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Mr. Carney:
Good afternoon.

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Happy Friday.

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Welcome to the White
House briefing room.

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Before I take your
questions I wanted to note

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that President Obama
today will host students,

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parents and teachers at
the first-ever

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White House Student Film Festival,

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an event that will highlight the President's commitment

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to bring America's classrooms into the 21st century,

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with high-speed Internet and
cutting-edge technology.

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In keeping with his pledge
to make 2014 a year

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of action, using the power of
his pen and his phone,

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the President will announce
$400 million in new

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private sector commitments
from Adobe and Prezi

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to make free software
available to teachers and

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students to help introduce
creative learning

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materials to classrooms
all across the country.

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Adobe is making available
over $300 million worth

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of free software to teachers
and students, including

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Photoshop and Premiere
Elements for creative

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projects; Presenter and
Captivate to amplify

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e-learning; EchoSign for
school workflow;

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and a range of teacher
training resources.

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And Prezi, a software tool
for creating memorable

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presentations, is
providing $100 million

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in EDU Pro licenses for high
schools

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and all educators across America.

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These commitments build
on the $750 million

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in commitments the President
announced

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earlier this month.

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By using the power of
his phone, the President

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inspired private sector
leaders to pledge

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well over $1 billion in value
to America's students

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through these private
sector commitments

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in the last month alone.

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So we think it's
important to look

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at this cumulatively to get
a sense of what this

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President can do using his
authority and his office

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to bring together outside
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on behalf of an agenda that
expands opportunity and,

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in this case, enhances
the education

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of American children across
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With that, I go to
the Associated Press.

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Darlene.

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The Press: Thanks.

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On Ukraine, Secretary
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today that the U.S.

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is watching to see if
Russian activity in Crimea

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might be "crossing a line
in any way," but that the

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administration would also
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judgments about that.

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Can you say what the U.S.

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is prepared to do if
Russia does

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cross that line?

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Mr. Carney: Well, again,
we are watching

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to see, as the Secretary said,
whether or not Russia

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is doing anything that might
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the line in any way.

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We strongly support
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integrity and sovereignty,
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nations to do the same.

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Reports of Russian
intervention in Crimea are

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of deep concern to the
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and as Secretary Kerry said and
Ambassador Rice has said,

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intervention would
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These reports are also
inconsistent with Russia's

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previous statements to the
United States that Russia

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will respect the
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of Ukraine, and they are
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with the obligation Russia
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in the Budapest Memorandum.

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We call on Russia to
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obligations made
under the U.N.

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Charter to refrain from
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against the territorial
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independence of any state.

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We urge all parties to
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misinterpreted or lead to
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at this delicate time.

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The Press: So would
the line be military

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intervention or some type
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of force over there?

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Mr. Carney: We've made
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States supports the
territorial integrity of

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Ukraine and the
sovereignty of Ukraine.

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And we have made clear to
Russia that we believe

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it would be a grave mistake
to intervene in any way.

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We've obviously had and
will continue

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to have direct communications

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with Russian government officials.

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The President spoke with

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President Putin about Ukraine.

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Secretary Kerry had
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Foreign Minister Lavrov
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about this issue.

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And we are conveying very
clearly our views, views

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shared by our European
partners and allies, that

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Ukraine's territorial
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must be respected.

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The Press: It seems as
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may be headed to a place
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it's going to get worse before
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I mean, what is the level
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situation there will get
worse before

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it gets better?

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Mr. Carney: Well, we
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the situation in Ukraine
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We commend the parliament
for the actions that

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it has taken to install a
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and to get to work addressing
the serious economic

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situation in Ukraine.

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We are going to work with
our partners and allies

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and multilateral
organizations to look

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at ways that we can be of
assistance to Ukraine.

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And we have made clear
in our conversations,

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including the Vice
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conversation with the new
Prime Minister of Ukraine,

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both our commitment to
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but also our expectation that
Ukraine, as it tries

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to fulfill the aspirations
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Ukrainian government take
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rights of all citizens are
respected, and that,

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as planned, early
elections take place.

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So we are engaging not
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and allies in the region,
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government, but with
Ukraine and with Ukrainian

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leaders themselves on all
the issues that confront

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that country at this time.

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There's no question that
it's a fluid situation,

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and some of the reports
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are of concern.

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And it would be a grave
mistake to intervene and

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to in any way violate the
territorial integrity

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of a sovereign state
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Mark.

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The Press:
Thank you, Jay.

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I'm sure you saw
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photographs today of men
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patrolling airports in Crimea.

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Does the United States
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who these soldiers are?

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Are they Russians?

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Mr. Carney: I think I
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I just said about the
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of Russian intervention.

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Other reports about things
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in Ukraine are matters that
we're looking into,

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that we're seeking
clarification on, we're

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discussing with Ukrainian
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leaders and others.

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So I don't have -- I can't
go through with you each

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report and what the
bottom-line truth behind

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each report is.

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What I can tell you is
that we're concerned about

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reports or suggestions
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intervention by an outside
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and we have conveyed that.

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And we would point to
assurances by the Russian

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government that they
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the territorial integrity of Ukraine.

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So this is something that
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the highest levels
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The Press: And when
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assurances of respecting
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integrity, when the
President spoke directly

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with Putin a week ago, did
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assurances that he
would respect Ukraine's

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territorial integrity?

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Mr. Carney: At the time of
that conversation, as we

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read out, the President
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Putin agreed that
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de-escalation of
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And I would point you to
the more detailed

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readout that we gave.

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As a general matter, in
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that we've had with Russian
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including Secretary Kerry
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Lavrov, this has been

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one of the topics of conversation.

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And we have conveyed our
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to maintain Ukraine's
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and have received assurances.

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But I don't have a further
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of those conversations.

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The Press: On
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the EPA made an announcement
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a large fishery in Alaska.

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Is that the harbinger of a
number of examples

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of the President using his pen
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to do environmental protection
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possibly with an eye to climate
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Mr. Carney: Well, the
Bristol Bay assessment's

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conclusions about the
significant impacts mining

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activities would have
on the area's unique

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environment -- its
unparalleled

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sockeye salmon fishery and
Native American cultures --

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the EPA made a decision to
take this step to protect

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this valuable resource.

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The White House strongly
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that decision by the EPA.

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The step is consistent
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commitment in the State
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to protect pristine American
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But I would point you to
the EPA for more questions

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about the step that it's
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on this matter.

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Jim.

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The Press: You were
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expressions of these
concerns that you have

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for potential Russian
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What options does the
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available should we
reach that point?

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Mr. Carney: Well, I'm
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to speculate for you, Jim.

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What I would tell you is
that this is a matter that

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we're very focused on --
the President, Secretary

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of State, Ambassador Rice

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and others, Secretary Hagel.

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And we are engaging with
Ukrainian leaders, with

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Russian leaders and with
others in the region

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to ensure that Ukraine is
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in keeping with the
aspirations of its people,

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that Ukraine's territorial
integrity is respected,

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that its sovereignty

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is respected by other nations.

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So I'm not going to
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we might do if something
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We're going to focus
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communications we're
having right now,

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and focus on the international
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The Press: And as you
know, Yanukovych has

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accused the United States
of meddling

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in Ukraine's affairs,

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even
as the U.S. is saying to Russia,

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don't meddle in what's happening in Ukraine.

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Does the White House
have a response to what

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Mr. Yanukovych is saying?

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Mr. Carney: Well, I
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we have made clear that
Mr. Yanukovych lost

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legitimacy as the leader
of Ukraine and abdicated

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his responsibilities.

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Not long after signing
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opposition, he fled the
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in an orderly fashion, packed
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And I think it's also
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the Ukrainian parliament
acting responsibly

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to fill that vacuum elected a
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Mr. Yanukovych
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And I think it's also
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security forces under
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used snipers in downtown
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dozens of Ukrainians.

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I think that goes to
the lost legitimacy.

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So again, he abdicated his
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he left and packed up
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his whereabouts
were not known.

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And the Ukrainian
parliament, which includes

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members from parties that
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society, has taken action
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with substantial majorities,
including votes from

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members of Mr.
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to fill that vacuum and to
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in Ukraine and to move
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to have early elections.

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And that is all, in our
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positive amidst a
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that's obviously quite fluid.

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The Press: And just
to jump ahead

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to the President's remarks this
afternoon, some excerpts

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that have been released
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President is going to
accuse Republicans

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of only being focused on
opportunities for a few,

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as opposed to
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for all Americans.

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Does the President
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And is that a reflection
of what we might see

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in the coming months that
there really is just going

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to be nothing accomplished
up on Capitol Hill, here

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in Washington, maybe
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and Republican leaders?

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Mr. Carney: I think the
frame the President

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has used and he'll use again
is that he is focused

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on an agenda that is designed
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opportunity for all.

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He talks about
this all the time.

