going forward, knowing that there's going

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to be furious lobbying to get 216 votes in
the House and 51 votes in the Senate, are

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you guys planning on any additional steps
in the name of transparency, whether it's

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releasing names of members of Congress that
the President or Mr. Emmanuel or whoever reach

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out to? Is there anything you guys are planning
on doing in the name of the forum you had

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last Thursday, to continue that kind of transparency
-- are there any additional steps you're

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planning on taking?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I can check. I don't
know the answer to that.

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The Press:
Okay. And then in
terms of the President's

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health report, I know that he was given basically
a clean bill of health, but there was some

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talk about his cholesterol being a little
higher and the smoking cessation needing to

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continue. Is there anything for all the Americans
who are struggling with both cholesterol and

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cigarettes that you or the President wanted
to say about either of those?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, his -- I think it's the bad cholesterol

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measure was slightly elevated from where it
had been previously. I think the doctor had

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told me that obviously he's a few years older
from when it was last measured and I think

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candidly if you asked him the diet of first
and foremost a campaign is not as conducive.

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We are all living and thankfully breathing
examples of that. I think he would be also

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the first to tell you that he has probably
had a few more cheeseburgers and I think he

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would admittedly tell you he's had more
desserts in the last year than I've seen

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him eat prior to this.

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The Press:
Is that because of more
fancy events or because

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he has his own kitchen?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
I would say this, that --

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The Press:
Or it's the smoking --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think that -- look,
I think most people

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will tell you that if it's available you're
more likely to eat it. And I think he's had

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more access to sweets and desserts in the
past year than he -- look, those guys make

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good desserts over there and I think he's
on more than one occasion sampled more than

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he needed to. The good news is the number
is only slightly above where the doctor would

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like to see it. So we were talking in the
-- on the helicopter on the way back that

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he probably had to push away from the table
when the pie came more than he had in the

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previous year. Look, on the smoking, the President
continues to chew nicotine gum and, you know,

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I'd point at many of you and I'd point you
to the comments he made in June of -- I think

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in this room in June of last year, that while
he's quit smoking he is -- occasionally falls

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off the wagon when it comes to that
and -- like many who have struggled

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with kicking that habit.

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The Press:
Is it more difficult because this is probably

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the most stressful year he's
ever had, I would assume?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I mean, I can't
imagine that that helps.

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But, look, I think he -- the doctor -- obviously
you saw in the report -- he, as I said, continues

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to chew the gum and continues to both work
hard at it as well as struggle with it probably

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each and every day.

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The Press:
Who does he bum
smokes from, seriously?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't smoke, Ed, so
I don't know the answer.

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The Press:
Minority Whip Eric Cantor
on health care told

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Speaker Pelosi that if in fact, in his words,
that they'd ram this bill through the House,

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that the Democrats would lose their majority.
Does the White House believe that that's true?

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And is there any kind of sense of the
calculation, the political calculation --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't understand when
you say "ram it through

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the House," what do you mean?

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The Press:
That's what Cantor said;
that's not my words.

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Mr. Gibbs:
What do you think he meant?

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The Press:
Reconciliation -- well,
not reconciliation,

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but simply puts pressure on members to get
this thing accomplished, to get this thing through.

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Mr. Gibbs:
You know, again, I'd
let Eric try to explain

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what he meant. The President believes strongly
that we were -- that he was elected to make

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progress on issues that had confounded and
vexed Congress and the political system for

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years, health care being one of the bigger
ones. Congressman Cantor is probably focused

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almost entirely on the next election. The
President is focused on the next generation

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and making progress on some of these issues.
I sent this article around and I'm sure a

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number of you all saw it in the newspaper
this weekend, and it was about the cost of

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doing nothing. What happens if Congressman
Cantor's viewpoint wins out? "'People think

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if we do nothing we'll have what we have now,'
said Karen Davis, the President of the Commonwealth

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Fund, a nonprofit health care research group
in New York. 'In fact, what we will have is

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a substantial deterioration in what we have.'"
This is not her quote of this part of the

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-- "Nearly every mainstream analysis calls
for medical costs to continue to climb over

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the next decade, outpacing the growth in the
overall economy and certainly increasing faster

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than the average paycheck. Those higher costs
will translate into higher premiums, which

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will mean fewer individuals and businesses
will be able to afford insurance coverage.

