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"Attributed"?
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"... the third is attributed to Martin Luther."
"Attributed" makes it sound like it is uncertain if it really is by Martin Luther. Is it? Neither the English nor the German Wikipedia article raise any doubt that he is actually the composer, so why would this file description do so? --87.150.3.176 13:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
![13:35, 5 April 2019 (UTC)](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File_talk:Osterlieder.jpg#c-87.150.3.176-2019-04-05T13:35:00.000Z-"Attributed"?){kind=link}
- The comment has been added by RexxS (2016-02-11), perhaps he will answer himself. --Rabanus Flavus (talk) 13:46, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- The en:Martin Luther article offers no source for the claim that Luther was the author of the tune, and I can't find the mention of Christ lag in Todes Banden in the German article de:Martin Luther. I came to the image from the English article Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4 which states that Luther was the author of the hymn that Bach based his composition on, but that Luther derived the melody from a traditional older tune, en:Victimae paschali laudes, and cites sources. I don't have sufficient expertise in attribution to be certain how best to describe the situation, so I really wouldn't quibble if you think that something like "... the third was written by Martin Luther" would be more accurate. I'll ping User:Gerda Arendt who always offers me her expertise on these sort of issues. --RexxS (talk) 14:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- As far as I kow, we can never be 100% certain that Luther "composed" a melody, deriving much from older ones, and collaborating with Johann Walter. At the time, copyright wasn't even important ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
- The en:Martin Luther article offers no source for the claim that Luther was the author of the tune, and I can't find the mention of Christ lag in Todes Banden in the German article de:Martin Luther. I came to the image from the English article Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4 which states that Luther was the author of the hymn that Bach based his composition on, but that Luther derived the melody from a traditional older tune, en:Victimae paschali laudes, and cites sources. I don't have sufficient expertise in attribution to be certain how best to describe the situation, so I really wouldn't quibble if you think that something like "... the third was written by Martin Luther" would be more accurate. I'll ping User:Gerda Arendt who always offers me her expertise on these sort of issues. --RexxS (talk) 14:27, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