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And where he can find a
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a partner in Republicans to
advance that agenda

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on behalf of middle-class
Americans and Americans

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who are striving to get
into the middle class,

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he is eager to work
together on that agenda.

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It is simply a fact,
if you look at budget

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presentations and
policy presentations

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by Republicans in general,
that their policies have

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-- in contrast to an
agenda that is designed

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to expand opportunity for
all -- generally either

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protected or expanded
opportunity for the few.

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And that includes
protecting tax loopholes

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and benefits for
the wealthiest and

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well-connected
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And it includes, as we've
talked about earlier this

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week, the refusal to
entertain closing some

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of those loopholes as part of
a compromise approach

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to dealing with our medium-
and long-term deficit

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and debt challenges.

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So, yes, the answer is the
President will talk about

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why it's so important for
Democrats to advance an

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agenda that's focused on
expanding

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opportunity for all.

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And as he has, and I have
and others have,

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it's certainly worth noting
the contrast,

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and he will again tonight,
with an agenda that's focused

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on protecting the loopholes
and prerogatives

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of the wealthiest and
well-connected and, again,

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expanding or protecting
opportunity for a few.

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The Press: It sounds
like a campaign --

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it's a themed speech.

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When you say "opportunity
for a few," yesterday you

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were saying Chairman
Camp's tax proposal

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had some good potential to it.

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Mr. Carney: And I
noticed

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how Republicans rallied around it.

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The Press: The President
met with Speaker Boehner

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earlier this week,

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talked about immigration reform.

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Mr. Carney: Look, Jim,
obviously the President is

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doing --the President,
like all Republican

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leaders, including those
running for office

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themselves, is engaging in
political events and he's

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speaking to the DNC.

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And he will be supportive
in many ways of Democrats

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either running for
reelection or running for

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office in this cycle.

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In the meantime, he is
principally focused on

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advancing an agenda that
expands opportunity for

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all, that rewards hard
work and responsibility.

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That's what you saw in
the actions he announced

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yesterday at the "My
Brother's Keeper" event.

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That's what he's focused
on today

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in the White House Student
Film Festival.

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That's what he's focused
-- was focused

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on in St. Paul when he talked
about making the

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investments necessary to
create jobs now and build

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our infrastructure in the
future, and as part

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of an approach that would
improve the tax code,

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the corporate tax code,
but use those revenues

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generated by that
to invest

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in our infrastructure.

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So the President is moving
forward on an agenda,

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and he looks forward to
finding cooperative

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and helpful partners

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in Congress among Republicans.

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And we've seen
some of that.

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We have seen Republicans
of late step away from the

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brink, step away from a
tactic and a strategy

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and approach that did harm
to our economy through

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shutdowns and threatened
defaults, and instead come

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together through the
budget agreement,

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come together through the
omnibus funding agreement,

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come together through the
decision to allow the

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United States to pay the
bills that Congress racked

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up.

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And these are positive
developments and we look

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forward to cooperating in
other areas if Republicans

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are willing and ready to
find compromises on behalf

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of the American people.

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In the meantime, the
President is absolutely

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going to continue to use
his executive authority

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to advance an agenda that
expands

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opportunity for all.

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The Press:
Back to Ukraine.

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Ukraine has made a request
to the IMF for about

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$15 billion to stabilize the
country and so forth.

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Can you give us a little
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on where people are on that, where the U.S.

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is on negotiating that?

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Mr. Carney: Well, I can
tell you that we welcome

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the news that the IMF will
send a team

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to Ukraine in the coming days.

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And for our part, we are
considering a range

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of options, including loan
guarantees,

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to support Ukraine economically.

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The next step is for the
new government to resume

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talks with the IMF.

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And as the government
engages the IMF,

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we will also begin taking steps,
in coordination with

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multilateral and bilateral
partners

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and the new government, which
could complement,

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as I mentioned earlier, an IMF package.

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So I don't have a specific
reaction to the beginning

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of negotiations and
discussions between the

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Ukrainian government and
the IMF except that

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we support efforts to assist
Ukraine

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as it enacts reforms
and stabilizes its economy.

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And we will be considering
a range of options

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available to the United
States to act in support

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in a complementary way
of any IMF assistance.

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The Press: Ukraine has
had previous IMF loans.

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Back in 2008, there was
some trouble --

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they balked at some of the
conditions of the loan.

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Does that cloud the
talks this time around?

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Mr. Carney: I would have
to refer you

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to the State Department and
Treasury and the IMF.

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I don't have the history,
the back history on that.

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Jared.

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The Press: Thank you.

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In regards to Crimea, or
in regards to Russia and

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Ukraine, what would
be intervening?

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How would you define
intervention, I guess?

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Mr. Carney: Well, there
have been some reports

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that suggest intervention,
and we're concerned about

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those and we're
seeking clarification.

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We're watching closely to
see, as Secretary Kerry

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said, whether Russia might
be "crossing the line

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in any way," the intervention
line, if you will.

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So I'm not going to
speculate or frame

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it beyond the reports and
the concern

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that we're expressing.

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It's very clear what our
position is, which is that

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Ukrainian territorial
integrity needs

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to be respected, Ukrainian
sovereignty needs

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to be respected, and it would
be a grave

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mistake to intervene.

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So it is our view
that maintaining the

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independence and
territorial integrity of

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Ukraine is in the interest
of the Ukrainian people

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and the interest of
nations

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in the region, including Russia.

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And we are going to work
with all partners to

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assist the Ukrainian
government as it steps

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forward to deal with its
economic challenges,

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and to move forward towards
early elections that would

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provide another future
government in Ukraine

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that reflects the will of all
the Ukrainian people,

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that respects the rights of
all the Ukrainian

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people, including minorities.

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And we're going to
continue to watch the

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situation very closely
when it comes

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to matters of potential intervention.

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The Press: How do you
get to the answer

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of whether Russia was
behind the seizures?

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Are you guys asking the
Russians,

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hey, was this you?

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I mean, you may not
have an answer to that.

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Mr. Carney: Well, I'm
not going to get into the

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ways that we monitor or
all the conversations that

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we have around situations
like this, except to say

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that we're watching
it very closely.

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The Press: And would
this be crossing the line

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if it ended up being
Russians

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or Russian security forces?

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Mr. Carney: Again, I'm
not going to get into

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the individual reports and
what our assessment is

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about what happened.

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And I think there's been
a lot of, even in the

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reports themselves,
contradictory information

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about some of the events,
including the ones that

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have been raised here.

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So I'm not in a position
to evaluate each report

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and evaluate who is
responsible and what

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actually happened.

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We obviously as a
government, and working

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with partners and allies,
and communicating directly

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with Ukrainian leaders, as
well as Russians leaders

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and others, finding as
much -- getting as much

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information as we can
about these reports.

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The Press: Do you know
how long it will

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take to try and get an
answer behind the --

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Mr. Carney: I don't
have anything more

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for you on it.

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Peter.

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The Press: Jay, does
the President believe that

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the Russians are being
aggressive vis-à-vis

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Crimea and Ukraine?

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Without using the word
"intervention,"

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are they being aggressive?

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Mr. Carney: So
it's a different word.

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I think that we are
concerned about reports

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of Russian intervention
or Russian aggression.

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So I would --

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The Press: So who
would check intervention

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or aggression if it
took place,

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the U.S. unilaterally?

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NATO allies?

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Who do we rely on to check
that if they --

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if we do believe they
crossed that line?

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Mr. Carney: We evaluate
this, monitor this, engage

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in diplomatic discussions
about this in a variety of

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ways -- both as the United
States

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in partnership with our allies
in the region,

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and
in direct communications with

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the Ukrainian government and

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Russian government officials.

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The Press: Can you
give us an update on the

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President's consultations
with NATO allies

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on the issue of Ukraine?

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Mr. Carney: I don't
have any Presidential

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conversations to
update you on.

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I noted the Secretary of
State

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and the conversation he had
with Foreign Minister Lavrov.

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I note that Vice President
Biden had a conversation

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with the new Prime
Minister,

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which I think we read out, of Ukraine.

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And obviously there are
communications happening

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in real-time regarding
this very fluid situation.

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00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,467
The Press: Following
up on a couple other

508
00:22:23,467 --> 00:22:25,266
topics we've done -- that
we may get to --

509
00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:27,233
one is, for the President's
speech today,

510
00:22:27,233 --> 00:22:28,399
which
White House aides have indicated

511
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,166
is a pretty major speech in terms of laying out the

512
00:22:30,166 --> 00:22:32,000
sort of framework for decisions Americans will

513
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,033
make coming up at the end
of this year, why at 5:00 p.m.

514
00:22:35,033 --> 00:22:38,265
on a Friday when document
dumps normally take place?

515
00:22:38,266 --> 00:22:39,266
Why deliver it then?