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More of everyone's dollar will go to health
care and government programs like Medicare

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and Medicaid will struggle to find the money
to operate." "'It will break all of our banks

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if we do nothing,' said Peter Lee, who oversees
national health policy for the Pacific Business

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Group on Health. 'It is a course that is literally
bankrupting the federal government and businesses

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and individuals across the country.'" There
are more of these quotes, including the fact

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that the typical price of family coverage
now runs about $13,000 a year but premiums

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are expected to nearly double to $24,000 for
a family by 2020. So if we don't act, this

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is what our future is. If we don't act, insurance
companies like Anthem that are sending letters

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to individuals in the individual insurance
market saying their rates will rise 39 percent

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-- that's what will happen. Congressman Cantor
says let's start over, but the insurance companies

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aren't starting over; health care inflation
is not starting over; being dropped from your

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insurance coverage because somebody says
you have a preexisting condition,

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that's not starting over.

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The Press:
Is there any sense
though or analysis from

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the White House that there's a possibility
of losing a certain number of seats either

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in the House or the Senate?
There is a political calculation.

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's not what -- that's
not being discussed,

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"if you do this, then this." That's -- what
we're focused on is trying to move forward

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for the millions of people that are struggling
with the high cost of their own health insurance

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each day. Helen.

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The Press:
I had two questions.
The first one is moot

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now, but why did the President not give any
voice to single-payer and to the government

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plan during the whole debate? The second question
is, why are the Republicans and some Democrats

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so solidly against
everything you proposed?

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Mr. Gibbs:
An excellent question.

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The Press:
They're both wise.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
You're a validator
for that. Look, let me

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take the second question. I was reading an
article before I came down about the fact

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that the filibuster is on a record-breaking
pace in this Congress. We've seen the notion

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of either an actual filibuster or the threat
of a filibuster used unlike we've ever seen

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before. We have -- and we mentioned this on
Friday, we can't even get an emergency extension

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of health and unemployment benefits for those
whose benefits expired at midnight. We can't

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even get agreement on moving forward with
that. In fact, you can't even get an agreement

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with the person holding that up to let
us -- to let the Senate vote on what

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he wants to hold up.

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The Press:
Why don't you shame him?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I'm trying as best I can.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Why don't you use his name?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I did on Friday -- Senator Bunning for Kentucky --

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The Press:
Does he want everyone to run out of benefits?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, sometimes even using their names doesn't

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create the shame that you would think it would
normally engender when there are people that

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lost their unemployment benefits because one
person decided they were going to gum up the

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works. It's just never -- it's just not how it's
ever worked. I don't know why. I don't know why.

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The Press:
Why did he oppose --
I mean, why didn't he

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fight for a government plan?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We've debated this
a number of times --

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The Press:
No, you never do --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I know.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
-- you've never explained. You always acted

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like it was out there --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, I think the President, Helen, put forward

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the plan he thought was
best for the American people.

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The Press:
And he doesn't think
the government plan is --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, I think
there are elements of

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-- obviously strong elements in the exchange
that would set up the type of choice in competition

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that the American people need to get access
to affordable health care that creates a benefit

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and a plan that works best for them. There
were a bunch of different options for this

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and I think the President has landed on one
that not only does he think will be effective,

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but he also thinks has
the ability to become law.

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The Press:
Does he think that Social
Security and Medicare don't work?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I think he believes
they are programs

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that have for many decades worked enormously
well. We've got to put them on a sounder financial

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path, but there's no doubt that whether it
is through measures of senior citizens that

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are no longer either in or facing the threat
of poverty or no longer have or no longer

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face the threat of not having health care
at the time in which they need it most, obviously

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those are tremendously
valuable programs. Chip.

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The Press:
Going back to smoking
-- and I know some people

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think it's a trivial issue, but it really
isn't at all since, number one, he's setting

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an example for an entire nation, including
children. And secondly his health is

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obviously a concern. Have you ever heard him
talk about smoking from that point of view --

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setting an example, the disappointment and what
it means for his health? I mean, it's not

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just his issues,
it's the nation's issue.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Chip, I think he --
I mean, again, in the

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remarks I pointed you towards, you know, I
think -- and he says, I don't smoke in front

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of my kids, I think he understands that what
he struggles with is not a good thing for

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his children to see or for anybody to see.
Look, Chip, I don't doubt that he would tell

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you he wishes once and for all he could wipe
away that struggle. I know he works on it

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each and every day. He understands
-- he understands it.

