File talk:Palast des dalailama.jpg

What an utterly extraordinary image.

Trade cards are fascinating not just for the artistry of their images but for what they reveal to us of matters like our own cultural assumptions which might otherwise remain obscure to us. I'm sure that was part of their initial appeal -- part of why they proved so exceptionally effective at doing things like selling coffee, chocolate, and tobacco -- but far, far more importantly: a part of why they've tended to be saved, and with such care. This particular card is a prime example of that, for me.  :^) :^)

Thank you for sharing. Xeltifon (talk) 01:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

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I have removed twice (here and here) the additions by Popolon that are the fruit of his own assumptions. To be more precise, I have no problem with the right flag being the Qing imperial flag, but what he describes as a Tibetan flag seems to be a mere invention.--6-A04-W96-K38-S41-V38 (talk) 09:25, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

[User:6-A04-W96-K38-S41-V38|6-A04-W96-K38-S41-V38]], if you agree that's a qing dynasty floag, why did you remove this information ? The Qing protectorat on Tibet (1720 – 1912) is well documented and you already. Qing dynasty era ended in 1912, so this picture describe China before 1912, you remove this information too. If the flag at the right is the flag of China, and the picture describe Lhassa, the flag is probably from Tibet. Either Lhassa area, Central Tibet, Whole Tibet, or represent the power ruling the Tibet, but a Tibetan flag for sure. The same way, the publisher depicted Hongkong with only the Qing flag at the top, and Korea with the pre-1905 korean flag. Do you think the flag could be from elsewhere with these informations ?Popolon (talk) 10:26, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely, the flag could be from elsewhere or from nowhere. Your own deductions based on an illustration by a chocolate producer do not make it a historical evidence. Your example from HK is symptomatic: why don't you write that the red disc flag is probably a British flag as HK used to be at that time under British rule? Sorry but I don't understand the logic of your analogy.--6-A04-W96-K38-S41-V38 (talk) 10:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

I have reverted to the previous factual version without assumptions. Comparing this picture with the Hong Kong one would rather prove that the illustrator has inserted flags without consideration of the historical/political context, as Hong Kong was a British colony at that time and was not ruled by the Qing... It is better to stick to a simple and accurate description, and avoid such kind of assumptions and wrong deductions.--6-A04-W96-K38-S41-V38 (talk) 14:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)