516
00:22:39,266 --> 00:22:40,266
(laughter)

517
00:22:40,266 --> 00:22:41,266
Mr. Carney: I think
that's when

518
00:22:41,266 --> 00:22:44,300
he is speaking to the DNC,

519
00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,300
which is the Democratic National Committee.

520
00:22:48,300 --> 00:22:55,367
And we trust in our
friends in the independent

521
00:22:55,367 --> 00:22:56,966
media to report the news.

522
00:22:56,967 --> 00:22:59,100
So, hopefully, they'll
follow the news

523
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:00,132
on a Friday and a Saturday.

524
00:23:00,467 --> 00:23:01,433
The Press: Okay,
fair enough -- fine.

525
00:23:01,433 --> 00:23:02,433
Can I ask you quickly

526
00:23:02,433 --> 00:23:03,767
about healthcare.gov right now?

527
00:23:03,767 --> 00:23:05,266
Who is in charge of
the implementation

528
00:23:05,266 --> 00:23:06,934
of healthcare.gov right now?

529
00:23:06,934 --> 00:23:09,133
I know Jeffrey Zients is
now working here

530
00:23:09,133 --> 00:23:10,200
as he begins his new
responsibilities.

531
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,000
So who is presently
in charge?

532
00:23:12,467 --> 00:23:13,900
Mr. Carney: Well, as
you know, we actually

533
00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:15,600
announced it; we announced
a successor

534
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,667
to Jeff Zients, and obviously
that operation

535
00:23:19,667 --> 00:23:21,166
is still run out of CMS.

536
00:23:21,166 --> 00:23:25,133
But it is still very much
-- and we talked about

537
00:23:25,133 --> 00:23:30,967
it at the time, when this was
an hourly, not even to say

538
00:23:30,967 --> 00:23:36,667
a daily story, we knew
once improvements were

539
00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:39,166
made and the website was
functioning effectively

540
00:23:39,166 --> 00:23:41,066
for the vast majority of
Americans who were trying

541
00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:44,233
to use it, that there
would be some diminution

542
00:23:44,233 --> 00:23:47,433
of interest in it, but our
efforts and the team's

543
00:23:47,433 --> 00:23:50,200
efforts would not subside
because

544
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,233
the work was so important.

545
00:23:51,233 --> 00:23:53,800
And the need to ensure
that the website was

546
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,399
continually improved and
functioning effectively

547
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,834
through the entire open
enrollment period

548
00:23:58,834 --> 00:24:00,967
would be there, and that
is the case.

549
00:24:00,967 --> 00:24:07,200
And as you know, we're now
on the eve of the final

550
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,567
month in the six-month
process,

551
00:24:08,567 --> 00:24:11,400
and there's a lot of work
that still needs to be done,

552
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,467
and making sure that everybody
gets out there who can use the

553
00:24:15,467 --> 00:24:20,333
information about the
options available

554
00:24:20,333 --> 00:24:22,700
to them is getting that
information is part of

555
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:24,967
what we're working to do.

556
00:24:24,967 --> 00:24:26,567
But another part of that
is making sure that the

557
00:24:26,567 --> 00:24:28,033
website is functioning
effectively.

558
00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:29,699
And given that the website
now, according to the

559
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:31,700
White House, appears to be
functioning certainly much

560
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:34,900
better than it was
back in October --

561
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:35,900
Mr. Carney: I don't
think

562
00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:36,900
it's a subject of doubt.

563
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:37,867
I mean, you said,

564
00:24:37,867 --> 00:24:38,867
"according to the White House."

565
00:24:38,867 --> 00:24:39,600
You guys, as you regularly
did when

566
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:39,966
it was having problems --

567
00:24:39,967 --> 00:24:40,467
The Press:
Fai enough.

568
00:24:40,467 --> 00:24:41,000
Here, let me ask
the question.

569
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,834
Mr. Carney: -- tested
the hypothesis,

570
00:24:41,834 --> 00:24:43,033
"is it functioning
effectively" --

571
00:24:43,033 --> 00:24:45,132
The Press: Rather than
waste time with semantics,

572
00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:46,533
what I'm trying to say is
the website is functioning

573
00:24:46,533 --> 00:24:47,399
much better right now.

574
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,600
Fine, we stipulate that.

575
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,433
I want to know why then,
if the people

576
00:24:50,433 --> 00:24:52,400
who are responsible for that,
these high-tech wizards

577
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,900
who made the fixes are the
ones who are due

578
00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,133
for a lot of the credit, why the
President never met with

579
00:24:57,133 --> 00:25:00,100
them following the fixes
that ultimately put this --

580
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,166
Mr. Carney: I don't
read

581
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:02,433
out every meeting the President has.

582
00:25:02,433 --> 00:25:03,433
What I can tell
you is that --

583
00:25:03,667 --> 00:25:04,934
The Press: Did
he meet with them?

584
00:25:05,133 --> 00:25:07,300
Mr. Carney: -- the
President appreciates all

585
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,466
the efforts of the entire
team that has been

586
00:25:10,467 --> 00:25:14,800
involved in fixing the
problems at healthcare.gov

587
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,899
and in the general effort

588
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,367
to implement the
Affordable Care Act,

589
00:25:17,367 --> 00:25:18,399
which continues to this day.

590
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,667
This effort is not over,
and it won't even be over

591
00:25:22,667 --> 00:25:23,667
after March 31st.

592
00:25:23,667 --> 00:25:25,233
Obviously, that's the
open enrollment period.

593
00:25:25,233 --> 00:25:28,200
But there's a lot of work
that will remain

594
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,200
to be done, and that
work will continue.

595
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,400
The Press: So we don't
read them all out,

596
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,266
but did he meet with them at
some point, though?

597
00:25:33,266 --> 00:25:34,633
Mr. Carney: I don't
have any information

598
00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:35,700
on the President's schedule.

599
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:37,500
The Press: Who is
responsible

600
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,133
for the problems that not
only the federal government

601
00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:43,867
had with its own website, but
the state of Maryland,

602
00:25:43,867 --> 00:25:46,033
other states are having
with their websites,

603
00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:48,433
which are funded by the
federal government?

604
00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:50,633
Mr. Carney: Well, I
would refer you

605
00:25:50,633 --> 00:25:53,266
to CMS for general questions
like that.

606
00:25:53,266 --> 00:25:56,700
I can tell you that when
it comes to some states

607
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:59,266
that have had problems
with their websites and

608
00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:01,800
their marketplaces, CMS
issued guidance that

609
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,399
allows state residents
who are unable to sign

610
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,400
up because of technical
problems on those state

611
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,033
websites to get federal
tax credits if they bought

612
00:26:10,033 --> 00:26:12,265
private insurance outside
of the new online

613
00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:13,266
insurance exchanges.

614
00:26:13,266 --> 00:26:15,133
In other words, the
subsidies available

615
00:26:15,133 --> 00:26:18,000
because of the Affordable
Care Act remain available

616
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,266
no matter how you
get your insurance.

617
00:26:19,266 --> 00:26:22,333
And we're making sure CMS
is working closely with

618
00:26:22,333 --> 00:26:24,266
states to support their efforts

619
00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:25,934
to successfully implement their
marketplace.

620
00:26:25,934 --> 00:26:28,000
And that includes making
sure that those who are

621
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,266
eligible for subsidies
are able to receive them.

622
00:26:31,834 --> 00:26:32,834
The Press: The
criticism of that is that

623
00:26:32,834 --> 00:26:35,000
it sounds like yet
another waiver.

624
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,734
But I'm talking about
money that appears

625
00:26:36,734 --> 00:26:37,734
to have been wasted.

626
00:26:37,734 --> 00:26:39,132
Mr. Carney: I'm
not sure I see that.

627
00:26:39,133 --> 00:26:41,033
But we'll posit that.

628
00:26:41,033 --> 00:26:42,033
Go ahead.

629
00:26:42,033 --> 00:26:43,033
The Press: I'm talking
about money that appears

630
00:26:43,033 --> 00:26:44,065
to have been wasted.

631
00:26:44,066 --> 00:26:48,467
Maryland's website has
already cost twice

632
00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:52,500
what was expected and needs
more presumably federal

633
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:55,767
money or an advance
on federal money.

634
00:26:55,767 --> 00:26:57,734
Where is the
accountability here?

635
00:26:57,734 --> 00:27:00,466
Mr. Carney: Well, I
would ask you to check

636
00:27:00,467 --> 00:27:02,233
with CMS in terms of the
interaction between

637
00:27:02,233 --> 00:27:04,567
CMS and individual
state websites.

638
00:27:04,567 --> 00:27:06,367
What I can tell you is
when it comes to making

639
00:27:06,367 --> 00:27:07,367
sure that every American
who has purchased

640
00:27:07,367 --> 00:27:11,533
insurance under the
Affordable Care Act

641
00:27:11,533 --> 00:27:19,100
is able to get the benefits
that are provided within

642
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,065
the law, that CMS is
working with the states

643
00:27:22,066 --> 00:27:23,400
to make sure that happens in
those states

644
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,400
where they've had problems.