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The Press:
Do you know where and
when he does it and

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how he manages to avoid the cameras and the
children and everything else at --

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Mr. Gibbs:
You know, Chip, we're all running around here,

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so I am not with
him 24 hours a day.

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The Press:
He said he was 95 percent
cured when he spoke

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about this last year. Is
he still at 95 percent?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Yes. He's --

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The Press:
Hasn't made any
progress since then?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, but I think in
many ways staying at 95

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percent doesn't change the percentage but
is controlling a problem and an addiction

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that I think he's talked about struggling
with and I think, in all honesty, millions

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and millions of people across the country
do. My father struggled with quitting. He

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wasn't as good at sneaking it as some people
have and he didn't quit until a doctor told

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him he had lung cancer. So I think -- again,
I think there's a lot of struggle that goes

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on with this and I think he's
one of those who struggles.

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The Press:
He said at one point
during the campaign that

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he smoked at some point -- I don't -- I didn't
get the timeframe -- five or six a day. He's

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not doing that, is he, do you know?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No. Not that I'm aware
of, no. I don't remember

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when he said that, to be honest.

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The Press:
It was still during the
campaign but he -- he said --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Let me take a look at that, but
that's not -- no. Yes, ma'am.

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The Press:
On health care, can you
-- just another crack

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at this -- is Wednesday about the way forward
on process or is it about the way forward

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on substance?

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Mr. Gibbs:
My sense is it will be both.

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The Press:
Okay, so we may hear new proposals that we

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haven't heard before?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes.

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The Press:
Okay. Does the President feel it's part of

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his job to explain or justify the use of reconciliation,
or to educate the American people about what

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it is from his perspective, given the fact
that of course Republicans are referring to

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it as "ramming" the bill through? Does he
feel the need to kind of provide another perspective

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on that issue?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think he would hope
that that would be the

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cause many of you would take up.

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The Press:
So he won't just rely on --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, look, I'm sure
he'll discuss -- again,

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I think he'll discuss process and policy.
As we've discussed in here, Savannah, and

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I don't want to get ahead of what the President
might decide, but the notion -- I think we've

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spent a lot of time over the past two months,
whether it was on the issue of are we serious

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about creating a deficit commission; are we
-- how and where are we going to try certain

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terrorists in this country; and things like
reconciliation. It is -- it's enormously informative

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to watch a group of people who, to go through
each of these examples, thought we ought to

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set up a deficit commission and a debt commission
-- until it came time to vote on that deficit

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and debt commission and then decided they
weren't for what they were -- what some of

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them were cosponsoring only a few weeks earlier;
or when criticisms about how a shoe bomber

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are dealt with and never get called out for
eight years and an analogous situation happens

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in Detroit and all of a sudden everyone wants
to handle this differently than they said

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they wanted to handle it for the previous
eight years. Then you take the view of something

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like reconciliation, something that has been
used -- it was the vehicle for welfare reform;

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it was the vehicle for the Bush tax cut in
2001, at a cost of $1.3 trillion; it was the

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vehicle for the tax cut in 2003 at a cost
of $350 billion; it is how S-CHIP came to

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be, which is parlance for the Children's Health
Insurance Program; it is how COBRA came to

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be, which provides the ability for an individual
that loses their job to continue their health

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care coverage when that happens. And I think
there are virtually limitless quotes on why

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this was good then versus why they view it
differently now.

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The Press:
I guess my question
was just whether he felt

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he needs to advocate that -- if he feels it's
something he needs to address specifically?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't know whether he'll address it specifically

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-- whether he'll address the
specific hypocrisy or not.

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The Press:
Last thing. Is the
President irritated or

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does he bristle at all about the fact that
his medical report has to be made public and

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the whole world knows about it?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I don't -- look, I spent some time with

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the doctor Friday and Saturday going through
the release of this. Obviously it's important,

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I think, for privacy -- for those that are
concerned about medical privacy to understand,

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as the document related, that the President
had given permission for both me to have a

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discussion with the doctor about his medical
records as well as for the doctor to release

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those -- that memo. The President understands
that his health is more than just something

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that should be of concern to him and those
that know and love him, but that his health

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is important based on the responsibility that
the American people gave him in the election.

