File talk:Istrorumeni aree 2.jpg

Disputed

The image looks very much like a scan of a printed map. The uploader is most probably not the actual author and as such he cannot offer the image under a free licence. I'm afraid we'll have to delete the image, despite its being quite useful. --AdiJapan 03:27, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Adijapan, I have taken an old map of Istria (Kingdom of Italy) of 1940 (without copyrights) and corrected with a green marker following the precise data of Istrorumenian populations from different books. I have photocopied it and transferred in my "Pictures" files of my computer where I have written on it and cropped with "Microsoft Picture it/ Express 7.0".

As you can see, all is my personal work on an old map from an italian school book of 66 years ago (and so without copyrights).

Bruno. --Brunodambrosio 06:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

In other countries the copyright extends say 70 years from the author's death (not from the publication date). Is it different in Italy? You should also be aware that if the book doesn't say anything about copyright it doesn't mean it is not protected. I leave it up to you to check the copyright law in your part of the world. --AdiJapan 13:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Adijapan, thank you for your "cheers" in the Romanian wikipedia. I am learning Romanian, a neolatin language that I like very much. I hope to be able to write something soon in your language. Anyway, I hope to solve soon the "disputed" map problem. The old map "disputed" is from an elementary school book edited by the "Giovani Balilla", a youth fascist organization of the Kingdom of Italy's government in 1940. In Italy all the government works are copyrighted for twenty years only (with the exception of the photographic works, that follow the 70 years rule of the EU). I have checked the commons legal section and I have found that: ..."The Italian Government, as rights holder to the copyright, has the right to decide how long its copyright will last. As the law making authority it also has the power to give those decisions the force of law. The Italian Government has decided that works it holds the copyright in will have protection for 20 years only. Other EU governments have gone in separate directions....". I have read an interesting discussion on "Template:PD-ItalyGov" of commons/license tags, and I have see a positive conclusion of the disputed matter. Sincerely,Bruno. --Brunodambrosio 20:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Adijapan, this is what is written in "Commons:Licensing" about "Country-specific laws:Italy" : "Italy.In compliance to Italian copyright law term of copyright expires according to law of 22 April 1941 n. 633, revised by the law of 22 May 2004, n. 128 article 87 and article 92, all non artistic photographs enter the public domain after 20 years counted from the beginning of the following calendar year (ie. as of 2006, prior to the 1st of January, 1986) after they were first published, this rule is valid also for italian film's screenshot. Artistic photographs enter in the public domain after 70 years." There is no copyright in Italy for any map done before WWII. Sincerely, Bruno. --Brunodambrosio 16:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I removed the "disputed" template. Sorry for all the trouble and thanks for the explanations. Cheers. AdiJapan 16:35, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Adijapan. You are very kind. Ciao. --Brunodambrosio 22:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)