645
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,567
I would also note that
many states have

646
00:27:28,667 --> 00:27:32,500
run very effective exchanges
and websites.

647
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:35,266
And, as I think was
announced a couple of

648
00:27:35,266 --> 00:27:39,467
weeks ago or last week,
California hit its target,

649
00:27:39,467 --> 00:27:42,300
its March 31st target in
the middle of February

650
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:43,300
in terms of enrollees.

651
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:45,966
So that one's working
pretty well, I guess.

652
00:27:45,967 --> 00:27:46,967
The Press: That's my
point,

653
00:27:46,967 --> 00:27:49,967
is that it's all costing more
than it was expected to cost.

654
00:27:50,667 --> 00:27:52,367
Mr. Carney: You're
saying that, but I don't

655
00:27:52,367 --> 00:27:53,834
have any details in front
of me about that, Wendell.

656
00:27:53,834 --> 00:27:54,800
But I would
refer you to CMS.

657
00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:57,100
The Press: So,
Jay, back to Ukraine.

658
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,500
It seems that you're
suggesting,

659
00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:05,200
when you refer to reports, deep
concern for reports of Russian

660
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,166
intervention, you're not
just talking about news

661
00:28:07,166 --> 00:28:10,399
reports that we -- the
United States government

662
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,200
through its other means
has credible reports that

663
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,233
the Russians have engaged
in some kind of activity.

664
00:28:17,467 --> 00:28:20,233
Mr. Carney: Jon, I'm
referring at this briefing

665
00:28:20,233 --> 00:28:22,834
to news reports, because
there have been a variety

666
00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:24,100
of reports, some of them
conflicting,

667
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:25,367
some of them inconclusive about --

668
00:28:26,066 --> 00:28:27,066
The Press: But you
also mentioned

669
00:28:27,066 --> 00:28:28,066
the U.S. government

670
00:28:28,066 --> 00:28:29,066
and our ability to --

671
00:28:29,066 --> 00:28:31,400
Mr. Carney: Well, I was
asked how we verify those

672
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:37,200
reports or test -- or find
out what has actually

673
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,133
happened in these
individual circumstances.

674
00:28:39,133 --> 00:28:41,867
There have been a lot of
reports about activity

675
00:28:41,867 --> 00:28:47,033
involving military
personnel

676
00:28:47,033 --> 00:28:48,533
or apparently military personnel.

677
00:28:48,533 --> 00:28:51,567
So I'm sort of referring
to those reports

678
00:28:51,567 --> 00:28:55,066
and to our concern about them,
and to the fact that we're

679
00:28:55,066 --> 00:28:59,000
watching very closely to
see if Russia is acting

680
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,934
in any way that would cross
the line when

681
00:29:00,934 --> 00:29:03,166
it comes to intervention in the
affairs

682
00:29:03,166 --> 00:29:04,166
of a sovereign state.

683
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,600
The Press: Can you
explain what our national

684
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,132
interest is in the
territorial

685
00:29:08,133 --> 00:29:09,400
integrity of Ukraine?

686
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,066
I mean, take a region like
Crimea, which was part of

687
00:29:13,066 --> 00:29:19,900
Russia until 1950, and
then of course many years

688
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:21,333
part of Ukraine but
under the Soviet Union.

689
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:24,300
Why is it in the American
national interest that

690
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:29,033
Ukraine remain exactly
as its borders are now?

691
00:29:29,033 --> 00:29:30,367
I'm just asking --

692
00:29:30,367 --> 00:29:33,500
Mr. Carney: Because as
a general principle

693
00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:34,734
we support the territorial

694
00:29:34,734 --> 00:29:36,300
integrity of states recognized

695
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:37,200
under the U.N. Charter.

696
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,166
And we call on Russia to
respect its international

697
00:29:42,166 --> 00:29:43,265
obligations under

698
00:29:43,266 --> 00:29:46,433
the U.N. Charter to refrain from
the threat or use of force

699
00:29:46,433 --> 00:29:48,467
against the territorial
integrity or political

700
00:29:48,467 --> 00:29:49,567
independence of any state.

701
00:29:49,567 --> 00:29:53,900
We're referring to general
principles here that guide

702
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:56,367
the conduct of nations

703
00:29:56,367 --> 00:29:57,433
in the international community.

704
00:29:57,433 --> 00:30:03,567
So maintaining or
recognizing Ukraine's

705
00:30:03,567 --> 00:30:05,734
territorial integrity,
recognizing its

706
00:30:05,734 --> 00:30:08,966
sovereignty is something
that nations

707
00:30:08,967 --> 00:30:11,700
have done, including Russia.

708
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:15,166
Russia is party to
agreements that recognize,

709
00:30:15,166 --> 00:30:19,833
including the Budapest
Memorandum from I think

710
00:30:19,834 --> 00:30:22,767
the mid-1990s, that
recognize Ukraine's

711
00:30:22,767 --> 00:30:24,700
independence and
territorial integrity.

712
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,633
And we call on nations to
uphold their obligations

713
00:30:28,633 --> 00:30:29,767
under those agreements
and under

714
00:30:29,767 --> 00:30:30,767
the U.N. charter.

715
00:30:30,767 --> 00:30:32,200
The Press: When you
talk about an intervention

716
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,000
line, which I assume is
something like a red line,

717
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,166
it does raise the question
of, well, then what?

718
00:30:39,166 --> 00:30:43,166
I mean, how much of --
how important

719
00:30:43,166 --> 00:30:44,966
a national interest is this?

720
00:30:44,967 --> 00:30:46,333
What are we
going to do if --

721
00:30:46,734 --> 00:30:48,166
Mr. Carney: Again, Jon,
I'm not going to speculate

722
00:30:48,166 --> 00:30:50,600
about what happens
if this happens.

723
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,399
What I'm going to focus on
and what we're focused

724
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,967
on is what is happening and
what we can do to assist

725
00:30:56,967 --> 00:31:01,533
the Ukrainian people as
they deal with the current

726
00:31:01,533 --> 00:31:03,166
circumstances that the
country is in,

727
00:31:03,166 --> 00:31:06,600
both economically and
politically, and to call

728
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,833
on nations to respect
Ukraine's territorial

729
00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:12,200
integrity, to respect
Ukraine's independence,

730
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,066
to respect the right of the
Ukrainian people to decide

731
00:31:15,066 --> 00:31:18,567
for themselves whether
they want to, for example,

732
00:31:18,567 --> 00:31:20,500
integrate further with
Europe; and to respect the

733
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:26,500
fact that Ukraine has and
will always have deep,

734
00:31:28,734 --> 00:31:30,667
historical and cultural
ties to Russia,

735
00:31:30,667 --> 00:31:33,433
for example; and to integrate
further with Europe

736
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:38,066
and to maintain those deep ties
that are both achievable

737
00:31:38,066 --> 00:31:39,066
and should be achievable.

738
00:31:39,066 --> 00:31:40,400
They're not contradictory.

739
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,800
And Ukraine's
responsibility to respect

740
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,500
the freedoms and liberties
and civil rights of all of

741
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,300
its citizens is a part of
the bargain, if you will.

742
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:56,133
So we are making all
those points

743
00:31:56,133 --> 00:31:58,467
in this circumstance.

744
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,700
And in the meantime, when
it comes to what-ifs,

745
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:04,433
we're focused on making
clear our views about the

746
00:32:04,433 --> 00:32:07,800
responsibilities of other
states not to intervene,

747
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,367
and our concern about any
reports that suggest

748
00:32:10,367 --> 00:32:11,367
there might have intervention.

749
00:32:12,266 --> 00:32:13,166
The Press: Should U.S. taxpayers

750
00:32:13,166 --> 00:32:13,966
be prepared to
support

751
00:32:13,967 --> 00:32:15,834
transition in Ukraine?

752
00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:16,834
I understand there's
support from the IMF.

753
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:18,967
Should we be prepared
with an aid package?

754
00:32:19,133 --> 00:32:20,200
Mr. Carney: Again,
we're considerating our --

755
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,133
I'm sorry, considerating.

756
00:32:22,133 --> 00:32:22,800
Did I say that?

757
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,734
(laughter)

758
00:32:23,734 --> 00:32:26,934
It's Friday
-- just made up a word.

759
00:32:26,934 --> 00:32:28,800
But we are considering
our options.

760
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,200
The Press: It's good.

761
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,000
Mr. Carney:
It's pretty good.

762
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,333
I kind of sounded
legit, right?

763
00:32:31,333 --> 00:32:33,000
We're considering
all of our options.

764
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,233
We haven't made
determinations about ways

765
00:32:35,233 --> 00:32:36,800
that we can assist
either unilaterally

766
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,567
or bilaterally to complement

767
00:32:38,567 --> 00:32:43,200
an IMF program of assistance.