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He might not want to explain why he had a
few more desserts last year than he had the

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previous few years, but --

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The Press:
That's really hard to believe.
He's really skinny, you know?

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(laughter)

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It's hard to imagine he's
hoarding desserts back there.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I actually was -- I was
joking with the doctor

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about this, that all you guys think he eats
carrots and celery and there's more cheeseburgers,

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fries and pie than you previously knew.

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The Press:
When Senator Michael
Bennet got a primary

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challenge from Andrew Romanoff, the White
House pretty quickly got out and endorsed

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Senator Bennet. Are you going to endorse
-- take a position in the Blanche Lincoln

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Senate contest?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We support Senator Lincoln
as an incumbent senator, yes.

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The Press:
Okay. And does the President
see a responsibility --

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see a responsibility that he has to help
Nancy Pelosi get the votes this go-round?

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What role does the President have --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Jonathan, the President
helped get votes in

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all the go-rounds. I don't doubt that he will
use the -- do the same thing this time to

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get the votes necessary to
pass health care. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Can the participants
in last week's meeting

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expect to hear from the President before this
announcement on Wednesday? Is he going to

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talk to people on both sides to tell
them what he intends to say and do?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Look, I don't know
whether he'll call each

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and every one of them or not --

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The Press:
Well, not and each
and every one of them,

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but the leaders on both sides?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think he will -- let me check and see what

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the plan is for notification on that.

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The Press:
And is this part of
the agenda tomorrow at

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all? Is he going to talk about health
care reform when he's in Georgia?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No. I should have brought with me -- he will

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focus on jobs and visiting a couple of businesses
tomorrow, and talking specifically about details

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for weatherization and retrofitting as part
of the economic plan -- an idea that we rolled

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out in December, but details that
we'll have more of later today.

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The Press:
Robert, does the White
House subscribe to

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the notion that there's more than one way
to measure bipartisanship on health care?

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Namely, that if some Republican ideas are
incorporated into the bill it doesn't matter

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whether the bill ultimately
gets any Republican votes?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, ultimately
how Republicans vote

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on their ideas is up to them. But, Ed, I think
obviously there's a part on our Web site where

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we posted the bill that shows the number
-- a sampling of the number of ideas that

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had been accepted as a result of the committee
process. You saw some agreement last week

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on additional ideas. Quite frankly, taking
individuals and individual small businesses

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and putting them into a collective pool is
an idea had by many Republicans, which is

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in many ways a foundation for a great part
of the bill that governs individual insurance

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coverage. So I think as the President said
in here a few weeks ago, bipartisanship can't

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simply be none of your ideas and all of our
ideas. That's not bipartisanship. So, look,

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I think whether it's on getting our economy
moving again, whether it's on health care,

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whether it's on energy, I think you'll see
the President has ideas that Republicans have

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said they supported and enunciated in the
past. Whether or not that drives them to supporting

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comprehensive reform will be up to them. I
do think, Ed, and I said this on Friday, I

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think what you saw in many ways, though, last
week, there was no doubt a fundamental difference

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in the regulation of insurance and the regulation
of the insurance market. I think you have

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a plan in the President's that through the
exchange will allow policies to be purchased

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across state lines. The plan that the President
proposed, though, has a minimum standard for

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what that insurance has to entail. And I
think that's important for a number of reasons,

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not the least of which consumers have to feel
confident that when they're purchasing insurance

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it's not something that in fact is too good
to be true. It also matters, quite frankly,

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for the rest of us because those that do get
access to affordable insurance, if their insurance

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continues to not provide them with the ability
to get the treatment that they need, that

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cost simply gets passed to you and I.

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The Press:
I guess what I'm asking,
Robert, is can the

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White House claim bipartisanship
on content if not on votes?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think without
a doubt I can say quite

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clearly that the legislation includes the ideas
of members of both parties in Washington. Major.

