Talk:Emil Eikner
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A gallery of images for this page is being carefully planned and will be added soon. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 03:57, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Removal of introduction
[edit]A large amount of information was removed from this gallery page without discussion by an editor who seems to be on a personal campaign of some kind against this individual. I am reinstating it. I do not agree that "one or two sentences is enough" here, nor that the Swedish sentence should include that Eikner is "Chairman" but not of what.
This should be discussed before it's so throughly trashed, and if it needs shortening I will be happy to cooperate in doing that. I know this is not Wikipedia, but there are many gallery introductions at Commons that are not as short as the recent edit left us with. Let's find common ground! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:15, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
- Please read Commons:Gallery there is no need to discuss a clear violation of the policy that states
A brief description of the subject (if necessary) Commons is not an encyclopedia. Our main purpose is not to educate readers through text. If they want to read more about a subject, Wikipedia exists solely for that purpose. Commons is multilingual. You may use any language(s) you like. Translations of a gallery's description will most likely be added by others. Keep this in mind when adding any text to a gallery. For most subjects a sentence or two is all that's needed.
--Domdeparis (talk) 06:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- We discuss first, and give neutral editors a chance to opine. We never make any large, drastic changes to an established page w/o discussion, and we do not leave only halves of sentences after us so that we end up with nonsense. Do not revert until others have had a chance to comment. If you do that again, you may be edit warring. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:35, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Once again no need to discuss when it is a clear violation of policy. But I have noted that you do not agree with the policy. What is your justification for having encyclopedic information on this page? --Domdeparis (talk) 14:21, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- As any experienced Commons editor would be likely to know, the policy is not carved in stone, and there is a huge amount of gallery pages that have longer and more enlightening (for Commons) intro's than the very brief one you wish to have here. The problems seems to me to stem from your wanting to add your uploaded movie poster as the only picture for the article about the song Indian Love Call and your reversing twice without discussing my objections that a photo of singers doing the song is more appropriate. Since that happened, it looks to me like you are dissatisfied with any mention on English Wikipedia of one of those two people, this man. If you had removed the link on his name, in that image caption, that would have made more sense to me, since it went here to Commons, which I admit was extraordinary, than what now looks like you're hunting down mentions of this person there and trying to remove just about everything about him - oblitate him even when his name is clearly relevant to a caption or text - in a way that seems unreasonable to me, But these are matters which now will have to take up a lot of our time and effort on that project, sadly. As for here, I will now shorten this gallery intro in a way that I hope you can find acceptable, since you do have a point about its extent. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- The problem is your persistant "wedging" of photos that link to the commons pages that are being used to promote this person his "underground" cabaret and other non-notable persons. You asked for a third opinion on the photo and the reply was "I believe the answer is clear when comparing the two concepts: the films poster is much more appropriate for use in the article. There are more notable covers of the song by more popular artists as demonstrated by the article itself. Additionally, the poster provides more editorial value (EV) for the reader" In an administrator's notice that you opened up about me the comment by the closer as not being a concern for admin contained this phrase "It certainly looks to me like the OP is "wedging" mention of this individual into the encyclopedia anywhere he can. I've removed the picture in question from the article on Batavia as it is non-illustrative of any part of the article". I think these comments are clear enough. --Domdeparis (talk) 14:11, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
- As any experienced Commons editor would be likely to know, the policy is not carved in stone, and there is a huge amount of gallery pages that have longer and more enlightening (for Commons) intro's than the very brief one you wish to have here. The problems seems to me to stem from your wanting to add your uploaded movie poster as the only picture for the article about the song Indian Love Call and your reversing twice without discussing my objections that a photo of singers doing the song is more appropriate. Since that happened, it looks to me like you are dissatisfied with any mention on English Wikipedia of one of those two people, this man. If you had removed the link on his name, in that image caption, that would have made more sense to me, since it went here to Commons, which I admit was extraordinary, than what now looks like you're hunting down mentions of this person there and trying to remove just about everything about him - oblitate him even when his name is clearly relevant to a caption or text - in a way that seems unreasonable to me, But these are matters which now will have to take up a lot of our time and effort on that project, sadly. As for here, I will now shorten this gallery intro in a way that I hope you can find acceptable, since you do have a point about its extent. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
- Once again no need to discuss when it is a clear violation of policy. But I have noted that you do not agree with the policy. What is your justification for having encyclopedic information on this page? --Domdeparis (talk) 14:21, 5 October 2017 (UTC)