768
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,533
We're encouraged by the
fact that IMF officials

769
00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:48,667
will be traveling to
Ukraine

770
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,000
and that those conversations
will take place.

771
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,667
We think that's important.

772
00:32:52,667 --> 00:32:54,433
But at this point, we
haven't made any decisions

773
00:32:54,433 --> 00:32:56,333
about additional
assistance that

774
00:32:56,333 --> 00:32:57,567
the United States might provide.

775
00:32:57,834 --> 00:32:58,934
The Press: And then a
quick political question.

776
00:32:58,934 --> 00:33:02,633
Harry Reid, of course, is
the top-ranked Democrat

777
00:33:02,633 --> 00:33:06,300
in Congress; took to the
Senate floor to denounce

778
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:08,667
the Koch brothers for --
accusing them

779
00:33:08,667 --> 00:33:11,533
of trying to buy America.

780
00:33:11,533 --> 00:33:15,533
And he said they are
about "as un-American"

781
00:33:15,533 --> 00:33:18,000
as anybody -- "as anyone
I can imagine."

782
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,834
What does the President
make of the top Democratic

783
00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:24,967
leader basically talking
about un-American

784
00:33:24,967 --> 00:33:26,467
activities on
the Senate floor?

785
00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,200
Mr. Carney: I didn't
see that report and I

786
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,600
haven't talked to the
President about it,

787
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,500
so I don't really
have a response.

788
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,133
The Press: Does the
President consider the

789
00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:34,867
Koch brothers un-American?

790
00:33:34,867 --> 00:33:36,133
Mr. Carney: I haven't
talked

791
00:33:36,133 --> 00:33:37,800
to him about the Koch brothers.

792
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:43,966
I think that in general
-- because of the context

793
00:33:43,967 --> 00:33:47,300
here, we have seen again
and again efforts

794
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:50,867
to highlight individuals who
have had problems with the

795
00:33:50,867 --> 00:33:53,265
Affordable Care Act, and
again and again reporters

796
00:33:53,266 --> 00:33:58,333
have discovered that, in
fact, the circumstances

797
00:33:58,333 --> 00:34:00,600
are not as they're being
presented by either

798
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,399
outside groups
or Republicans.

799
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,400
And I think
that's important.

800
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,734
And the work that's being
done by reporters is

801
00:34:06,734 --> 00:34:10,199
important in making sure
the whole story is told.

802
00:34:10,833 --> 00:34:13,000
We saw that with the
rebuttal

803
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,500
to the State of the Union
address, when somebody

804
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,000
who was highlighted as having
problems with the

805
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,400
Affordable Care Act, when
reporters dug into that

806
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,900
they found the
circumstances to be

807
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:25,767
different from what had
been presented, and also

808
00:34:25,766 --> 00:34:27,533
the fact that the
congresswoman's office

809
00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:30,266
hadn't even -- if you
represent a constituency

810
00:34:30,266 --> 00:34:32,867
in Congress and there's
been a law that's been

811
00:34:32,867 --> 00:34:35,734
passed, that's been upheld
by the Supreme Court,

812
00:34:35,734 --> 00:34:37,533
that's being implemented
that provides benefits

813
00:34:37,533 --> 00:34:40,299
to your constituents, whether
you agree with the law

814
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:42,333
or not, you would think you
would be assisting your

815
00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:44,667
constituents in getting

816
00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:45,900
the benefits available to them.

817
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:47,533
The Press: But I'm
trying to get to this

818
00:34:47,533 --> 00:34:48,766
highly charged language
of calling political

819
00:34:48,766 --> 00:34:49,399
opponents un-American --

820
00:34:49,632 --> 00:34:50,466
Mr. Carney: Again,
I haven't seen --

821
00:34:50,734 --> 00:34:52,600
The Press: Forget
what Reid said.

822
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,799
Does the White House
endorse that

823
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,533
kind of language aimed at
political opponents?

824
00:34:55,533 --> 00:34:55,734
Mr. Carney: I'm not
going

825
00:34:55,734 --> 00:34:58,933
to talk about a hypothetical.

826
00:34:58,934 --> 00:34:59,967
I haven't seen the report.

827
00:34:59,967 --> 00:35:03,867
What I can say is
certainly some of the

828
00:35:03,867 --> 00:35:08,433
assertions that have been
made in general about the

829
00:35:08,433 --> 00:35:11,000
Affordable Care Act have
been proven

830
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,433
to be wrong by your colleagues.

831
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,000
The Press: So are
you suggesting it's

832
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
un-American to make
assertions

833
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,300
that are proved wrong?

834
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:18,700
That's clearly the
language

835
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,000
that you just said.

836
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:20,767
He asked you --

837
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,333
Mr. Carney: No, Neil,
you're misrepresenting

838
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:24,000
entirely what I said, so
why don't

839
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:24,667
you stick to that.

840
00:35:25,567 --> 00:35:26,500
The Press: No -- he
said it's something

841
00:35:26,500 --> 00:35:27,834
un-American, and you say,
no,

842
00:35:27,834 --> 00:35:28,734
I'm not answering that, but there is this.

843
00:35:28,734 --> 00:35:31,266
So is there a suggestion
-- are you making any

844
00:35:31,266 --> 00:35:33,433
suggestion whatsoever
that to disagree

845
00:35:33,433 --> 00:35:34,934
with the administration and
be wrong

846
00:35:34,934 --> 00:35:36,433
is somehow un-American?

847
00:35:36,433 --> 00:35:37,934
Mr. Carney:
No, I'm not.

848
00:35:37,934 --> 00:35:40,033
Yes, Major.

849
00:35:40,033 --> 00:35:41,834
The Press: I'm want to
ask you about something

850
00:35:41,834 --> 00:35:44,066
that the Office of the
Actuary of CMS put out

851
00:35:44,066 --> 00:35:45,600
last Friday about the
effect

852
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,000
of the Affordable
Care Act on small businesses.

853
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,200
They put on a report -
and I'll quote from it

854
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,433
directly -- using the
community ratings

855
00:35:53,433 --> 00:35:56,033
provision requiring a
higher level of quality

856
00:35:56,033 --> 00:35:59,400
of health care for small
businesses that don't

857
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,533
provide it and didn't
provide it before.

858
00:36:01,533 --> 00:36:03,366
Directly from their
report: "We are estimating

859
00:36:03,367 --> 00:36:06,133
that 65 percent of the
small firms are expected

860
00:36:06,133 --> 00:36:09,466
to experience increases in
their premium rates while

861
00:36:09,467 --> 00:36:11,767
the remaining 35 percent
are anticipated

862
00:36:11,767 --> 00:36:13,165
to have rate reductions."

863
00:36:13,166 --> 00:36:15,800
It goes on to say, "This
results in roughly 11

864
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,767
million individuals whose
premiums are estimated

865
00:36:17,767 --> 00:36:20,466
to be higher as a result
of the ACA

866
00:36:20,467 --> 00:36:21,867
and about 6 million individuals

867
00:36:21,867 --> 00:36:25,300
who are estimated to have lower premiums."

868
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:27,400
Does this mean that for
a certain segment

869
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,266
of Americans, as identified
by the Office of the

870
00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:32,200
Actuary, they're going to
be paying more for the

871
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,033
health care that they had
before,

872
00:36:34,033 --> 00:36:37,333
and that in some respects does
not align with the President's

873
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:39,867
overall commitment that
the ACA would deliver

874
00:36:39,867 --> 00:36:41,166
lower health care costs?

875
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,834
Mr. Carney: Well, first
of all, I think -- and I

876
00:36:43,834 --> 00:36:46,567
answered questions about
this earlier in the week

877
00:36:46,567 --> 00:36:48,600
-- that analysis looked
at the impact of only one

878
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,133
provision of the ACA; it
did not look at the impact

879
00:36:51,133 --> 00:36:54,000
of subsidies and other
provisions within the ACA.

880
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,000
The reports states the
premiums are anticipated

881
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,700
to stay same in average,
and it finds that before

882
00:36:58,700 --> 00:37:01,066
the Affordable Care Act,
65 percent of these firms

883
00:37:01,066 --> 00:37:04,133
were paying below average
and 35 percent were paying

884
00:37:04,133 --> 00:37:06,466
above average because
insurers were allowed

885
00:37:06,467 --> 00:37:08,867
to discriminate against small
employers who had

886
00:37:08,867 --> 00:37:10,633
an employee with a serious
illness

887
00:37:10,633 --> 00:37:11,799
or more women than men.

888
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,300
In other words,
discriminate against

889
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,266
an employer because they
felt that women

890
00:37:16,266 --> 00:37:18,300
could be charged double, for
example, than men.