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The Press:
Speaker Pelosi said
a couple of hours ago

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that "in a matter of days we will have a proposal"
-- she said this about health care -- "It

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will be a much smaller proposal than we had
in the House, because that's where we can

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gain consensus. But it will be big enough
to put us on a path of affordable, quality

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health care." Does Speaker Pelosi have it
about right -- a smaller proposal coming from

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the President that will put the nation on
a path -- maybe not provide it entirely but

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put it on a path toward these goals?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't think I would disagree globally with

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what she's talking about, keeping in mind,
again, that there were differences between

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the House and the Senate in terms of the viewpoint
of the House on their bill.

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The Press:
Would you disagree locally?

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
I would think globally and act locally.

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No, I don't -- I think
the summary is about right.

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The Press:
It's not an insignificant
phrase -- "a much

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smaller bill." That encompasses potentially
a lot of policy territory, taxation territory,

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spending exposure -- all these sorts of
these -- and a path toward these goals the

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President put out --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I have not seen the specific quote so --

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I can certainly talk to -- no, no, I don't
-- I'm not saying you don't have it right.

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I don't know -- not having talked to her staff,
I don't know what she's predicated that --

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The Press:
Is it fair to say that what the President

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will outline Wednesday will take the place
of what's on the Web site currently?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I think, though,
you'll see -- you're

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likely to see a decent amount of overlap.

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The Press:
Will it be in legislative language? Is this

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going to be the new bill? Since we have leaders
on both sides of Democrats saying, well, we

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don't have a bill right now so it's hard to
get a whip count, we can't really tell you

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if we have the votes or anything because there
is no bill that we're asking them to consider.

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Will this thing that we see Wednesday
be the next thing for Democrats

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and Republicans to consider?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think it will
definitely be the next

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thing for them to consider. I don't -- I doubt
that it will be in legislative-ese, but I

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don't think, to be honest with you, Major,
that -- obviously the broad outlines of --

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leaving aside Wednesday, the broad -- I think
one can evaluate the broad outlines of where

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you would be based on the specificity that's
on the Internet now.

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The Press:
You told us Friday that one of the tasks of

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the weekend was to look at the Republican
suggestions from Thursday's summit and see

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if they fit within something the President
wants to endorse. Can you update us on that?

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Mr. Gibbs:
That's an ongoing process here.

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The Press:
Let me read you a couple of things that Warren

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Buffett said this morning: "Unfortunately
we came up with a bill that really doesn't

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attack the cost situation that much and we
have to have fundamental change. We have to

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have something that will end the constant
increase in medical cost as a percentage of

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GDP." Then he's asked on CNBC, "Are you in
favor of scrapping this and going back to

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start over?" "I would be if I were President
Obama," is Warren Buffett's answer. He seems

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skeptical on the issue of this legislation
dealing with the cost and suggests possibly

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it might be better to start over.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think later in the
same interview, Major,

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he I think speaks probably equally eloquently
if not more so about the notion of doing nothing,

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about the notion of what happens. The cost
of -- as I said earlier, the cost of doing

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nothing on health care -- we know what that
means. It doesn't mean a lot for Warren because

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he's okay, right? But for somebody that lives
in Warren, Michigan, they're watching their

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health care premiums go up; they're watching
the small business they work for drop their

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health insurance. So he says --

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The Press:
He doesn't say those things you said.

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Mr. Gibbs:
He says pretty clearly
in there if it's where

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we are versus nothing, then the Senate
bill is a good place to start.

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The Press:
Right, but he also says
if it's a choice between

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Plan A, which we've got, or Plan B, which
is what's in front of the Senate -- "I would

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vote for the Senate bill but I would much
rather see a Plan C that really attacks costs."

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, I do not think
that the President --

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The Press:
Do you think he's saying what Republicans

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are saying, start over from scratch? Or do
you think he's saying something different?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, because I don't think
that the -- I think

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that Mr. Buffett wouldn't -- I don't think
that Mr. Buffett would evaluate the proposal

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that the House Republicans put forward and
think that -- I don't think that it scratches

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the surface on dealing with virtually every
issue, including cost. It does virtually nothing

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on cost, it does virtually nothing on coverage,
it does -- it leaves regulation up to insurance

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companies. So I think that's why he was --
again, were -- if the choice is between the

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Senate bill and nothing,
he supports the Senate bill.

