File talk:Index pages of "Berättelser ur svenska historien" by Carl Georg Starbäck 1860.jpg

The categorization of this image as a Ristesson donation and history image (see my user page) is desired by the donor. We would appreciate if the categories are not changed in that regard. EmilEikS (talk) 23:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

This image was in the public domain, and the copyright was not donated by Ristesson. Whoever that is, Ristesson does not have anything to do with this photograph. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:28, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Mr Kuiper is pretending, for some reason, that he does not know what Ristesson is, though he so kindly helped us get started in October of 2008, offered to design and designed our template (including the text which mentions Ristesson) and acquired our trust then (see my user page) to continue being somewhat consistent. This is not consistent with his previous helpful attitude, does nothing to enhance the value here to Wikimedia Commons and could only serve to alienate donors who heretofore have trusted in Mr. Kuiper. A mystery to me and to Southerly Clubs, in other words. This image was acquired in (very rare) print, prepared for donation and donated to Commons by the Southerly Clubs, Ristesson Ent. Division. We have never claimed to have had a copyright to it. That must be an intentional misrepresentation, as the inference lacks any and all relationship to matters factual. We would appreciate not to have any futher interference in its categorization, as per my first entry above. It would make us feel confident about continuing to contribute rare and valuable images from the Ristesson library. EmilEikS (talk) 14:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

These are just two pages from an old book, which is neither rare nor valuable, and actually avaible on line, but EmilEiks had copied the above from File talk:Opening Riksdag 1898.jpg - and in principle it is the same issue. The categories do not have anything to do with the book. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Not the same book at all on your link Mr K. Our donation is a color scan of a rare book, in Ristesson ownership with 1860's type, which is not readily available. Please respect our wishes as above. EmilEikS (talk) 19:34, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

This book is very rare, from 1860, which the obsolete Swedish font type, language and layout of the index are an unusually fine example of. It is certainly not very nice of Mr Kuiper to disparage the value of the maintenance, effort, expense and care taken to provide WM Commons with this type of rare color images of old and unaccessible material from the private Ristesson library. We do not understand why he has begun behaving like this for the last few days after having been so appreciative and helpful before, since October of last year. He has also done destructive editing now, along these lines, to articles at Swedish WP where we have added a few of these images, with far-fetched arguments that seem mostly to be utterances of personal bad faith and ill will. The only thing I can imagine, though I hardly want to, is that a recently discovered difference in politics (peceived more by him that by me in his vehement condemnation of a right-wing historian I have quoted), has led to this strange development which we find quite unsettling and repulsive. EmilEikS (talk) 01:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)