891
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,500
They can't do that
anymore, which I think is

892
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,400
the appropriate thing,
because now everyone

893
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,400
will be in the same pool.

894
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,200
And that kind of
discrimination

895
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,933
is no longer allowed under the
Affordable Care Act.

896
00:37:27,934 --> 00:37:30,200
So when you look at the
law as a whole, several

897
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,533
studies have found that
the ACA will help make

898
00:37:32,533 --> 00:37:34,667
coverage more affordable
for people

899
00:37:34,667 --> 00:37:36,467
who get their health insurance
through their job.

900
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,399
So we talked about this
earlier in the week, but

901
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,734
it doesn't take into
account all these other

902
00:37:43,734 --> 00:37:45,266
provisions within the
Affordable Care Act that

903
00:37:45,266 --> 00:37:48,233
actually lowers costs;
tax credits for small

904
00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:50,734
businesses; the medical
loss ratio provision,

905
00:37:50,734 --> 00:37:53,100
which requires insurers to
spend at least 80 percent

906
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:54,866
of their premiums on
health care and not

907
00:37:54,867 --> 00:37:57,700
overhead, or
administrative costs

908
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:01,399
or CEO salaries; rate review,
which requires insurers

909
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,900
to publicly justify premium
increases of 10 percent

910
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:08,700
of more; the additional
purchasing power that

911
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:10,033
businesses get, small
businesses,

912
00:38:10,033 --> 00:38:11,700
through the marketplace, because
they're allowed

913
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:13,899
to band together and get the
same leverage

914
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:14,934
as small businesses.

915
00:38:14,934 --> 00:38:17,700
And then, the ACA has
brought more competition

916
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:18,399
between issuers.

917
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,500
The ACA increases
transparency and levels

918
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,934
the playing field among
insurers so that employers

919
00:38:23,934 --> 00:38:25,734
and individuals can have
clear information

920
00:38:25,734 --> 00:38:27,299
on the products being offered.

921
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:29,200
That means issuers have
to compete on price and

922
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,799
quality, which in turn
drives premiums down.

923
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,834
But as a general matter --

924
00:38:33,834 --> 00:38:35,000
The Press: -- your
argument

925
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,300
is that this phenomenon will not occur?

926
00:38:36,533 --> 00:38:37,600
Mr. Carney: -- they took
one provision

927
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,000
of the Affordable Care Act,
and looked at it --

928
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,500
The Press: As they
said, they were asked

929
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,433
to look at three provisions;

930
00:38:41,433 --> 00:38:42,900
two were not relevant and one was.

931
00:38:43,066 --> 00:38:43,834
Mr. Carney: Two were
not relevant and one was,

932
00:38:43,834 --> 00:38:45,966
so they looked at that one
provision, ruling out all

933
00:38:45,967 --> 00:38:48,300
the other provisions that
actually mitigate the

934
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:51,266
effect that they
reported on.

935
00:38:51,266 --> 00:38:52,734
And they took that one
provision and said, what

936
00:38:52,734 --> 00:38:55,299
effect does that
provision have.

937
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,500
And if you then don't
isolate that out and look

938
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,300
at the overall impact, as
other outside analysts

939
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:07,000
have done, you see that
the ACA will help make

940
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,467
coverage more affordable
for Americans.

941
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:11,600
The Press: I know you
are rooted to the talking

942
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,667
points presented on
Ukraine,

943
00:39:12,667 --> 00:39:15,299
but I want to try one more time on this.

944
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:18,400
You often tell us to
evaluate not just words

945
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,800
but actions of
governments, of this

946
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,600
administration, of
political opponents.

947
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,866
There have been a lot of
words exchanged between

948
00:39:25,867 --> 00:39:27,900
the Secretary of State and
Lavrov all this week, and

949
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:28,867
there were words exchanged
between the President

950
00:39:28,867 --> 00:39:29,734
and Vladimir Putin last week.

951
00:39:29,734 --> 00:39:32,266
In the main, would you say
the actions

952
00:39:32,266 --> 00:39:37,066
on the ground in Ukraine
had been consistent with Russian

953
00:39:37,066 --> 00:39:38,966
cooperation and consistent
with

954
00:39:38,967 --> 00:39:41,800
the words expressed in this
administration or not?

955
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,800
Mr. Carney: Well, Major,
again, you're --

956
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,500
we've had very blunt and direct
conversations with our

957
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:51,900
Russian counterparts on
this matter, and we've had

958
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:55,834
a lot of conversations
with other counterparts

959
00:39:55,834 --> 00:39:57,200
across the region,
including --

960
00:39:57,767 --> 00:39:59,232
The Press: If you look
at Secretary Kerry's words

961
00:39:59,233 --> 00:40:01,433
today, he appears to be
frustrated;

962
00:40:01,433 --> 00:40:04,000
that what we're communicating is
not getting through,

963
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,834
and there is more concern of
things being misinterpreted and

964
00:40:07,834 --> 00:40:10,200
actions being taken that
could be misconstrued

965
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,633
and that could turn this into
a much more volatile

966
00:40:12,633 --> 00:40:13,834
situation than
it already is.

967
00:40:13,834 --> 00:40:15,466
Mr. Carney: Well, the
second part

968
00:40:15,467 --> 00:40:16,667
is definitely true.

969
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:20,500
We are concerned about
actions that might be

970
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:24,033
taken that could be
misunderstood and that

971
00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:28,967
could lead to very
problematic consequences.

972
00:40:28,967 --> 00:40:33,867
And that's why we're
calling on all parties

973
00:40:33,867 --> 00:40:37,166
to be cautious in how they
deal with this situation,

974
00:40:37,166 --> 00:40:38,433
and we're making clear
our views

975
00:40:38,433 --> 00:40:41,834
that Ukrainian territorial
integrity has to be respected.

976
00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:47,266
So when it comes to
reports about potential

977
00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:49,000
intervention, we're
concerned about them,

978
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,734
and we're making clear that
intervention

979
00:40:50,734 --> 00:40:52,133
would be a grave mistake.

980
00:40:52,133 --> 00:40:54,500
And we're watching very
closely,

981
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,000
as Secretary Kerry said, to see whether

982
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,100
or not Russia is crossing the line.

983
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:03,467
But this is certainly a
challenging situation

984
00:41:03,467 --> 00:41:05,667
and one that we're
watching closely.

985
00:41:05,667 --> 00:41:06,667
Jared.

986
00:41:07,967 --> 00:41:10,300
The Press: This
wasn't asked yesterday.

987
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,934
What, if any, reaction
does the President have to

988
00:41:13,934 --> 00:41:18,467
the veto by Governor
Brewer of SB1062?

989
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,366
Mr. Carney: As I've noted,
we don't weigh

990
00:41:22,367 --> 00:41:24,767
in as a rule on every piece
of legislation under

991
00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:27,332
consideration, but the
President does believe

992
00:41:27,333 --> 00:41:29,133
that Governor Brewer did
the right thing

993
00:41:29,133 --> 00:41:30,899
by vetoing this bill.

994
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,165
The Press: And you
mentioned the President's

995
00:41:34,166 --> 00:41:38,066
travel to Texas in April.

996
00:41:38,066 --> 00:41:40,066
Has the President -- I
know you won't

997
00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:42,834
read out the future travel
schedule, so has the

998
00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:46,399
President expressed any
enthusiasm or desire to

999
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,867
visit another Presidential
library,

1000
00:41:47,867 --> 00:41:50,000
the George
W. Bush Presidential Library,

1001
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:54,433
which will be focusing an exhibit of his artwork

1002
00:41:54,433 --> 00:41:55,433
starting in April?

1003
00:41:55,433 --> 00:41:58,266
Mr. Carney: Well, as you
know, President Obama

1004
00:41:58,266 --> 00:42:01,367
was there for the opening
of the George W. Bush

1005
00:42:01,367 --> 00:42:03,600
Presidential library,
an event he enjoyed very

1006
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,533
much, which included
a private tour of the

1007
00:42:07,533 --> 00:42:10,567
library, conducted by

1008
00:42:10,567 --> 00:42:14,133
President George
W. Bush and included, obviously,

1009
00:42:14,133 --> 00:42:16,500
former President George H. W. Bush

1010
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,333
and former President
Clinton,

1011
00:42:18,333 --> 00:42:19,433
former President Carter.

1012
00:42:19,433 --> 00:42:21,667
It was a terrific event,
and the President

1013
00:42:21,667 --> 00:42:23,299
enjoyed it very much, he
spoke at that event.

1014
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:25,266
And then, as you know,
President George W. Bush

1015
00:42:25,266 --> 00:42:27,533
and former First Lady
Laura Bush joined the

1016
00:42:27,533 --> 00:42:29,799
President on Air Force
One,

1017
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:37,600
and the President
very much enjoyed being able

1018
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,366
to see some of the art that
President Bush has worked on.