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The Press:
But the President is
not persuaded by his

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suggestion -- strongly
worded one -- of a Plan C?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think the President is
-- and what has animated

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his actions from the beginning is dealing
with costs. I don't think that -- I don't

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think that the -- I don't think that the last
word on health care will always just be this

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-- will be the legislation moving forward.
I think the President will continue to look

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at ways to cut costs in health care.

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The Press:
Quickly, one last one on financial regulation.

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Does the White House consider it somewhat
of a victory that Republicans are talking

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about a consumer protection agency that may
be in Treasury when for a while that appeared

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to be a potential sticking point entirely?
I mean, do you think you've made some headway

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here, even if you can't get one that has its
own address, its own edifice, its own letterhead,

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if you will?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think, honestly, Major,
what is most important

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is the authority that that entity has. Whether
that is -- if that authority is something

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that isn't constrained by other forces, that's
that the judgment that the White House will

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make about its efficacy. I would say if you
have Republicans like Senator Shelby and others

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beginning to understand the importance of
protecting consumers against various financial

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instruments, I do think that is -- I do think
that's progress. I think this will be --

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this is going to -- many steps to get to where
we need to go. But I think bottom line for

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the President is we have to have a very, very
strong -- legislation has to contain a very

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strong mechanism for protecting consumers.

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The Press:
Thanks, Robert.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Jeffrey.

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The Press:
I was wondering if President Obama was concerned

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about the three vacancies that will be coming
up on the Fed Reserve Board of Governors and

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how quickly he plans to act on all three.

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Mr. Gibbs:
I know that on the current vacancy, our plan

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-- the one announced today -- our plan is
to nominate somebody in time for their confirmation

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prior to the term expiring.

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The Press:
In terms of all three
vacancies, though, I

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think he said he would plan to nominate someone
by June. But in terms of the other vacancies,

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is it concerning the President that this seven-member
board is quickly evaporating?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, look, Jeff, I think
the President will

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seek to have nominees -- that he'll seek to
nominate somebody quickly and hopes that they

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can be quickly confirmed. Obviously we spent
some time and energy earlier in the year working

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for Chairman Bernanke's confirmation, as the
continuity and stability in the financial

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system the President and the economic team
believe to be very important. And I think

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the same can be said for the Board of Governors.

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The Press:
Do you think that this will be a similar difficult

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way forward for you as it was with Chairman
Bernanke? I mean, would he like to hold it

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off until he gets some other legislation through?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, I -- look, I don't think there's -- I

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think, again, our goal is to -- particularly
in the most recent announcement is to get

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somebody there nominated in time to -- and
ultimately confirmed in time to take up the

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seat as the term expires.

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The Press:
On his speech on health care on Wednesday,

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what type of venue is that? Is that like an
address to the country? Is it a press conference?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, it will likely be
off campus but it will

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be in the D.C. area.

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The Press:
In the form of a speech, though?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes. Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Thank you, Robert. Last
Monday you were asked

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twice about the claims of Congressman Sestak,
that he had been offered a high-ranking administration

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position and --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I have not made any progress on that.

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The Press:
Just to let you know,
I was in touch with

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Geoff Morrell from the Pentagon who said there
was no discussion of it at all but Mr. Sestak's

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spokesman, Jonathon Dworkin, said the Congressman
stands by his story. Can you check if the

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White House made any offer?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, I was remiss on this and I apologize.

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The Press:
Can I follow up on that?

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Mr. Gibbs:
There's not much to follow
up on. Let me check into that.

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The Press:
Thanks very much.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Robert, does the White
House see this episode

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with Senator Bunning as something isolated
or is there something bigger that you're trying

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to draw attention to here?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I think what we're
trying to draw attention

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to is the fact that hundreds of thousands
of people who've lost their job and lost their

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health care because of that and their unemployment
benefits -- all of that is threatened because

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one person has decided to stop the entire
process. Again, normally the way this is always

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-- this can be dealt with, they can talk
about this, and it almost -- I can't imagine

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a scenario in which, in almost every other
aspect of life, offering that individual a

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vote on what they propose to do wouldn't remedy
the situation. It's hard to bargain with somebody

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when -- if you say, I won't do that because
of this, and you say, well, how about we vote

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on that, and you say, I object. I don't --
what we're trying to do is highlight the

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fact that because of the games of Washington,
hundreds of thousands of people are without

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the benefits they need to continue
as they look for work. Seems to me

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to be pretty common-sense. Yes.

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The Press:
Robert, over the weekend, Speaker Pelosi gave

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herself an A for effort. Given, though, that
Capitol Hill has yet to pass into law any

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of the President's three key priorities --
cap and trade, health care, financial reform

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-- what grade would you give Congress, and
the Speaker, for that matter?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, obviously as it relates to health care,

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financial reform, and comprehensive energy
legislation, as you mentioned, none of them

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are in law, but understand the House has passed
all three of those. So it's hard to argue

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that they haven't accomplished their end of
that bargain. And I think that's what Speaker

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Pelosi was mentioning. I think if you look
at credit card legislation, cutting funding

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for wasteful defense projects, an economic
recovery plan, I think there are a host of

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things with which the House has played obviously
an enormous role in becoming law, in addition

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to making progress on the President's priorities
that you mentioned.

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The Press:
What about the Senate?

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The Press:
Yes, what grade do you give Harry Reid?

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Mr. Gibbs:
We're working on getting
them caught up. Peter.

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The Press:
Robert, thank you. There's
been a lot of focus

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on the issue of broken government. Does the
President believe that paralysis in Washington

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has reached a point where political reform
might become a worthy -- systemic political

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reform might be a worthy project of his --
for example, where he focuses on, say, redistricting,

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showing that there's more competitive districts
in Congress, term limits, and maybe even changing

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the filibuster rules?

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Mr. Gibbs:
I have not heard specific conversation here

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about the issues that you mention. I think
the President's viewpoint would be -- and

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I think last week demonstrated some progress
on these fronts until Friday with Senator

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Bunning. But last week the Senate passed with
70 votes on a bipartisan basis, passed a plan

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to provide tax cuts for businesses that hire
the unemployed. The House, with over 400 votes

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-- thus in a bipartisan way -- passed removing
the antitrust exemption from insurance companies,

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therefore increasing competition available
for individuals. So as is true in most things

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in Washington, it's fits and starts; it's
one step forward, one step back, or two steps

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back. I think if it relates to somebody like
Senator Bunning, I think what confounds 99

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other senators is when one decides to stop
the entire process while the will of either

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the majority or a supermajority continues
to exist. The comments from Senator Kyl over

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the weekend about the fact that, well, we're
going to get this done -- I think what Senator

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Bunning has done has frustrated a lot of people
across the political spectrum.

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The Press:
Can you fill us in on
the rest of the week

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beyond Wednesday remarks?
And then also --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I don't have anything on
Thursday or Friday yet.

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The Press:
Not yet. So as far as
the Wednesday thing

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goes, will we have a definitive answer on
whether or not Democrats are going to pursue

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reconciliation? Will there be any question
about any of those sort of details?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Again, it doesn't make sense for me to give

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you the President's announcement for
Wednesday on Monday, except to say --

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The Press:
Sure it does.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, I realize I was -- that I did not necessarily

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have a willing room of agreement on that.

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The Press:
I'm not asking what it's
going to be, but just --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think what I said earlier to Savannah, that

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the way -- what he discusses will point toward
not just a policy, but a process moving forward.

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The Press:
So that means -- you think we will know definitively

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-- it's not going to be a question --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I think you'll have a good idea
of how we would proceed. David.

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The Press:
You mentioned those other items that have

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passed on reconciliation. What Republicans
say is those things had some bipartisan support;

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there were Democrats who supported welfare
reform, there were Democrats that supported

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COBRA. This is strictly a partisan deal. What
would be your response to that?

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Mr. Gibbs:
My response would be they continue to move

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the goalposts. When Judd Gregg said if you
have 51 votes for an idea it passes, what

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did he mean? I think he meant -- I think he
meant reconciliation was fine for what I want

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to reconcile, and it didn't mean it if I didn't
want it; therefore pay attention not to what

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I said in the past, but what I said in the
future in hopes of you not catching the

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hypocrisy in my argument.

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The Press:
Are you concerned about Byrd's objections

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to using something this massive, using
the reconciliation process --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, again, understand
this -- the base Senate

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health care bill passed the Senate not with
50 or 51, but with 60 votes. Right? Yes, sir.