1019
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:42,567
The Press: But he's
gotten a soupçon of the

1020
00:42:42,567 --> 00:42:43,633
art; he hasn't
seen the full --

1021
00:42:43,834 --> 00:42:44,834
Mr. Carney:
I'm sorry, what?

1022
00:42:44,834 --> 00:42:45,033
(laughter)

1023
00:42:45,033 --> 00:42:46,033
The Press: -- the
full exhibit of the --

1024
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,667
Mr. Carney: Merci.

1025
00:42:46,667 --> 00:42:49,734
(laughter)

1026
00:42:50,300 --> 00:42:52,900
The Press: Is he at
all desirous

1027
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:55,200
to see the full exhibit once
it's on display?

1028
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,133
Mr. Carney: Well, I
don't have any travel

1029
00:43:00,133 --> 00:43:00,933
announcements to make.

1030
00:43:00,934 --> 00:43:07,734
I mean, I'm a layperson;
I'm not an art expert.

1031
00:43:07,967 --> 00:43:11,700
But I'm pretty impressed
by the former

1032
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:16,533
President's work, and I think
it's fascinating.

1033
00:43:16,533 --> 00:43:21,000
And if there is -- I
didn't know he was making

1034
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,967
an exhibit out of it at
the library, but I think

1035
00:43:22,967 --> 00:43:26,700
that would only add value
and interest

1036
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,866
to visiting the library.

1037
00:43:28,867 --> 00:43:31,066
Chris.

1038
00:43:31,066 --> 00:43:32,834
The Press: Given the
national outcry over that

1039
00:43:32,834 --> 00:43:34,866
bill, including from
business leaders, both

1040
00:43:34,867 --> 00:43:37,266
Republican senators from
Arizona, Mitt Romney,

1041
00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:39,100
Newt Gingrich, does the
President see a window

1042
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,633
of opportunity to make
a statement against

1043
00:43:40,633 --> 00:43:42,500
discrimination by signing
an executive

1044
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:43,800
order protecting LGBT workers?

1045
00:43:44,834 --> 00:43:47,667
Mr. Carney: I don't
have any update

1046
00:43:47,667 --> 00:43:48,667
on that matter.

1047
00:43:48,667 --> 00:43:53,667
We, of course, hope very
much that further action

1048
00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:56,000
will be taken in Congress
on the Employment

1049
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,433
Non-Discrimination Act, a
bill that if it became law

1050
00:44:00,433 --> 00:44:03,233
would be far more
comprehensive

1051
00:44:03,233 --> 00:44:04,800
in its effect.

1052
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,967
But as a general matter --
and I said this when asked

1053
00:44:06,967 --> 00:44:11,166
about the Arizona bill
last week --

1054
00:44:11,166 --> 00:44:14,300
that the President believes that
all Americans regardless

1055
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:16,667
of sexual orientation or
gender identity should

1056
00:44:16,667 --> 00:44:18,232
be treated fairly and
equally,

1057
00:44:18,233 --> 00:44:19,633
with dignity and respect.

1058
00:44:20,734 --> 00:44:24,433
And it was gratifying to
see Americans from all

1059
00:44:24,433 --> 00:44:26,667
walks of life, including
business leaders,

1060
00:44:26,667 --> 00:44:29,066
faith leaders regardless of
party speak

1061
00:44:29,066 --> 00:44:30,066
out against this measure.

1062
00:44:30,066 --> 00:44:32,200
And it's further evidence
that the American people

1063
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,799
fundamentally
believe in equality.

1064
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,000
And it's time to get on
the right side of history.

1065
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,433
I mean, I've mentioned
before,

1066
00:44:39,433 --> 00:44:45,133
and I think we all note with
pride and amazement the progress

1067
00:44:45,133 --> 00:44:48,533
that this country has made
on these issues

1068
00:44:48,533 --> 00:44:49,767
in recent years.

1069
00:44:49,767 --> 00:44:53,966
And I think this veto
reflects on that progress

1070
00:44:53,967 --> 00:44:56,233
and on the sentiment of
the American people.

1071
00:44:56,834 --> 00:44:58,433
The Press: But if you
agree that this veto

1072
00:44:58,433 --> 00:45:04,567
is a symbol of that progress,
isn't an executive order

1073
00:45:04,567 --> 00:45:06,900
a more immediate step to
take advantage of this

1074
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:10,533
opportunity, as opposed to
encouraging Congress

1075
00:45:10,533 --> 00:45:11,467
to take action, which would
take a longer

1076
00:45:11,467 --> 00:45:12,000
amount of time?

1077
00:45:12,467 --> 00:45:13,533
Mr. Carney: Well,
again, I don't have any

1078
00:45:13,533 --> 00:45:16,133
new information to provide
to you

1079
00:45:16,133 --> 00:45:18,633
on a hypothetical executive order.

1080
00:45:18,633 --> 00:45:20,700
What I can tell you is we
do support legislation

1081
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:27,399
that would enshrine in law
the non-discrimination

1082
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,867
approach the President
believes is the right

1083
00:45:28,867 --> 00:45:29,867
approach for the country.

1084
00:45:29,867 --> 00:45:30,867
Victoria.

1085
00:45:31,767 --> 00:45:34,332
The Press: You said
that it would be a grave

1086
00:45:34,333 --> 00:45:37,700
mistake for Russia to
cross the line with regard

1087
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:40,600
to intervention in Crimea.

1088
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,633
Is there a reality, a
political reality that

1089
00:45:43,633 --> 00:45:47,299
there would not be a
political consequence for

1090
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:52,200
Russia to cross that line,
given their size and their

1091
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,633
significance as a country?

1092
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:57,000
Mr. Carney: Victoria,
that's another way of

1093
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,033
asking me what would or
wouldn't happen if that

1094
00:46:02,033 --> 00:46:04,165
grave mistake
were committed.

1095
00:46:04,166 --> 00:46:08,133
And I think I'm not going
to speculate except to

1096
00:46:08,133 --> 00:46:11,834
point to our concern, to
point to our strongly held

1097
00:46:11,834 --> 00:46:15,399
view that it would be a
grave mistake to intervene

1098
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,767
and to point to the fact
that we would not be alone

1099
00:46:17,767 --> 00:46:18,767
in holding that view.

1100
00:46:20,633 --> 00:46:23,066
But beyond that, I'm not
going to speculate about

1101
00:46:23,066 --> 00:46:27,799
what might happen if
actions were taken that

1102
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,800
cross that line.

1103
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:30,100
The Press: There's
supposed to be a U.N.

1104
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:33,266
Security Council
meeting on Ukraine.

1105
00:46:33,266 --> 00:46:34,834
Given that Russia
is on the U.N.

1106
00:46:34,834 --> 00:46:37,799
Security Council, do you
hold out any hope for any

1107
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,900
kind of resolution
condemning

1108
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:39,900
what's going on?

1109
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:41,767
Mr. Carney: Well, I'm
not aware of what specific

1110
00:46:41,767 --> 00:46:43,133
action, if any,

1111
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:45,100
the Security Council is contemplating.

1112
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:48,033
I would refer you to our
representation at the

1113
00:46:48,033 --> 00:46:51,165
United Nations for
Ambassador Power's

1114
00:46:51,166 --> 00:46:52,166
view on that action.

1115
00:46:52,166 --> 00:46:53,166
Anybody else?

1116
00:46:53,166 --> 00:46:54,166
Fred?

1117
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,633
The Press:
Yes thanks, Jay.

1118
00:46:56,633 --> 00:46:57,866
Two questions.

1119
00:46:57,867 --> 00:47:01,233
One, on -- there was a
poll published this week

1120
00:47:01,233 --> 00:47:03,233
by the Chronicle for
Higher Education

1121
00:47:03,233 --> 00:47:08,767
that said only 11 percent of
business leaders believe

1122
00:47:08,767 --> 00:47:11,100
that college students,
college graduates are

1123
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:13,533
prepared to take on jobs.

1124
00:47:13,533 --> 00:47:17,333
The President has talked
about making more students

1125
00:47:17,333 --> 00:47:18,200
college- and career-ready.

1126
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,799
Does he think that
colleges are making

1127
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,734
students career-ready?

1128
00:47:21,734 --> 00:47:22,834
That's the first question.

1129
00:47:23,433 --> 00:47:25,500
Mr. Carney: Well, I
don't know

1130
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:26,867
if he's seen that report.

1131
00:47:26,867 --> 00:47:29,767
But I can tell you that he
and Secretary Duncan are

1132
00:47:29,767 --> 00:47:33,500
very focused on the need
to have opportunities

1133
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:35,400
available to young
Americans

1134
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,633
so that they are getting the education they

1135
00:47:38,633 --> 00:47:43,466
need to fill the jobs and the
good-paying jobs of the future.