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The Press:
Just back on that, just
very briefly, an unknown

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White House spokesperson did say in the
Philadelphia Enquirer -- or did deny what

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Sestak had said three times --

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Mr. Gibbs:
I said I would check
on this. It's hard for

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me to do follow-ups on
something I can't work through.

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The Press:
So at this point the
White House is not ready

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to deny what Sestak said?

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Mr. Gibbs:
No. I think I said I would
check on the situation. Yes.

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the National Black Farmers Association says
this appropriation, the $1.25 billion appropriation

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The Press:
Robert, on another issue.
It's March 1st and

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for their settlement, has not been attached
to any bill as of yet. And they're concerned,

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again, that their monies will not be approved
by Congress, again pushing this whole Pigford

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Suit case to another year or two maybe.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Let me check on where
the process would be

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from our end. I don't -- I can't speak to
the appropriations process on the Hill, but

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let me check on it from here.

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Mr. Gibbs:
Are you kidding me? The
President loves the pastry chef.

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The Press:
Also, on the President's health, has the pastry

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chef been given a mandate -- (laughter) --
no, seriously, though --

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(laughter)

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The Press:
Right. That's the problem. That's the problem.

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Seriously, since Mrs. Obama is the woman of
the house and she has talked about healthy

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eating -- she has a garden outside --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Hold on, let's --

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The Press:
No, no, no, no, this is --

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Mr. Gibbs:
On behalf of the President of the United States,

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let's -- I'll do this. He doesn't look like
me, right? So let's -- I mean, he's doing

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just fine. Let me tell you, I'd love to go
to Bethesda, have them work through and tell

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me that I was where the cholesterol was on
him and what have you. So let's not --

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The Press:
Robert, I understand --

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Mr. Gibbs:
The doctor would like to
see his LDL lowered, but --

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The Press:
And that's the point
-- are there going to

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be more fruits and vegetables in his diet?
The LDL -- are there going to be more almonds

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in his diet?

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Mr. Gibbs:
This is funny. I love this.
You guys thought he, like --

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The Press:
But it's real, it's a
real issue, it's a real

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issue. This is the
President of the United States.

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Mr. Gibbs:
You guys thought he,
like, carried arugula

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in his pocket to snack on, and now all of
a sudden he's -- now all of a sudden -- now

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all of a sudden he's breaking into my office
looking for quarters for the vending machines.

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(laughter)

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The Press:
There are fresh apples on --

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Mr. Gibbs:
"Put the potato chips down."

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(laughter)

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The Press:
There are fresh apples in
the Oval Office at all times.

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I mean, will there be --

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Mr. Gibbs:
Yes, which he eats a lot of. Look, I got to

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tell you, I mean, again -- no, no, he does.
I had an apple today; I can't say Axelrod

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had an apple today.

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(laughter)

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Now I'm getting myself in trouble. No, but,
look, in all seriousness, because, look, I

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think obviously the health report is important,
that, look, again, on the helicopter ride

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back he was the first one -- he said, look,
I just have to say no to dessert more often.

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Look, there's not a -- I don't think there's
a magic formula except just, as he said, pushing

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away from the table before they
put the pie in front of him.

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The Press:
So the pastry chef has not
been given a mandate --

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Mr. Gibbs:
No, to keep baking but
he's just got to use

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a little bit more presidential
restraint, I would say. David.

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The Press:
It's a demand problem,
not a supply problem.

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(laughter)

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Mr. Gibbs:
Not untrue.

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The Press:
Going back to the CFPA, if it's not given

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sufficient authority, is that enough reason
for the President to threaten or actually

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conduct a veto?

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Mr. Gibbs:
Well, David, I don't
want to get that far

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ahead of the process given the fact that we
have not yet seen all of what the Senate bill

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will be. Obviously the House is on record
with a strong CFPA. Look, again, without getting

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into where this thing -- what might happen
"if," I know this -- let me just leave it

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at the President is -- the President believes
strongly that final legislation should and

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must include strong consumer financial protections.
This is something that he outlined earlier,

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it's been through the House, and he's enormously
serious about ensuring is part of the final

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product. Thanks, guys.