1136
00:47:43,467 --> 00:47:48,467
And that is reflected in
the jobs-driven training

1137
00:47:48,467 --> 00:47:51,834
that the Vice President
-- the effort on the

1138
00:47:51,834 --> 00:47:53,834
President's behalf that
the Vice President is

1139
00:47:53,834 --> 00:47:58,500
overseeing, and that we
had a very big meeting

1140
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:01,600
about with leaders of
many, many universities

1141
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,967
and colleges not
that long ago.

1142
00:48:03,533 --> 00:48:08,100
So I think, again, not
knowing the details of the

1143
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:13,667
poll, I think it reflects
a challenge that we face

1144
00:48:13,667 --> 00:48:18,100
as a nation, which is to
make sure that we are

1145
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:20,734
harnessing the great
potential of our people,

1146
00:48:20,734 --> 00:48:23,400
as well as those who come
and study here in our

1147
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,266
excellent universities and
colleges,

1148
00:48:25,266 --> 00:48:28,400
and that we're also providing
opportunities through

1149
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,100
community colleges
and other educational

1150
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:34,967
institutions that ensure
that we're getting --

1151
00:48:34,967 --> 00:48:36,500
our people are getting the
training they need

1152
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,233
for the jobs -- the job
opportunities

1153
00:48:39,233 --> 00:48:40,233
that are there.

1154
00:48:40,467 --> 00:48:42,066
So this is a
broader challenge.

1155
00:48:42,066 --> 00:48:43,533
I know Secretary Duncan
has done a lot of work

1156
00:48:43,533 --> 00:48:46,700
on this subject, but it
does reflect one of the

1157
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:50,799
concerns we have about
improving our education

1158
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,934
system so that young
Americans are getting

1159
00:48:53,934 --> 00:48:56,633
the education and skills they
need to fill

1160
00:48:56,633 --> 00:48:57,633
the jobs of tomorrow.

1161
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,967
The Press: Also, more
than 100,000 people

1162
00:49:00,967 --> 00:49:04,834
made public comment on the
proposed IRS regulations

1163
00:49:04,834 --> 00:49:06,366
for 501(c)(4) groups.

1164
00:49:06,367 --> 00:49:08,600
A lot of those
were negative.

1165
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Some former FEC
commissioners weighed in

1166
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,966
on this, thought that
this was an area the IRS

1167
00:49:15,967 --> 00:49:17,433
shouldn't really get into.

1168
00:49:17,433 --> 00:49:20,433
What is the -- has the
White House really come

1169
00:49:20,433 --> 00:49:23,667
out on these IRS
proposals for 501(c)(4)?

1170
00:49:24,967 --> 00:49:26,967
Mr. Carney: Well, as
you probably remember,

1171
00:49:26,967 --> 00:49:34,133
one of the recommendations by
the inspector general was

1172
00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:36,767
"recommend to IRS chief
counsel and the Department

1173
00:49:36,767 --> 00:49:38,133
of the Treasury the
guidance"

1174
00:49:38,133 --> 00:49:41,000
on how to measure the "primary
activity" of 501(c)(4)

1175
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,867
social welfare
organizations be included

1176
00:49:44,867 --> 00:49:47,367
for consideration in the
Department of the Treasury

1177
00:49:47,367 --> 00:49:49,000
priority guidance plan.

1178
00:49:49,367 --> 00:49:52,967
So that's obviously
a mouthful.

1179
00:49:52,967 --> 00:49:56,767
But the fact is that this
action was recommended by

1180
00:49:56,767 --> 00:50:01,033
the independent inspector
general who had already

1181
00:50:01,033 --> 00:50:04,366
looked into some of the
matters that caused

1182
00:50:04,367 --> 00:50:06,467
all the concern that we saw
last year on these issues.

1183
00:50:06,467 --> 00:50:11,734
So I don't have much
more to say on that.

1184
00:50:11,734 --> 00:50:13,900
I would refer you to the
Treasury Department.

1185
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:16,266
But I can tell you that
beginning in 2010 Treasury

1186
00:50:16,266 --> 00:50:18,500
and the IRS received
requests from members of

1187
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,433
Congress to consider
engaging in the rulemaking

1188
00:50:20,433 --> 00:50:22,333
to clarify the rules
regarding these

1189
00:50:22,333 --> 00:50:24,200
organizations, and as the
Treasury Department has

1190
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,133
said, the rule change does
not restrict any form

1191
00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:28,734
of political speech.

1192
00:50:28,734 --> 00:50:31,200
These regulations do not
favor any individual

1193
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:32,834
or political party or group.

1194
00:50:32,834 --> 00:50:35,100
The regulation applies
to all organizations

1195
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:37,299
regardless of
political affiliation.

1196
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:39,433
But I'm sure IRS would
have, or Treasury would

1197
00:50:39,433 --> 00:50:40,767
have more for you on that.

1198
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,767
The Press: Some of the
opponents of this believe

1199
00:50:43,767 --> 00:50:46,100
it sort of might codify
what we've seen

1200
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:49,700
in 2012, 2010, and they don't --

1201
00:50:51,266 --> 00:50:51,967
Mr. Carney: Yes, I
would point you

1202
00:50:51,967 --> 00:50:58,066
to the fact that the inspector
general recommended the

1203
00:50:58,066 --> 00:51:00,299
approach that we're
talking about here and

1204
00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:01,633
to the statement I just made,

1205
00:51:01,633 --> 00:51:03,332
which reflects what Treasury has
said about it.

1206
00:51:03,333 --> 00:51:04,567
Thanks, everybody.

1207
00:51:04,567 --> 00:51:05,433
The Press: Week ahead.

1208
00:51:05,433 --> 00:51:11,900
Mr. Carney: Oh, yes.

1209
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:13,300
Here's what we have:

1210
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:16,266
On Monday, President Obama
will host Israeli Prime

1211
00:51:16,266 --> 00:51:18,767
Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu

1212
00:51:18,767 --> 00:51:19,799
at the White House.

1213
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,700
The President looks
forward to discussing with

1214
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:23,567
the Prime Minister
progress in

1215
00:51:23,567 --> 00:51:26,533
Israeli-Palestinian
negotiations, developments

1216
00:51:26,533 --> 00:51:29,834
in Iran, and other
regional priorities.

1217
00:51:29,834 --> 00:51:32,265
Prime Minister Netanyahu's
visit is a demonstration

1218
00:51:32,266 --> 00:51:34,333
of the deep and enduring
bonds between

1219
00:51:34,333 --> 00:51:37,333
the United States and Israel,
and our close consultations

1220
00:51:37,333 --> 00:51:38,900
on a range of security issues.

1221
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:39,967
The Press:
New conference?

1222
00:51:39,967 --> 00:51:43,100
Mr. Carney: I
don't have specifics.

1223
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,299
I think they're going to
make statements,

1224
00:51:45,300 --> 00:51:47,800
but I don't have anything
more for you on that.

1225
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:48,867
The Press: Do
you have a time?

1226
00:51:48,867 --> 00:51:49,467
Mr. Carney: I don't
have anything

1227
00:51:49,467 --> 00:51:50,500
more for you on it.

1228
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:51,600
The Press: You
don't have a time?

1229
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Mr. Carney: I don't.

1230
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,600
This is just a
week ahead, guys.

1231
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:54,600
We'll give the
daily schedule.

1232
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,600
(laughter)

1233
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,600
The Press: It's Friday
and we're

1234
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:57,600
talking about Monday.

1235
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:58,600
Mr. Carney: Right.

1236
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,600
I know two days
in between.

1237
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:00,667
I know you don't want to
work on Saturday orSunday,

1238
00:52:00,667 --> 00:52:01,667
but you can probably
open an email.

1239
00:52:01,667 --> 00:52:02,667
(laughter)

1240
00:52:02,667 --> 00:52:07,400
On Tuesday, the President
will hold an event --

1241
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,867
isn't it great when I
get -- on Tuesday,

1242
00:52:09,867 --> 00:52:12,567
the President will hold an
event on the FY2015 budget

1243
00:52:12,567 --> 00:52:15,533
and our plan to expand
opportunity for all,

1244
00:52:15,533 --> 00:52:18,900
Jim, here in Washington, D.C.
In the evening, the

1245
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:21,200
President will attend
a DSCC event

1246
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,265
in the Washington, D.C. area.

1247
00:52:23,266 --> 00:52:25,300
On Wednesday, the
President will travel

1248
00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:26,900
to the Hartford, Connecticut
area

1249
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:28,800
for an event on the minimum wage.

1250
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,000
Following this, he will
travel to Boston

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for two DNC events.

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On Thursday, the President
will hold an event on the

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economy and health care
here in Washington.

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On Friday, the President
and the First Lady will

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travel to the Miami area
for an event on expanding

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opportunity for
the middle class.

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And that is
your week ahead.

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I hope you all have
a terrific weekend.

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I think you're going to
have to bundle

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up, unlike last weekend.

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Thanks.